Giulliani chairman arrested on cocaine charges

SublimeStylez · 07-11-2007, 09:17 AM

South Carolina treasurer indicted on cocaine charges - CNN.com

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COLUMBIA, South Carolina (AP) -- South Carolina Treasurer Thomas Ravenel, a former real estate developer who became a rising political star after his election last year, was indicted Tuesday on federal cocaine charges.

Ravenel is also the state chairman for former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign.

Ravenel has stepped down from his volunteer responsibilities with the campaign, according to a statement released by Mark Campbell, Giuliani's political director.

Campbell said the campaign has no information about the accusations pending against Ravenel.

The millionaire is accused of buying less than 500 grams of the drug to share with other people in late 2005, U.S. Attorney Reggie Lloyd said.

Ravenel, 44, is charged with distribution of cocaine, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.

The investigation into Ravenel arose from a drug case last year in Charleston, Lloyd said.

State Law Enforcement Division Chief Robert Stewart said his agents were aware of the allegations before Ravenel was elected in November, but they didn't have enough information to pursue criminal charges. The case was turned over to the FBI in April.

"The investigation is just beginning," the federal prosecutor said.

The man accused of selling Ravenel the drug, Michael L. Miller, is in custody on the same charge.

Ravenel will be allowed to turn himself in, authorities said. The treasurer's office referred all questions to Ravenel's lawyer Joel Collins, who did not return a message left at his office.

Gov. Mark Sanford suspended Ravenel immediately based on the serious nature of the charge. The governor said he would name an interim treasurer soon.

"These are obviously very serious allegations that we're constitutionally bound to act upon, and they'll ultimately be decided by the courts." Sanford said in a statement.

Ravenel started his political career in 2004, funding his own campaign for a U.S. Senate seat. He finished a close third in the Republican primary.

Ravenel was founder of the Ravenel Development Corp., a commercial real estate development company. His father, Arthur Ravenel Jr., was a powerful politician from Charleston who served eight years in the U.S. House and is a former state representative and state senator.

07-11-2007, 10:26 AM

why the hell did he need 500 grams of cocaine, isnt like 1 gram a lot? (for personal use)

K10 · 07-11-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by j-wonder

why the hell did he need 500 grams of cocaine, isnt like 1 gram a lot? (for personal use)

1 gram is not a lot.

The article never specifies the amount.....it just says less than 500g

07-11-2007, 10:37 AM

im not in the know but i heard that 1 gram is usually more than enough for a nights worth of personal use.

and if he was charged with possession of like 20 g they would have said less than 25g or somethign dont u think?

anyway i dunno, u gotta be somewhat stupid to walk around with 20 oz of coke.

20oz coke

Jimmy Coonan · 07-11-2007, 07:51 PM

^^^
Yeah, if he had 20 ounces they definitely would've specified. That's more than half a key, nobody except a dealer would have that much.

A gram's more than enough for a night for anybody who's not a fiend, but people who do it a lot often do more. I've seen people do a gram in a line and want more half an hour later.

Hopefully he can get it pled down. People who get convicted of distribution almost invariably go to prison for it.

I always wondered why Giuliani's so moody.

John Smith · 07-13-2007, 07:50 PM

i'll bet guys like him like to stock up for a while. why would a guy who could probably afford all the coke he ever wanted, buy a gram or two a time?

Jimmy Coonan · 07-14-2007, 12:25 PM

^^^
Maybe, but most guys who deal in weight won't sell to just anybody. He's a high-profile figure with a lot to lose, and he isn't a dealer himself most likely, just a guy with a coke habit. Prime snitch material in other words. Given the penalties that attach to selling large amounts of yay, I imagine a lot of dealers wouldn't want to sell to him.

Then again, having a politician in your pocket probably has its benefits.

Prophet Saddam · 07-14-2007, 12:48 PM

Oh, Rudy!

I'm secretly hoping that he gets the nod, because he'll be too easy to knock down.

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Giuliani has been the subject of numerous controversies, involving both his professional and personal lives.

Regarding his person life, some claim that he knew his first wife was his second cousin all along, and simply used that as an excuse for annulling the marriage.[100] Another hot topic is that Giuliani and Alan Placa, an alleged pedophile priest, reportedly have been close friends since childhood, which upsets some people. Some also wonder whether or not Giuliani received gifts, such as tickets, souvenirs, and championship rings, from the New York Yankees baseball team that violated a city ordinance.

He is also criticized for allegedly attempting to restrict free speech, and 35 successful lawsuits were brought against his administration for blocking it. Some of his lobbying efforts and promotions of individuals are also questioned, including lobbying on behalf of Citgo] and the makers of Oxycontin and promoting both Bernard Kerik and Russell Harding. His business deals are also questioned, alleging that Giuliani Partners accepted fees from penny stock firms, made alliances that have gone nowhere and formed pacts with businesses and individuals that have come under scrutiny by regulators and law enforcement officers.

Giuliani has had two notable conflicts involving the media. Since the News Corporation, the parent company of Fox News, is a client of Giuliani, some began to question Fox's co-sponsorship of the May 15 2007 Republican debate. Also, when Parkinson's patient John Hynes called Giuliani's weekly radio show to complain about being cut off from Medicaid, said offensive things to Guiliani, and the major responded with equally harsh words, which upset some people.

Rudy Giuliani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**AlteredStateGrl** · 07-14-2007, 12:54 PM

It would make sense that he would buy so much of it, to keep from having to repeatedly having to buy it again soon. Buy alot now, have a good stash, and it keeps you from having to risk buying again and again in the recent future.

07-11-2007, 10:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
j-wonder Guest Posts: n/a	im not in the know but i heard that 1 gram is usually more than enough for a nights worth of personal use. and if he was charged with possession of like 20 g they would have said less than 25g or somethign dont u think? anyway i dunno, u gotta be somewhat stupid to walk around with 20 oz of coke. 20oz coke Attached Images Last edited by j-wonder; 07-11-2007 at 10:39 AM.

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John Smith Old School Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,900 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i'll bet guys like him like to stock up for a while. why would a guy who could probably afford all the coke he ever wanted, buy a gram or two a time? __________________ "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."

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AlteredStateGrl (òÓ,)_\,,/ Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 10,426 Thanks: 2,181 Thanked 1,823 Times in 1,115 Posts	It would make sense that he would buy so much of it, to keep from having to repeatedly having to buy it again soon. Buy alot now, have a good stash, and it keeps you from having to risk buying again and again in the recent future. __________________ The sweetest kittens have the sharpest claws.

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