Is intelligence a curse or a blessing?

badgoalie85 · 10-05-2009, 03:54 PM

They say ignorance is bliss.

I also feel like in general, people with exceptionally high levels of intelligence often have a harder time fitting into a social environment.

my_scatterheart · 10-05-2009, 03:56 PM

There's a difference between intelligence and being so enamored with it, sometimes even obsessed that you become incapable of living a normal life.

SmokeSomeDoja · 10-05-2009, 03:58 PM

its not a curse in that its what you make it.

verklingen · 10-05-2009, 03:59 PM

whoa dude you've been thanked 181 times in 118 posts. trippy

i'd say it's a def blessing. everyone finds their niche, even my asperger'd brother. and it beats trading intelligence for wanting to watch reality tv

badgoalie85 · 10-05-2009, 04:04 PM

hmmmm

good posts but i'm still pretty stumped. glad i voted for the i'm gay option.

Roach · 10-05-2009, 04:06 PM

Reminds me of a recent article I read.

It stated that career criminals tend to have lower IQ's.

Well DUH !

Possibly why they cannot connect the crime with the potential punishment.

I don't value things in terms of blessings and curses , but I do think that those who can comprehend and retain at a higher rate, have a definate advantage in life.

**Mafoo** · 10-05-2009, 04:06 PM

i call it a responsibility. its really easy to be a dick when you know more than your fellows. with knowledge comes the responsibility to be compassionate to people who may not know as much as yourself, and to know when you can be helpful or when your input would be rude.

ya id say its a gift that requires some responsibility

Waves · 10-05-2009, 04:11 PM

intelligence isnt all its propped up to be. success in life is about so much more than just intelligence. there are tons of depressed smart people and tons of happy successful idiots.

**Mafoo** · 10-05-2009, 04:17 PM

truth waves. i think it might be easier to be happy when you are ignorant to alot of the inequities in modern day affairs. in fact, i think the middle ground, intelligence wise, are the ones who go the farthest. i think knowing more often leads to a feeling of helplessness and hopelessness with regard to bettering the world or w/e it is were supposed to be doing

Dr. Nick Nasty · 10-05-2009, 04:19 PM

it's a double-edged sword. the very qualities that constitute intelligence (analytic thinking, a desire to work out problems and weigh options) are also your worst weakness in alot of social relationships. you just have to recognize that it's a process of thinking and to live in the now. *ramble end*

The SARS Volta · 10-05-2009, 05:18 PM

Both, easily

flappy · 10-05-2009, 05:19 PM

The Shariyat Ki Sugmad says:
Intellect is a lower state of awareness.

toastyroach · 10-05-2009, 05:23 PM

it's true, it's a blessing & a curse...

on one hand I have a high paying & good career, etc thisthat&theother

on the other; i realize just how fucking a lone I am

toastyroach · 10-05-2009, 05:26 PM

anyone else notice the correlation between looks and intellect?

like the ladies that work at quick check by my house are the ugliest horse faced bitched i've ever seen in my life and theyre like 40 and make 8$ an hour

then there's some really intelligent & good looking women i've met in my life (& yes theres a lot of hot dumb blondes but...)

I think it's simple logic... if you're smart, you will make good money & get a hot wife. you will have kids; your kids will be smart & good looking..

if you're dumb/ugly you will have a dumb/ugly wife/kids...

sure, there's peaks & valleys in the graph, but for the most part, its basic survival of the fittest...

when's the last time you saw an ugly girl driving a really nice car? go ahead... prove me wrong

Waves · 10-05-2009, 05:28 PM

its not survival of the fittest because we're all surviving. its physics

like attracts like

hot people attract other hot people and vice versa

intelligent people attract other intelligent people

ugly people attract other ugly people

i dont mean to be a dick thats just how shit goes

The Rev · 10-05-2009, 05:55 PM

I walk around thinking, "How can these fucktards manage to remember to breathe, let alone work productively and pay their bills?" It's like "Idiocracy" every day, wherever I go. I get really sick of explaining simple shit to people. I have no one to talk to about the things that really interest me because few people are capable of understanding ideas that are too divergent from their conditioning. It's only the fact that I have a sense of humor that makes it possible for me to fit in with others.

On the other hand, there is such glorious, awe-inspiring beauty in every moment of my life. The simple elegance of everything reveals itself to me. The ideas and visions that fill my hours of attention are like magic. I would never give up the intellect I possess, even though it has made me very lonely.

