Originally Posted by Maturin

Actually, the mods can't see any of these things. That ability was removed long ago. The admins might be able to; not sure really.

Also, lay off the personal attacks, people. This thread is getting too snarky for its own good.

Finally, I'll also say that Sofisticated is someone's alt. Not LPWY's, but someone's. In the first 18 months he/she posted a total of 4 times, and now this sudden flurry of posts in the past week, with a knowing and familiar attitude of how the place works.......dead givaway.

Originally Posted by Sofisticated

Don't put words in my mouth, you indoctrinated moron..

Originally Posted by Snownuts

hmmm... follow your own advice much?

Originally Posted by Snownuts

um maybe because this thread is about JOHN MCCAIN WINNING THE PRESIDENCY.,

telling me im a snake and other ad hominem attacks havent semed to dry up the support for mccain, so my question is, when will your ineffective technique change or will u be calling me a snake until 2012 and then hope someone listens along the way...?

its amazing how fast people with no point resort to personal attacks, or how people with absurd points get all angry when people look at them like their crazy as i do to u now.

Originally Posted by Snownuts

come on man, u gotta look at the whole conversation before you pass judgement on me. at least i would expect someone like u to terry, not many of the idiots on here who just want to slaughter me and ignore my points.

u really think ron paul is ingenuous? OR that hes consistant? or that he 'sticks to his values' - lol come on, how come all of a sudden hes the champion of the constitution this election cycle? i dont seem to have heard a peep out him ever before now, so when compared to someone like mccain who has been in the public spotlight for 40 years of course if u dont know as much about the positions he takes u can say he is more consistant.

is barack consistent or just inexperienced?

Originally Posted by Terry

but it seems obvious to me Paul's the only person running who doesn't say things for his own political gain, but says things because he believes it. .

Originally Posted by Snownuts

mccain has said twofold.

1. hes been for the surge from the very beginning, in early 2007 this caused his national poll numbers to be in the low single digits....he maintained that this was the right way to go if america had any hope of "making lemonade out of lemons". (insert other metaphor if this doesnt suit you). he now is the champion of a VINDICATED position as evidenced by the democrats no longer speaking of withdrawing all troops by such and such a date- John Edwards called them both on it- THEY BOTH (HIL AND OB) SAID THEY WOULD KEEP TROOPS THEIR TO PROTECT OUR ASSETS (our assets arent going to gone in 5 years, ergo by their own logic, neither will all the troops...) McCain agreed with the surge to the deteriment of his poll numbers (populariy) for nearly a year before people began to conclude that his forsight may well have snatched victory from the jaws of defeat..... how is that not speaking your mind when u know whats right even if it costs u politically?

2. he was against many of the far -right wing things, (immigration reform, campaign finance lack of reform, etc) this is at a time when the gop controlled both houses and hawkish neo conservatives ran the show- Mccain took a line AGAINST those people, and again, took political flack for it....and if he doesnt win now, it will be because he took so much flack from the hard right wing that they shot themselves in the foot.....

3. Mccain is the oldest candidate, he obviously is the only one to have been in combat, the only one (of any president in history) to have been a PRISONER OF WAR for 7 YEARS.....the only one with any claim that this win is for something other than his/her big fucking ego...


..... so there is some substance for ya terry (hopefully ootfs alt will respond to substance as well but i doubt it).... do u really think mccain has said what is politically convenient in the past? I think hes the most selfless candidate by objective measures (1-3 above) of any candidate and id challenge someone to show me otherwise with as much substance as ive shown here...

Originally Posted by Snownuts

Furthermore, if you would look up the words "syntax" and "tone" as I suggested, you may be able to differentiate myself and some others.

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clearly, but u go back and forth.... sometimes ur pretty intelligent souding, others it seems like ur trying to emulate that professor of lizard aliens at the univ. of toronto letsplayyourway

Originally Posted by Snownuts

...dude i have never seen another yahookan quote the dictionary other than OOTF,letsplayyourway ,psyopsking,sofistic ated.


you also seem to do similar things to him- aka say that "your opinion" is facts, and "your opinion" is objective. furthermore, your assertions , despire their forcefulness, do not bear any relation to the fact that mccain is beating ron paul by about 6 to 1 in the polls. other than to conclude that other people are forming their opinions based on "lies" but your opinions are apparently based on "objective facts" which u cant direct us towards,. other than posting the definition for "fact" out of the dictionary, and hurling further insults.


coincidence? maybe but if all your doing is copying his idiotry then its not worth my time to fight 2 ootfs....

ps u dont seem to see how the media is totally shitting on mccain this cycle? if anything this proves how INEFFECTIVE the media is at controlling opinions....fox news has been shoving romney down peoples throats for 2 weeks now, and NO ONE is biting. not even your average fox news viewer, which really says something about how pathetic their attempt to mold opinion in one way is.

Originally Posted by Snownuts

3. Mccain is the oldest candidate, he obviously is the only one to have been in combat, the only one (of any president in history) to have been a PRISONER OF WAR for 7 YEARS.....the only one with any claim that this win is for something other than his/her big fucking ego...

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Military service and medical career

Paul considered becoming a Lutheran minister like two of his brothers[11] (Jerrold has a doctorate in counseling and attended Princeton Seminary; David pastors Trinity Lutheran Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan).[8][14] Instead he decided to pursue a medical doctorate at Duke University School of Medicine in Durham, North Carolina, attaining it in 1961. He interned and began residency training, both in internal medicine, at Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit (1961–1962);[27] Carol meanwhile ran a dance school in their basement and raised collies.[9]

The medical training was soon interrupted when he received a draft notice and entered the U.S. Air Force during the Cuban Missile Crisis.[28] He remained in the military during the early years of the Vietnam War.[29] He served active duty as a flight surgeon from 1963 to 1965, attending to the ear, nose, and throat problems of pilots in South Korea, Iran, Ethiopia, and Turkey, but was never sent to Vietnam. Based out of Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Paul achieved the rank of captain[10][30] and obtained his private pilot's license.[16] The experience of performing physicals on helicopter pilot candidates, at a time when he saw many copters being shot down, deeply affected Paul; he later considered his indirect association with the Vietnam War as a catalyst for his rejection of interventionist foreign policy.[31]

Paul received a higher wage from the Air Force than during his initial residency, $700 per month;[32] he joked that he was "fantastically rich."[16] While in San Antonio, Paul also moonlighted three nights a week in a local church hospital's emergency room for $3 per hour, and became involved with Barry Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign.[14] He then served in the Air National Guard while completing his residency (1965–1968), having switched to ob/gyn at the University of Pittsburgh.[33] His residency research into causes of pregnancy toxemia was subsequently published in the journal Obstetrics and Gynecology. He moved to Surfside Beach, Texas, on July 3, 1968, and eventually delivered more than 4,000 babies.[34]

Assuming the practice of a retiring doctor in Lake Jackson, Texas, in a single day, Paul became the only ob/gyn doctor in Brazoria County,[16] reportedly delivering 40–50 babies a month and frequently busy with surgery.[35] His practice refused Medicare and Medicaid payments; he worked pro bono, arranged discounted or custom-payment plans for needy patients,[23] or otherwise "just took care of them."[36]

Originally Posted by Snownuts

wow i had no idea ron paul was 73- i will say the man looks great for his age.

but that about all i will say about him.

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

Sofisticated is noones alt. His writing style is indeed different from OOTF and his Ron Paul zealotry doesnt match any other posters as far as I can tell.