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Old 06-19-2007, 08:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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No offense taken! Would you agree that experiencing the concept of Heaven would be beneficial? Then you can understand the benefits of expanding awareness. What Jesus brought us was a representation of the infinite love of All-That-Is that we might follow His loving example. In following His example by loving, we enter the kingdom of God: green-ray, fourth density consciousness.
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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No offense taken! Would you agree that experiencing the concept of Heaven would be beneficial? Then you can understand the benefits of expanding awareness. What Jesus brought us was a representation of the infinite love of All-That-Is that we might follow His loving example. In following His example by loving, we enter the kingdom of God: green-ray, fourth density consciousness.
Yea, I imagine experiencing heaven would be an enjoyable experience but I'm left with some questions.

So all this is basically about changing your own subjective experience?

Does radically altering your own perception effect your ability to interact with others who havn't made that change in themselves?

Doesn't loving all the time make it difficult to work and stuff?

Are you certain that mushrooms and weed are a legitimate and safe means of altering your perception? Don't you fear that they may not be giving you a an accurate representation of objective reality?
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:37 AM   #23 (permalink)
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So all this is basically about changing your own subjective experience?
Not changing, but integrating. You're a third density human being, and you've had a lot of experiences in this life. Through these experiences, you're not changing from one experience to the next, but integrating all experiences into a complete whole composed of separate parts. When you remember experiences you're really recreating them in the present.

What this process is can be explained as widening your avenues of memory. Like your view is ever expanded as you make your way up a mountain, your awareness of infinity is expanded as you integrate more and more aspects.

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Does radically altering your own perception effect your ability to interact with others who havn't made that change in themselves?
Yes and no. Take you and I for example. We are each representative of an aspect of our particular expression of infinity. We are interacting through an individual life which is a fragment of our respective being. When our life fragments are integrated, our consciousness expands to incorporate these several lives. So at this level of awareness, we could not interact as "verklingen" and "Praise Jah," but we would interact as the expressions of infinity which "verklingen" and "Praise Jah" respectively represent in fragmented form.

So we could only interact like this again if we decided to contract and "lower" our awareness back to where it is now. That's really all this moment and this exchange is: a memory our Higher Self is recreating to experience.

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Doesn't loving all the time make it difficult to work and stuff?
Not at all! When everyone is engaged in following their excitement and joy, "loving all the time" follows as a matter of course. When we don't "love all the time" we experience just the kind of reality we are experiencing presently.

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Are you certain that mushrooms and weed are a legitimate and safe means of altering your perception? Don't you fear that they may not be giving you a an accurate representation of objective reality?
I'm pretty sure the proof is in the pudding, and if revelations revealed to me through the use of psychedelic drugs stand up to the test of my experiences while not on them it's reasonable to suspect that they are actually meaningful: especially if those revelations help enhance my quality of life. Wouldn't you say?
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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What this scheme really represents is the unfolding of awareness. Awareness began with second density plants and animals. Before this density (first density: matter) there is not awareness, only reaction to physical laws. With the inauguration of awareness comes the concept of self and the urge to maintain the self: the urge to engage in self-service. The mechanism which drives this urge is a sense of excitement. Mating, defending territory, hunting, etc. are acts of self-service from which the second density creature derives excitement.

As an awareness expands to incorporate third density it has one hand in the pocket of higher density, sympathetic awareness while keeping the other hand in the pocket of second density self-service. The mode by which one or the other is enforced is through the newly acquired capacity for thought the being has achieved. Here, too, excitement plays a key role in pointing the awareness toward incorporation of separate awarenesses through love and acceptance. When the being seeks incorporation it experiences excitement. When it seeks to serve itself and thus forgoes incorporation, it experiences trouble. The being has realized the self and it now must realize other selves to continue the process of integration by chasing its excitement.

