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Old 08-31-2008, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Already got some shit going down in Minneapolis.


Massive police raids on suspected protestors in Minneapolis - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

Protesters here in Minneapolis have been targeted by a series of highly intimidating, sweeping police raids across the city, involving teams of 25-30 officers in riot gear, with semi-automatic weapons drawn, entering homes of those suspected of planning protests, handcuffing and forcing them to lay on the floor, while law enforcement officers searched the homes, seizing computers, journals, and political pamphlets. Last night, members of the St. Paul police department and the Ramsey County sheriff's department handcuffed, photographed and detained dozens of people meeting at a public venue to plan a demonstration, charging them with no crime other than "fire code violations," and early this morning, the Sheriff's department sent teams of officers into at least four Minneapolis area homes where suspected protesters were staying.





In the house that had just been raided, those inside described how a team of roughly 25 officers had barged into their homes with masks and black swat gear, holding large semi-automatic rifles, and ordered them to lie on the floor, where they were handcuffed and ordered not to move. The officers refused to state why they were there and, until the very end, refused to show whether they had a search warrant. They were forced to remain on the floor for 45 minutes while the officers took away the laptops, computers, individual journals, and political materials kept in the house. One of the individuals renting the house, an 18-year-old woman, was extremely shaken as she and others described how the officers were deliberately making intimidating statements such as "Do you have Terminator ready?" as they lay on the floor in handcuffs. The 10 or so individuals in the house all said that though they found the experience very jarring, they still intended to protest against the GOP Convention, and several said that being subjected to raids of that sort made them more emboldened than ever to do so.



Nestor indicated that only 2 or 3 of the 50 individuals who were handcuffed this morning at the 2 houses were actually arrested and charged with a crime, and the crime they were charged with is "conspiracy to commit riot." Nestor, who has practiced law in Minnesota for many years, said that he had never before heard of that statute being used for anything, and that its parameters are so self-evidently vague, designed to allow pre-emeptive arrests of those who are peacefully protesting, that it is almost certainly unconstitutional, though because it had never been invoked (until now), its constitutionality had not been tested.

There is clearly an intent on the part of law enforcement authorities here to engage in extreme and highly intimidating raids against those who are planning to protest the Convention. The DNC in Denver was the site of several quite ugly incidents where law enforcement acted on behalf of Democratic Party officials and the corporate elite that funded the Convention to keep the media and protesters from doing anything remotely off-script. But the massive and plainly excessive preemptive police raids in Minnesota are of a different order altogether. Targeting people with automatic-weapons-carrying SWAT teams and mass raids in their homes, who are suspected of nothing more than planning dissident political protests at a political convention and who have engaged in no illegal activity whatsoever, is about as redolent of the worst tactics of a police state as can be imagined.




So now planning a peace rally will get you raided and arrested.

Crazy times folks. more to come from the RNC im sure.

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edit- they're also detaining journalists now. very strange stuff going down.
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Old 08-31-2008, 12:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 08-31-2008, 12:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The 10 or so individuals in the house all said that though they found the experience very jarring, they still intended to protest against the GOP Convention, and several said that being subjected to raids of that sort made them more emboldened than ever to do so.
Too bad it won't work. What you resist, persists. Same goes for the "Government."
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Police State. Called it.
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I don't like that bush is now using the Hurricane so "Chin-ee" and him can weasle out of the convention.

Like no reporter can see through that huge turd?

And some reporters are playing dumb.

Bush and Chinn-ee have too much work to PARTY?!?!
(Yeah right since when??)

Brokaw and Koppel On DNC: "Kabuki Dance... Colossal Waste Of Time And Money" (VIDEO)

Koppel, the former ABC newsman who now works for BBC America, said he's
been telling his audience the whole thing could be done in a day and a half
and is a "colossal waste of time and money," especially when penny-pinching
media could use the money to cover more important news. "Spend it on
sending someone to Pakistan."




It's just a big excuse to party and waste your money
everytime you check the 1$ box on your paycheck to fund the campain.

Your Money and Lobbyist Money pay for the drinks and ballons.

I never check that 1$ box!
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Police State. Called it.
i dont think its quite that absolute. it certainly isnt getting better, or even stabilizing.

have people ever been arrested like this in america, preemptively, and charged with "conspiracy to commit riot?"

i mean i know this is all a result of the patriot act, police just charging into their homes and looking on their computers and whatnot. the citations are pretty shocking to me.
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Old 08-31-2008, 02:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It's a police state on demand. The covert turns overt.
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And weed.

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Great news.

I dont even understand why. I mean, what majour threat do these folks represent to the establishment? Why would they be 'overt' about the police state type powers for this event???

Also, Dub if you see this, whats your take on it?
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canuck like waves said in another thread, it's about the tipping point. we're all working together in a synchronous way toward peace, liberty, etc. our lives are just the the story of how we choose to manifest it. what we're witnessing is a self-inflicted pressure or friction to find out how badly we want it and what we're willing to do to get it. think of it as a kind of hundredth monkey syndrome. people need to wake the fuck up. not to the "police state," but to the fact that our world is changing and the behaviors that always used to "work" are losing their utility. i can see it in my life, my business, everything. things will get worse and worse for us (greater and greater illumination of the problems we face) until we think it's bad enough to try and figure out what the deal is and what's causing it: why we're letting it happen, why we're attracting it to us. there is such a tipping point for the person as well as the collective.

so, no one sees these protesters as a threat. the police doing it, the people in charge of the police doing it: they probably don't even know why they do it other than that they like to. they are just the elements of a perfect storm, rattling the windows of our comfortable, habitual lives, hoping we'll open up the curtains, take a look around us, and wonder what we might be able to do differently to make our world and our lives better. everyone from the guy who cuts you off on the highway to the pig who throws you in a warehouse for protesting is playing their part.
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