The West No Longer the Best?

The Rev · 07-11-2009, 01:19 PM

Listing of best to worst economies in the world:

2009 GDP Growth
China 7.5
India 5.4
Middle East 2.0
Africa 1.8
Brazil -1.3
World total -1.4
Canada -2.3
U.S. -2.6
France -3.0
Spain -4.0
U.K. -4.2
European Union -4.7
Central/Eastern Europe -5.0
Italy -5.1
Japan -6.0
Germany -6.2
Russia -6.5
Mexico -7.3

Source

It's kinda looking like the old hegemony is making way for something new. The top worl economies are now some of the countries that were considered the world's poorest nations. Shit, even Africa is kicking our ass!

I think the word "Pwned!!" doesn't do this justice.

The Rev

al-Mu'akhkhir · 07-11-2009, 01:25 PM

cool maybe the canadian dollar will skyrocket in value?

when is the american economy expected to rebound? i heard on the radio the other day that the canadian economy will not be where it was projected to be before the economic depression for another ~10 years.

FourtySecondRip · 07-11-2009, 02:44 PM

http://www.yahooka.com/forum/politic...ng-global.html

that thread explains africas position

Xil · 07-11-2009, 02:47 PM

when you have nothing and you grow 10% you still have nothing. When you have everything and grow 0% you still have everything.

Extremes obviously, but a point to be made.

al-Mu'akhkhir · 07-11-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xil

when you have nothing and you grow 10% you still have nothing. When you have everything and grow 0% you still have everything.

Extremes obviously, but a point to be made.

how drunk are you?

osirus2020 · 07-12-2009, 10:09 AM

Jim Morrison still thinks so.

John F. Kerry · 07-12-2009, 10:18 AM

a few points.

our economy is already DEVELOPED, so the idea that we could have the same growth as china and india which still has billions of people to feed and clothe let alone house and educate is misplaced....they have to use their funds to do those things- we for the most part have that stuff taken care of- our infrastructure is in place, roads schools hospitals etc.... ours may be old, but chinas are non-existant.

another thing- america has 5% of the worlds population but thanks to free trade and open borders we have a market of 8 billion people for mcdonalds, ford, gm, boeing etc....

the fact that the world is getting richer simply means that more people will be able to afford our shit.

by the time it all evens out china will have to worry about things like the disparity between rich and poor and taxes and healthcare benefits and all the same things western developed countries worry about- getting from one level to another only means that you have a new set of problems to deal with .

John F. Kerry · 07-12-2009, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xil

when you have nothing and you grow 10% you still have nothing. When you have everything and grow 0% you still have everything.

Extremes obviously, but a point to be made.

i didnt see this but basically this is the same thing i said just more concise

The Rev · 07-12-2009, 12:11 PM

You may be right, but I still think the idea that Africa is kicking our ass is cooler, so I'm going to stick with that.

The Rev

osirus2020 · 07-12-2009, 12:27 PM

The fuck

**Mafoo** · 07-12-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osirus2020

The fuck

!!

pacman · 07-12-2009, 01:38 PM

Rev, what you do and film in your own time would be best kept to yourself. kthx

OldSchoolStylee · 07-14-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F. Kerry

a few points.

our economy is already DEVELOPED, so the idea that we could have the same growth as china and india which still has billions of people to feed and clothe let alone house and educate is misplaced....they have to use their funds to do those things- we for the most part have that stuff taken care of- our infrastructure is in place, roads schools hospitals etc.... ours may be old, but chinas are non-existant.

another thing- america has 5% of the worlds population but thanks to free trade and open borders we have a market of 8 billion people for mcdonalds, ford, gm, boeing etc....

the fact that the world is getting richer simply means that more people will be able to afford our shit.

by the time it all evens out china will have to worry about things like the disparity between rich and poor and taxes and healthcare benefits and all the same things western developed countries worry about- getting from one level to another only means that you have a new set of problems to deal with .

Pretty much every point you've said here is wrong

Canuck Wisdom · 07-14-2009, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xil

when you have nothing and you grow 10% you still have nothing. When you have everything and grow 0% you still have everything.

Extremes obviously, but a point to be made.

yep.

Also notice that the top growing economies in that list are large resource exporters, which are still needed during depressions, and/or they have enormous populations with cheap labour.

John F. Kerry · 07-14-2009, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchoolStylee

Pretty much every point you've said here is wrong

welll if u know anything about me u know id like a more substantive rebuttal then that.

07-11-2009, 01:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,860 Thanks: 5,012 Thanked 5,416 Times in 2,862 Posts	The West No Longer the Best? Listing of best to worst economies in the world: 2009 GDP Growth China 7.5 India 5.4 Middle East 2.0 Africa 1.8 Brazil -1.3 World total -1.4 Canada -2.3 U.S. -2.6 France -3.0 Spain -4.0 U.K. -4.2 European Union -4.7 Central/Eastern Europe -5.0 Italy -5.1 Japan -6.0 Germany -6.2 Russia -6.5 Mexico -7.3 Source It's kinda looking like the old hegemony is making way for something new. The top worl economies are now some of the countries that were considered the world's poorest nations. Shit, even Africa is kicking our ass! I think the word "Pwned!!" doesn't do this justice. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

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al-Mu'akhkhir Vem Para Ficar Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in some pussy Posts: 3,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 351 Times in 270 Posts	cool maybe the canadian dollar will skyrocket in value? when is the american economy expected to rebound? i heard on the radio the other day that the canadian economy will not be where it was projected to be before the economic depression for another ~10 years. __________________

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FourtySecondRip ECS Join Date: May 2002 Location: Emerald City Posts: 820 Thanks: 25 Thanked 107 Times in 87 Posts	http://www.yahooka.com/forum/politic...ng-global.html that thread explains africas position __________________ ..,,,O,,,.. <\FSR/> .,._/\_.,

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The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,860 Thanks: 5,012 Thanked 5,416 Times in 2,862 Posts	You may be right, but I still think the idea that Africa is kicking our ass is cooler, so I'm going to stick with that. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012 Last edited by The Rev; 07-12-2009 at 12:18 PM.

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John F. Kerry Weiner-stache Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,734 Thanks: 1,831 Thanked 497 Times in 355 Posts	a few points. our economy is already DEVELOPED, so the idea that we could have the same growth as china and india which still has billions of people to feed and clothe let alone house and educate is misplaced....they have to use their funds to do those things- we for the most part have that stuff taken care of- our infrastructure is in place, roads schools hospitals etc.... ours may be old, but chinas are non-existant. another thing- america has 5% of the worlds population but thanks to free trade and open borders we have a market of 8 billion people for mcdonalds, ford, gm, boeing etc.... the fact that the world is getting richer simply means that more people will be able to afford our shit. by the time it all evens out china will have to worry about things like the disparity between rich and poor and taxes and healthcare benefits and all the same things western developed countries worry about- getting from one level to another only means that you have a new set of problems to deal with .

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