(BTW, I hope I don't come off as completely full of myself, but it really is a fact that I am in possession of an intellect that greatly exceeds that of nearly everyone I meet. I also probably cling to this idea, and its appeal, more than is healthy. However, when people don't understand you, they think you're not worth understanding, and that shit gets really REALLY old.)

The Rev

The SARS Volta · 10-05-2009, 07:55 PM

A lot of virtues other than intelligence have the dynamic of a blessing and a curse. Talent comes with a price to pay; having a lot of money means having all these new moochers in the form of cousins you've never met before, being an attractive guy might mean gay guys trying to holla, etc

Cerpin Taxt · 10-05-2009, 08:16 PM

Rev... are you... me?

Take out the 'really sick of explaining simple shit to people' (I'm too young to be saying this haha) and keep everything else as it is and that's where I'm at on this issue.

badgoalie85 · 10-05-2009, 08:44 PM

i'm far smarter than either one of you.

Roach · 10-05-2009, 08:49 PM

^ some of the notes he was singing sounded very familiar to me too.

sometimes, people will want to tell me of some amazing new concept/discovery/change...and so often, I just have to look right thru their heads, because the discussion is so trite to me.

But I isolate more now, so it doesn't happen all that often.

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10-05-2009, 03:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
badgoalie85 Spiraling Out Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 1,145 Thanks: 97 Thanked 454 Times in 288 Posts	Is intelligence a curse or a blessing? They say ignorance is bliss. I also feel like in general, people with exceptionally high levels of intelligence often have a harder time fitting into a social environment. __________________ Pursue happiness. To each his own.

10-05-2009, 03:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
my_scatterheart Today, I am alive. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 4,061 Thanks: 1,300 Thanked 2,713 Times in 1,579 Posts	There's a difference between intelligence and being so enamored with it, sometimes even obsessed that you become incapable of living a normal life. __________________ Be mindful even if your mind is full. -J. De La Vega

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SmokeSomeDoja Lushous Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Erogenous Zones Posts: 17,396 Thanks: 238 Thanked 445 Times in 279 Posts	its not a curse in that its what you make it. __________________ fotoz fo yo azz "I've run over black cats that were luckier than me."

10-05-2009, 03:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	whoa dude you've been thanked 181 times in 118 posts. trippy i'd say it's a def blessing. everyone finds their niche, even my asperger'd brother. and it beats trading intelligence for wanting to watch reality tv __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

10-05-2009, 04:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
badgoalie85 Spiraling Out Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 1,145 Thanks: 97 Thanked 454 Times in 288 Posts	hmmmm good posts but i'm still pretty stumped. glad i voted for the i'm gay option. __________________ Pursue happiness. To each his own.

10-05-2009, 04:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 6,771 Thanks: 2,116 Thanked 1,721 Times in 1,333 Posts	Reminds me of a recent article I read. It stated that career criminals tend to have lower IQ's. Well DUH ! Possibly why they cannot connect the crime with the potential punishment. I don't value things in terms of blessings and curses , but I do think that those who can comprehend and retain at a higher rate, have a definate advantage in life.

10-05-2009, 04:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,962 Thanks: 3,491 Thanked 2,356 Times in 1,540 Posts	i call it a responsibility. its really easy to be a dick when you know more than your fellows. with knowledge comes the responsibility to be compassionate to people who may not know as much as yourself, and to know when you can be helpful or when your input would be rude. ya id say its a gift that requires some responsibility __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

10-05-2009, 04:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
Waves Duderino Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: chiburbs Posts: 15,475 Thanks: 991 Thanked 4,021 Times in 2,219 Posts	intelligence isnt all its propped up to be. success in life is about so much more than just intelligence. there are tons of depressed smart people and tons of happy successful idiots. __________________ On this life that we call home The years go fast and the days go so slow

10-05-2009, 04:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,962 Thanks: 3,491 Thanked 2,356 Times in 1,540 Posts	truth waves. i think it might be easier to be happy when you are ignorant to alot of the inequities in modern day affairs. in fact, i think the middle ground, intelligence wise, are the ones who go the farthest. i think knowing more often leads to a feeling of helplessness and hopelessness with regard to bettering the world or w/e it is were supposed to be doing __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

10-05-2009, 04:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dr. Nick Nasty A PhD in Anarchy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York/New Jersey Metro Wasteland Posts: 1,095 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 576 Thanked 347 Times in 219 Posts	it's a double-edged sword. the very qualities that constitute intelligence (analytic thinking, a desire to work out problems and weigh options) are also your worst weakness in alot of social relationships. you just have to recognize that it's a process of thinking and to live in the now. ramble end __________________ The true [classical] liberal, in pursuit of fixed principles, must never have fixed political alliances. They must change based on the ruling rationale of the moment.- Lew Rockwell

