scottishbastard

I'll start this by saying I know its the cool thing to be a nihilist about this type of situation, so feel free to make all the faux-offensive comments you want. I just feel I should do this.

After a troubling experience earlier in the year, I have done everything I can in my personal life to try and educate people about Glue Traps. I was outside of my old methadone clinic smoking a cigarette while a friend of mine was signing up...Its in downtown/east l.a. so the area is a bit trashy. I looked down and saw a dead mouse stuck to a gluetrap in the gutter. No big deal.
So I go back in and wait a while, then come back out again about an hour later to smoke again. This time I notice the mouse looks like its moving a little bit.

So I go up to it and check out its situation. It starts squeaking at me like "Wtf bro?". So I try pulling it off but quickly realize this will do more harm than good. I got my girlfriend's phone and searched on the net how to remove them from these traps. It suggested a few things but all I had was moisturizer, so I used that. After about 45 minutes of slowly taking off one foot at a time I got the little dude free.

But thats when I noticed the damage. He had blood in his mouth from his teeth being pulled out (from the glue). Atleast one of it's legs appeared broken, patches of fur were missing, and there was still glue all over the animal's feet so it would accumulating tons of leaves and shit as it tried to walk.

I left a cap of water and some of my granola bar for it and left it to die a somewhat dignified death, because I knew it would never make it on its own.

Now I'm against killing of any kind (to any creature), but I would like to say that IF you feel it to be necessary there are traps that catch without killing. But since most of us are too lazy and/or careless to buy these specialized traps, ATLEAST have the human decency to use a secured spring loaded trap. The point is to kill and/or remove the animal, not to let it starve to death and tear apart its body. Just a thought.

What happens to animals caught in glue traps?

If the trap is small, a larger animal may be able to pull the trap off, though she may lose fur or skin in the process. A smaller animal has no means to escape. Larger glue traps (models more than two feet across are sold to catch snakes) can trap medium-sized animals, including pets.

It may take three to five days for an animal to die, perhaps even longer for a reptile. Some animals succumb to exhaustion, collapse face down in the glue and die of suffocation when the glue lodges in their nasal passages—a process that can take anywhere from three to 24 hours. Most often death comes from a combination of exhaustion, dehydration and starvation.

Glue Traps | The Humane Society of the United States


That's it. Thanks for listening.

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

scottishbastard

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

my_scatterheart

yeah dood, they suck. I rather let my mousercat go eat one than glue trap them bitches. Not nice

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verklingen

is it any different to use them for insects?

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my_scatterheart

kitties fix everything dood. They eat meeses, flies, spiders....get a wonder cat!

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verklingen

our cat is a lazy fuck

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my_scatterheart

haha that sucks. my two bounce around after sleepy wasps and lovelovelove big furry spiders. every now and then a beetle gets under the front door....HEAVEN. they live for that shit. trade yo's in for a new model

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scottishbastard

I dont personally believe they should be used for anything. For bugs just get either citronella candels, or if youre poor just use one of those bug zapper things. I'd prefer we didnt kill things out of pure convenience, but if youre going to there are ways to do it quick.

This isnt an issue of "Dont kill animals". Its an issue of human compassion. It's like if we used glue traps to execute prisoners...Theres just not much way to justify it.

I love how the traps tell you to just "throw it away" when you find the mouse on it lol. Dont worry if its only 1/3 dead...just toss it dude.

Anyways yeah...Cats are awesome. I always cringe when I hear one of my cats (I no longer own cats) killing a mouse, but I'm not one of those psycho animal rights people. I am fine with the natural circle of life (it moves us all ya know), but glue traps are unnatural and unnecessary.

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

cantSEEme

i use fly glue traps to alert me of fungus gnats. they seem to be here year round for this area. cant use lit candles in an enclosed area without monitoring them.

for animals though, that's just plain fucked up. even for "pests". most problem animals can be solved without killing them, but with pests like termites and things that do damage to your home, there really is no option but to kill them.

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scottishbastard

I wouldnt bash on someone for fumigating because of fleas or termites or something that causes real damage. Everyone freaks about about mice because theyre "filthy"....Mayb e its just your house thats filthy...lol

But yeah, I dont know what a fungus gnat is, but they sound dangerous.

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

cantSEEme

they're not dangerous. they are basically like fruit flies, feed on decaying matter, and lay thousands of larva in soil that eat plant roots. in other words, they can kill plants.

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scottishbastard

I would say saving plants is a decent reason. Better than most people's. But I aint here to judge lol. Just avoid glue traps whenever possible...especiall y on animals bigger than your fingernail.

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

Mikey

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scottishbastard

See? How hard is it to spend a few extra dollars and a few extra minutes to get one of those ^^^? In the end it will save you money anyways.

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

Mikey

and it's nice cause it not only gets them out
it keeps them from coming in in the first place

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scottishbastard

Well see, this thread wasnt directed at sadists. lol

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

scottishbastard

& actually, thats a much more humane thing to do than leave them on the traps. Suffocating and/or freezing to death is a pretty quick death...Freezing to death is actually quite peaceful I hear. I would advise chopping their heads off with a clever though. Thats the quickest.

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

scottishbastard

You should use a flamethrower...Go all IRA stylee.

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

Tricto

Clearly we need tiny electrical chairs to strap them in

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scottishbastard

Oh btw snowmayne

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats