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Old 06-18-2007, 09:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I had a revelation

I ate some mushrooms Saturday night, but this isn't a trip report. That might be for another day. I just wanted to relate some realizations I had and what conclusions they're leading me to.

I realized that the path of love my wife Sara and I are on is ancient and enduring. I also realized that our personal expression of this love through the eons is an individual, fragmented representation of a complimenting polarity: that the love we and all beings share is the same energy and we and all our individual relations are all representative of that energy.

Bisexual reproduction is an extension of the orange-ray, second density energy available to our yellow-ray, third density existence. Our experience of it can be drawn up from the orange-ray, self-serving perception of sex or be drawn down from the green-ray, service-to-others perception. I realized that all our strife and sorrow is due to the enforcement of an orange-ray perception of sex (i.e. an orange-ray expression of love energy) upon our yellow-ray experience of sex. This causes our perception to be out of alignment with our, for lack of a better term, highest joy (our ascent to green-ray energy expression) and as a result we experience the antithesis of our highest joy by projecting lower density perception upon higher density experience.

I don't mean this strictly in terms of sex, but in all forms of self-service. For animals, their every endeavor is primarily self-serving. When we project this self-serving expression of love (orange-ray love energy) upon what is a burgeoning, service-to-others expression of love (yellow-ray love energy) we encounter problems because we are not aligned with our vibrational density. Acting toward orange-ray self-service thus has the effect of bringing Hell up to us while acting toward green-ray service to others draws Heaven down to us.

Dolphins figured strongly in my trip, and I feel I came to understand what they represent (for me, at least). Dolphins are special in that they are second density creatures which have sex for mutual pleasure. As sex represents an expression of love, I saw the sex dolphins have for pleasure as representing the ability to LOVE for pleasure and get true pleasure from true love: the ability to find REAL, enduring pleasure and joy (as opposed to the "fake" pleasure we experience by enforcing perceptions which are misaligned with our true excitement) in expressing love.

We are yellow-ray, third density beings, and we find our sorrow in experiencing yellow-ray energy expressions through lower, orange-ray perceptions. Conversely, we find joy and excitement in experiencing our yellow-ray energy expressions through higher, green-ray perceptions. This existence, this life, can be considered a kind of gateway. So as we teeter between these two extremes, take care in noticing your perceptions and how they affect you. Criticize them with diligence, and see whether they actually lead you toward your joy and excitement or you are only projecting excitement upon them because you do not really want to walk through.

I hope someone finds this as deeply inspiring as I did. I'm still mulling over some things I encountered that night. . . powerful stuff for sure.
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i totally dont understand the whole color scheme
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Densities, represented by the colors of the rainbow.

First density (red) is the density of matter and action. Second density (orange) is the density of awareness and emotion. Third density (yellow) is the density of intelligence and thought. Fourth density (green) is the density of love (Age of Aquarius et al.)

As third density yellow-ray energy, we are fixed (with the ability of thought to allow for discernment) between expressing love as a self-service and love as a service to others.
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Densities, represented by the colors of the rainbow.

First density (red) is the density of matter and action. Second density (orange) is the density of awareness and emotion. Third density (yellow) is the density of intelligence and thought. Fourth density (green) is the density of love (Age of Aquarius et al.)

As third density yellow-ray energy, we are fixed (with the ability of thought to allow for discernment) between expressing love as a self-service and love as a service to others.
Now what does this have to do with real life?
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Blue?

Violet?

White?

You're missing half the spectrum man...
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This is a fairly accurate representation of a night on shrooms, click on the link that says "3D Fireworks Glasses Video!" A small window will pop up and there you go. Enjoy.
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Blue?

Violet?

White?

You're missing half the spectrum man...
blue is the representation of communication, as it's corresponding chakra is located in the larynx.

Violet is the representation of self-awareness/third eye. It's located at the center of the forehead.

White is the representation of transcendental awareness/crown chakra. It's located above the head (although when I had my moment of clarity last year, my head "opened" so I'm inclined to think it's actually at the very tip of our head.).


The reason why Verk left these out, in my opinion, is because these don't deal with physicality but with mentality.

Green (heart), is the center point for the chakras. It's the one in the middle seperating the "higher" vibrations with the "lower" ones. What this refers to is that 1/2 of them deal with experience. The other half deal with perception and interaction.


Praise Jah, it has a lot to do with life if you'd take the time to learn about it instead of simply dismissing it.

Waves, you should look into this stuff. It's a very accessable construct for understanding and exploration of the self.


Verk, before I did ANY research on the subject: after my moment of clarity I wrote a play. In it the character chooses "green" over "red."
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Blue?

Violet?

White?

You're missing half the spectrum man...
We're not there yet. White is the beginning and and.

As far as real life, its just another way to describe different levels of actions and thoughts.

For example:

Colors of Thinking in Spiral Dynamics

Amazon.com: Spiral Dynamics: Mastering Values, Leadership and Change: Books: Don Edward Beck,Christopher Cowan

But Verk is actually referring to more Chakra based colors/energy centers rather than social dynamic and collective genes...the colors that actually produce the particular genes that influence us that we in turn influence back. Using Verk's stated "green ray energy" means acting from the energy center that houses the Heart and empathy, the green chakra. Mankind's next logical step after establishing a collective would be to act on these energies, since thats the only viable way for Mankind to flourish.

Assuming you feel we're going to go that direction in the first place...but I think we're seeing evidence of it each day that passes. Or at least, thats what I choose to see...but that's the same thing. bongsmilie

Edit -I'm stony...so this was disjointed. And JcP, great thoughts.
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man reading this post is like reading a great book in a language you dont understand...you know the substance is there but its all so foreign.

any good links i can eat up?

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man reading this post is like reading a great book in a language you dont understand...you know the substance is there but its all so foreign.

any good links i can eat up?

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Pretty sure you have but have you read RA?

Ra-section 1

This, as far as I know, is what Verk is referring to.
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Chakra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



actually not a bad entry.
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From wiki:

This is pretty cool...

Red corresponds to instinct, that's the area we use for our most primal acts.

Orange is creativity, that's where we create life.

Yellow is assimilation and empathy, that's where we digest and convert energy and get our "gut feelings."

Green is about love, sharing, balance ( the essence of life), that's where we circulate blood and is the giver of life to all the other body parts.

Blue is about vision, awareness and time, that's where we dream and modulate our biological clock.

Purple is about consciousness, that's above our body, just as we are more than our bodies.
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blue is the representation of communication, as it's corresponding chakra is located in the larynx.

Violet is the representation of self-awareness/third eye. It's located at the center of the forehead.

White is the representation of transcendental awareness/crown chakra. It's located above the head (although when I had my moment of clarity last year, my head "opened" so I'm inclined to think it's actually at the very tip of our head.).


The reason why Verk left these out, in my opinion, is because these don't deal with physicality but with mentality.

Green (heart), is the center point for the chakras. It's the one in the middle seperating the "higher" vibrations with the "lower" ones. What this refers to is that 1/2 of them deal with experience. The other half deal with perception and interaction.


Praise Jah, it has a lot to do with life if you'd take the time to learn about it instead of simply dismissing it.

Waves, you should look into this stuff. It's a very accessable construct for understanding and exploration of the self.


Verk, before I did ANY research on the subject: after my moment of clarity I wrote a play. In it the character chooses "green" over "red."
JcP, this post so directly resonates with my thinking that it sent shivers down my spine. Another interesting note about encountering this subject ignorantly would be the time I took mdma with my wife and mom. As we were listening to music and talking, my mom all of a sudden blurted out "there's something about green, I think it's important." Now what's interesting about this is when I was a Hare Krishna I had a guru do my horoscope. After studying it for a while he asked me if my mom was very spiritual. I didn't know her at the time (my parents divorced and my dad kept her away from us, we only reunited very recently) but I can now see that, IMO, that guy knew his shit.

And Waves, buddy! I'm sorry for using such cryptic language, I thought you had familiarized yourself with RA in the past. Forgive my assumption. This order of densities/frequencies/color-rays/etc. is only a scheme of relating levels of awareness or integration: like the steps of a pyramid. When Bashar speaks of following your excitement, he is reaching beyond this scheme to relate to our condition more directly and avoid the exact confusion I created with my terms. Because when you're following your joy and excitement, you are integrating and cooperating; accepting, loving, and cherishing the aspects of infinity of which you become aware.

But keep in mind, integration is not a progressive process. You exist in a timeless, infinite eternity. All your experience is based on the expansion and contraction of your awareness of that timeless, infinite eternity: there is no progression from "lesser" to "greater" because the lower densities of awareness and experience exist just the same, though individually fragmented, within the higher densities. The only difference between experiencing lower and higher densities is the level of integration and awareness the vibrational frequency of the density allows.

For example, think of yourself as a lone musician recording a song that requires three instruments and vocals. To compile the song, you have to record the track for each instrument separately and then lay the tracks together. The final result is a single frequency which represents the frequencies of all the instruments. Yet each individual instrumental frequency still exists just the same as it did before, its just that the higher vibrational frequency of the instruments all laid together gives us a wider awareness of the musical fragments.

It's just like when you put together a 3000-piece puzzle there are still 3000 pieces, but the integration of them makes us aware of a single whole. And even when the puzzle is taken apart the single whole still exists. It's just that our awareness of the puzzle doesn't let us see that until we've integrated its parts.

That's all this stuff is. Hope I did a better job explaining it this time.
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But Verk is actually referring to more Chakra based colors/energy centers rather than social dynamic and collective genes...the colors that actually produce the particular genes that influence us that we in turn influence back. Using Verk's stated "green ray energy" means acting from the energy center that houses the Heart and empathy, the green chakra. Mankind's next logical step after establishing a collective would be to act on these energies, since thats the only viable way for Mankind to flourish.

Assuming you feel we're going to go that direction in the first place...but I think we're seeing evidence of it each day that passes. Or at least, thats what I choose to see...but that's the same thing. bongsmilie
Right on, Ego! Thanks again for introducing me to the RA material, I'm integrating it more and more as I go along.

And as for whether we're going that direction. . . the result of that direction already exists . The only question is whether you would rather remain aware only of this density or if you want to step through to the next by integrating your awareness with other awarenesses through love. "You" will still be "here" even when your awareness expands to incorporate higher vibrations of consciousness, you will just be aware of much more than what this particular fragment of your being represents.

We're here as a support for the higher density consciousness which flows through us, like how each level in a pyramid supports those above it. So the pyramid of our consciousness is already built, we're just expanding our awareness to incorporate more of it.

We're already there!
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Now what does this have to do with real life?
What does it not have to do with real life?

An expanded awareness is just the thing for you, pal.
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blue is the representation of communication, as it's corresponding chakra is located in the larynx.

Violet is the representation of self-awareness/third eye. It's located at the center of the forehead.

White is the representation of transcendental awareness/crown chakra. It's located above the head (although when I had my moment of clarity last year, my head "opened" so I'm inclined to think it's actually at the very tip of our head.).


The reason why Verk left these out, in my opinion, is because these don't deal with physicality but with mentality.

Green (heart), is the center point for the chakras. It's the one in the middle seperating the "higher" vibrations with the "lower" ones. What this refers to is that 1/2 of them deal with experience. The other half deal with perception and interaction.


Praise Jah, it has a lot to do with life if you'd take the time to learn about it instead of simply dismissing it.

Waves, you should look into this stuff. It's a very accessable construct for understanding and exploration of the self.


Verk, before I did ANY research on the subject: after my moment of clarity I wrote a play. In it the character chooses "green" over "red."
How will any of this make me a better person/student/athlete/employee or whatever? What kind of effect does knowing this shit have on daily interactions and activities?
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How will any of this make me a better person/student/athlete/employee or whatever? What kind of effect does knowing this shit have on daily interactions and activities?
If your name will help me understand your religious sentiment, Babylon represents orange-ray service, to self mentality.

Heaven represents green-ray, service to others mentality. Love thy neighbor and all that jazz. Does that help?
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What does it not have to do with real life?

An expanded awareness is just the thing for you, pal.

Elaborate in depth on exactly what you mean by expanding awareness and on what the benefits of doing so are. Please include examples and shit. By examples I don't mean ultimately meaningless abstract metaphors and crap. I mean examples of where this shit comes into play in daily living. How can I better myself though knowledge of this stuff?

Also please don't take offense to this, I'm just trying to get a grip on exactly what you guys are talking about.
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If your name will help me understand your religious sentiment, Babylon represents orange-ray service, to self mentality.
Sorry man the name is just a random name. I'm a weed smoker. bongsmilie
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