10-05-2009, 05:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
flappy YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 807 Thanks: 48 Thanked 102 Times in 85 Posts	The Shariyat Ki Sugmad says: Intellect is a lower state of awareness. __________________ <> <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> <>

10-05-2009, 05:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
toastyroach sky blue bally kid Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: loungin, between two pillars of ivory Posts: 3,272 Thanks: 4 Thanked 53 Times in 32 Posts	it's true, it's a blessing & a curse... on one hand I have a high paying & good career, etc thisthat&theother on the other; i realize just how fucking a lone I am __________________ Choose the sword.. and you will join me.. .. choose the ball, and you will join your mother in death You don't understand my words... but you must choose.. So.. come boy... choose life or death

10-05-2009, 05:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
toastyroach sky blue bally kid Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: loungin, between two pillars of ivory Posts: 3,272 Thanks: 4 Thanked 53 Times in 32 Posts	anyone else notice the correlation between looks and intellect? like the ladies that work at quick check by my house are the ugliest horse faced bitched i've ever seen in my life and theyre like 40 and make 8$ an hour then there's some really intelligent & good looking women i've met in my life (& yes theres a lot of hot dumb blondes but...) I think it's simple logic... if you're smart, you will make good money & get a hot wife. you will have kids; your kids will be smart & good looking.. if you're dumb/ugly you will have a dumb/ugly wife/kids... sure, there's peaks & valleys in the graph, but for the most part, its basic survival of the fittest... when's the last time you saw an ugly girl driving a really nice car? go ahead... prove me wrong __________________ Choose the sword.. and you will join me.. .. choose the ball, and you will join your mother in death You don't understand my words... but you must choose.. So.. come boy... choose life or death

10-05-2009, 05:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
Waves Duderino Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: chiburbs Posts: 15,475 Thanks: 991 Thanked 4,021 Times in 2,219 Posts	its not survival of the fittest because we're all surviving. its physics like attracts like hot people attract other hot people and vice versa intelligent people attract other intelligent people ugly people attract other ugly people i dont mean to be a dick thats just how shit goes __________________ On this life that we call home The years go fast and the days go so slow

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10-05-2009, 05:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,672 Thanks: 4,716 Thanked 5,056 Times in 2,707 Posts	I walk around thinking, "How can these fucktards manage to remember to breathe, let alone work productively and pay their bills?" It's like "Idiocracy" every day, wherever I go. I get really sick of explaining simple shit to people. I have no one to talk to about the things that really interest me because few people are capable of understanding ideas that are too divergent from their conditioning. It's only the fact that I have a sense of humor that makes it possible for me to fit in with others. On the other hand, there is such glorious, awe-inspiring beauty in every moment of my life. The simple elegance of everything reveals itself to me. The ideas and visions that fill my hours of attention are like magic. I would never give up the intellect I possess, even though it has made me very lonely. (BTW, I hope I don't come off as completely full of myself, but it really is a fact that I am in possession of an intellect that greatly exceeds that of nearly everyone I meet. I also probably cling to this idea, and its appeal, more than is healthy. However, when people don't understand you, they think you're not worth understanding, and that shit gets really REALLY old.) The Rev __________________ "You're seriously flying close to the fag-sun, icarus." -Flamingnun

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Cerpin Taxt Yahookan Zealot Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 7,222 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 840 Thanked 1,867 Times in 996 Posts	Rev... are you... me? Take out the 'really sick of explaining simple shit to people' (I'm too young to be saying this haha) and keep everything else as it is and that's where I'm at on this issue. __________________ Step Back. Evaluate. Recognize. "The mind is a superb instrument if used rightly. Used wrongly, however, it becomes very destructive. To put it more accurately, it is not so much that you use your mind wrongly—you usually don't use it at all. It uses you." -Eckhart Tolle -If you try to destroy him to save them, they'll destroy you to save him-

10-05-2009, 08:44 PM	#19 (permalink)
badgoalie85 Spiraling Out Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 1,145 Thanks: 97 Thanked 454 Times in 288 Posts	i'm far smarter than either one of you. __________________ Pursue happiness. To each his own.

10-05-2009, 08:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 6,771 Thanks: 2,116 Thanked 1,721 Times in 1,333 Posts	^ some of the notes he was singing sounded very familiar to me too. sometimes, people will want to tell me of some amazing new concept/discovery/change...and so often, I just have to look right thru their heads, because the discussion is so trite to me. But I isolate more now, so it doesn't happen all that often.