Benjamin Franklin was a scumbag

Geeno · 08-26-2009, 07:02 PM

Agreed

José · 08-26-2009, 07:03 PM

first

OldMan&TheWeed · 08-26-2009, 07:21 PM

Please explain.

Maturin · 08-26-2009, 07:45 PM

He was something of a libertine. Not very faithful to his wife, etc.

Your point?

Sugar420 · 08-26-2009, 07:50 PM

i think i remember reading somewhere that he was a remarkably farty man, but i dont know if its true or not

Dr. Drew · 08-26-2009, 07:52 PM

agreed indeed

anonymous49 · 08-26-2009, 07:56 PM

Thomas Jefferson was a two-faced scumbag... but whats not to like about ben?

wellfleation · 08-26-2009, 08:26 PM

Who cares about their personal shit. These guys were real politicians who were brilliant and did their jobs for the love of their country not a paycheck (they refused to be compensated and thought of public service as a duty not a job). Now a days these scam artists pass legislation strictly under the guise that they will get a guaranteed payday from the company's they passed laws favorable to once they leave office. Notice the huge money for speaking engagements ex-presidents and even congressmen get. Or the cushy jobs and who they get them from.

OldMan&TheWeed · 08-26-2009, 08:34 PM

Benjamin Franklin was an uncompromising abolitionist, his century's top scientist, and was more than likely a closet atheist.

For a slave holding Bible-believing fundamentalist, he was certainly a scumbag.

For a freedom-loving free thinker, he is an admirable man.

R1bal · 08-26-2009, 09:18 PM

good points

bongobongo · 08-26-2009, 09:59 PM

you mean its SCAMBAG

Grieves · 08-26-2009, 11:39 PM

they all stole their ideas from blacks and the ugly...

Silverleaf · 08-26-2009, 11:44 PM

good tricks, good tricks.

Geeno · 08-27-2009, 01:32 AM

Smart guy? yeah why not

Complete scumbag, moral degenerate and traitor? yes.

ionlylooklazy · 08-27-2009, 06:04 AM

wait till you meet his sister!

verklingen · 08-27-2009, 06:22 AM

didn't they find dead bodies under his floorboards or some shit

Mikey · 08-27-2009, 06:35 AM

you know what, he probably was.

but then again come to think of it, almost everybody is a fkin scumbag with skeletons in their closet.

tedkennedy · 08-27-2009, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellfleation

Who cares about their personal shit. These guys were real politicians who were brilliant and did their jobs for the love of their country not a paycheck (they refused to be compensated and thought of public service as a duty not a job). Now a days these scam artists pass legislation strictly under the guise that they will get a guaranteed payday from the company's they passed laws favorable to once they leave office. Notice the huge money for speaking engagements ex-presidents and even congressmen get. Or the cushy jobs and who they get them from.

yea and presumably they were rich white slave owners anyway, what the fuck would they need with a paycheck for civil service...

but i agree their positive contribution to america and the world was substantial, however the government is still run by rich white farts.

John F. Kerry · 08-27-2009, 09:32 AM

not to mention that without old ben we would be pledging allegiance to the union jack .

without france america never would have won the revolution, without franklin we never would have had france as an ally .

verklingen · 08-27-2009, 09:33 AM

dude wanted the turkey to be our national bird

08-26-2009, 07:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
OldMan&TheWeed been there done that Join Date: May 2006 Location: The West Posts: 2,281 Thanks: 294 Thanked 800 Times in 406 Posts	Please explain. __________________ Nintey-three percent of what I say is brilliant, factual information and seven percent is complete bullshit. Have fun deciding which is which.

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Maturin Hmm? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Das Kapital Posts: 1,849 Thanks: 93 Thanked 88 Times in 65 Posts	He was something of a libertine. Not very faithful to his wife, etc. Your point? __________________ "Creating something is not a democracy. The people have no say. The artist does. It doesn't matter what the people witter on about: they and their response comes after. They're not there for the moment of creation." --Russell T Davies

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anonymous49 Kamehameha Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: in a k-hole Posts: 1,223 Thanks: 2 Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts	Thomas Jefferson was a two-faced scumbag... but whats not to like about ben? __________________ Wake up in the morning got the yearning for herb which loosens up the nouns, metaphors, and verbs.

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wellfleation Old School Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 3,853 Thanks: 195 Thanked 601 Times in 427 Posts	Who cares about their personal shit. These guys were real politicians who were brilliant and did their jobs for the love of their country not a paycheck (they refused to be compensated and thought of public service as a duty not a job). Now a days these scam artists pass legislation strictly under the guise that they will get a guaranteed payday from the company's they passed laws favorable to once they leave office. Notice the huge money for speaking engagements ex-presidents and even congressmen get. Or the cushy jobs and who they get them from. __________________ FIGHTPOWER Last edited by wellfleation; 08-26-2009 at 08:29 PM.

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OldMan&TheWeed been there done that Join Date: May 2006 Location: The West Posts: 2,281 Thanks: 294 Thanked 800 Times in 406 Posts	Benjamin Franklin was an uncompromising abolitionist, his century's top scientist, and was more than likely a closet atheist. For a slave holding Bible-believing fundamentalist, he was certainly a scumbag. For a freedom-loving free thinker, he is an admirable man. __________________ Nintey-three percent of what I say is brilliant, factual information and seven percent is complete bullshit. Have fun deciding which is which.

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José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,363 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	first

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Sugar420 Freedom Bird Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,132 Thanks: 39 Thanked 176 Times in 728 Posts	i think i remember reading somewhere that he was a remarkably farty man, but i dont know if its true or not

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bongobongo ognob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: \D:/ Posts: 349 Thanks: 407 Thanked 110 Times in 60 Posts	you mean its SCAMBAG

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ionlylooklazy no left turn unstoned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: washington Posts: 4,045 Thanks: 56 Thanked 558 Times in 292 Posts	wait till you meet his sister!

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verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,005 Thanks: 811 Thanked 1,491 Times in 946 Posts	didn't they find dead bodies under his floorboards or some shit __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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Mikey Seasoned YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: gulf islands bc Posts: 7,442 Thanks: 1,144 Thanked 2,246 Times in 1,475 Posts	you know what, he probably was. but then again come to think of it, almost everybody is a fkin scumbag with skeletons in their closet. __________________ RIP Gov

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John F. Kerry Weiner-stache Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,734 Thanks: 1,831 Thanked 497 Times in 355 Posts	not to mention that without old ben we would be pledging allegiance to the union jack . without france america never would have won the revolution, without franklin we never would have had france as an ally .

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verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,005 Thanks: 811 Thanked 1,491 Times in 946 Posts	dude wanted the turkey to be our national bird __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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