Again, this is not a progressive, linear process. All awarenesses on all levels are already integrated in the vast infinity of All-That-Is. This is only the mode by which All-That-Is seeks knowledge and experience of Itself: by fragmenting into individual awarenesses and reconstructing the whole awareness through integration. The process is the result, the journey is the goal.

Follow your excitement and don't dwell on perceptions of lower densities. Does a dog who starts to slip down a cliff just lay idly, awaiting its doom as an un-aware lump of rock would? No, his is a condition meant for self-service and his excitement will lead him to save his life. Neither should we seek the self-service of animals under a condition meant for incorporating awarenesses through service to others.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:21 PM   #26 (permalink)
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So all this is basically about changing your own subjective experience? ?
What you view as "reality" is a subjective experience. So instead of seeing it the way you're choosing to, try seeing it as changing reality. Perhaps that will make it less meaningless for you?

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Does radically altering your own perception effect your ability to interact with others who havn't made that change in themselves?
When you know sports trivia and your friend doesn't...does it effect your ability to interact with them? Yes and no. On the one hand (for me at least) it gets a little frustrating when talking to some people. My father is a good example of this. When I bring up a topic that is even remotely metaphysical, it's like his brain doesn't function. He's based soley in materialism. This is not a negative quality in the abstract, mind you, but when I am seeking out cooperation and communication, it has that effect on me.

In actuality, there are no "others" there is only myself. This way of "seeing" is hard to keep up 24/7 (again, at least for me), because I'm constantly drawn back into my conditioned perceptions of reality. It's like watching a movie and forgetting you're watching one.

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Doesn't loving all the time make it difficult to work and stuff?
Fuck work.

I suggest loving 'all the time.' And whatever "work" comes out of that is what you should have been doing in the first place.

Mind you, loving is not a stagnant term. It's not sitting there smiling all day. Loving can include a love of the unknown. A love of drama. A love of conflict. Etc. I think what you see in most people who explore this type of thinking is that eventually you come to recognize: love is love is love. And, as such, people grow to love love itself. And by loving love itself, you love everything...which probably makes you smile all day .

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Are you certain that mushrooms and weed are a legitimate and safe means of altering your perception? Don't you fear that they may not be giving you a an accurate representation of objective reality?
Safety is death. If the manifestation of this government has taught me anything, it's that 1) there is no "safe" and 2) we already ARE safe.

Legitimate? I am manifested on this planet. Pot and mushrooms are just as "legitimate" as I am. I don't know what you believe, but if your "God" (whatever that word means for you) created plants that would destroy your reality...something that took immense effort to create in the first place...I find that lame.

Objective reality is synonymous with collective reality. It was OBJECTIVE REALITY that the world was flat. It was OBJECTIVE reality that magic wizards were killing dragons. It was OBJECTIVE reality that the king of Egypt was a demi-god.

And in 100 years, I'm positive someone will be including "It was OBJECTIVE REALITY that gravity was an external force" and "It was OBJECTIVE REALITY that there was a seperation between the external world and the internal one."

Pot and mushrooms are a tool to open up your mind. If you think of your mind as a gift box...drugs open up the back panel, not the one you'd expect (the top). Which some people might go "you opened that box wrong. You're supposed to open it from the top, not the back." To which I'd reply: it's a box. I will open it how I want to. And your attempt to control my reality is an act of aggression.

There is nothing to fear but your own beliefs. Including death.
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Collective = Objective....

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I don't know if I've stressed this in this way before but I wanted to clarify something about the concepts of densities/color rays, and how they relate to each other. Each density exists simultaneously, and the consciousnesses we each fragmentally represent, in all our fragmented forms, exist simultaneously within all densities. So even as The One is All and All are The One simultaneously, we are expressed through each density simultaneously.

Light depends on each band of the spectrum to exist, and Light is simultaneously expressed by AND through each band simultaneously.
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^ Word, I've never seen a half of a rainbow. It's always expressed in it's collective entirety.
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