modern warfare 2 - Page 5

Waves · 02-08-2010, 02:11 PM

im so glad ive never played that game. il stick to cod4 and dedicated servers. at least you could shoot down helis :P

**~~SpankyMcLankey~~** · 02-08-2010, 02:13 PM

yeah i like shooting planes and helis down with the stinger. i've gotten a tripply kill with the javelin before just randomly shooting it across the map. so funny!

Sir-Ex · 02-08-2010, 02:25 PM

I think you'd like killzone 2 waves. No airstrikes, it's got an emphasis on a tactical approach, the grenades are not as deadly, and it's actually rather hard to score a 1-hit kill - or more like a half a second kill as it is in COD. You actually have to lead your target if you want to kill them effectively. And although the guns aren't 'real' since it's a sci-fi game, they feel heavy and badass like real weapons.

Flamingnun · 02-08-2010, 02:27 PM

Rofl get one of the original rainbow six's, or Ghost Recon's if you want a tactical shooter. Nothing mentioned above is remotely tactical.

Sir-Ex · 02-08-2010, 02:31 PM

Hey man there's at least a few modicums of tacticlyness in killzone 2.

Flamingnun · 02-08-2010, 02:35 PM

As tactical as an arena shooter can get.

verklingen · 02-08-2010, 02:37 PM

what shooting game have you not had to aim in? aside from fallout 3 if you count it as a shooter

the air support is kinda gay but you can make yourself impervious to most of it with cold blooded (can they still see you with the ac130?). the nuke comes 25 kills in a single spawn. i think the game is balanced rather well. you have to keep on your toes for the unexpected while trying to do unexpected things to get an edge.

i'm new to this shit though. . . custom classes makes me feel like i'm a caveman walking into an unguarded military depot. so while i can see the old hat in it for you dedicated gamers out there, it's still exciting as fuck for me

Sir-Ex · 02-08-2010, 03:12 PM

Most shooters controls feel like point and click, with pin-point reactivity between the controls (be it mouse or stick) and your crosshair, whereas killzone 2 implemented a little physics into the actual aiming process. You can't flick your aim back and forth instantly as if you're waving a gun around in zero grav, there is a delay as your 'arms' compensate for the interta of waving a big heavy gun around.

That's more or less what I meant.

verklingen · 02-08-2010, 03:19 PM

yeah you can't really do that in mw2 either. it's hard to hit anyone without aiming down the sight, and not only does that take longer to do depending on the weight of your gun but your aim also moves much slower while doing so. it's taken some adjusting but i really like it

Waves · 02-08-2010, 04:04 PM

^agreed except quake 3. as far as shooters go quake 3 was the ultimate arena game. that game is all about aim and reaction whereas cs is about teamwork and tactics. i really enjoy playing at a bit higher of a skill level than random deathmatch games. to me theres nothin better than getting to know a cool group of people on the internet and pwning other teams with them with your tactics.

i never played cs on cal but played cod since day 1 and that game got pretty popular at its peak. it had an invite league i was a part of and was also featured in a cpl. good times but i could never get that involved in a video game these days. it actually tought me alot of useful skills applicable in real life too that you wouldnt learn from random deathmatching, like how to work with other people as a team and stuff.

Waves · 02-08-2010, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verklingen

what shooting game have you not had to aim in? aside from fallout 3 if you count it as a shooter

the air support is kinda gay but you can make yourself impervious to most of it with cold blooded (can they still see you with the ac130?). the nuke comes 25 kills in a single spawn. i think the game is balanced rather well. you have to keep on your toes for the unexpected while trying to do unexpected things to get an edge.

i'm new to this shit though. . . custom classes makes me feel like i'm a caveman walking into an unguarded military depot. so while i can see the old hat in it for you dedicated gamers out there, it's still exciting as fuck for me

with the grenade launcher theres no need for aim. just point in the general direction and you have a kill. ive had a problem with that shit since cod4 came out. i hate being killed in a way that requires minimal skill or input on the other person. im fine with being tricked into walking over a nicely placed c4 or something, but this grenade launcher shit lets everyone be a star.

but again im looking at it through the jaded eyes of a cod1 player who is used to playing maps with 1 shot kill non automatic rifles. that shit is killer. you do not know what intensity is until you are sneaking around a map playing against 15 other skilled dudes all shooting at you with their rifles. imagine, in cod4/5, a sniper only match with no scopes and you sort of get the idea ;D

Tricto · 02-08-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowmayne

It is, and always will be, about CS or CSS, as far as competitive games go. The skill gap between a good player to a really good player to an amazing player is fucking huge. No other game takes as much skill as counter strike.

The downfall to CS is the BULLSHIT aiming system it has to it. The first bullet goes where it should, and if you don't wait 10 minutes to fire the next shot, you'll never hit anything. Even if your crosshair is over their head, it's all a matter of luck hitting them if you don't do it in the first shot. I used to like it even though i wasn't good, then i realized how dumb it was.

I know 1 person who still plays any form of CS, and it's my little cousin whom unfortunately got into it because of me. I think it's a slow decline for CS from here, especially if everyone shits on the ProMod again like they did initially.

El Coyote · 02-08-2010, 04:53 PM

nigga went to counter strike college

El Coyote · 02-08-2010, 05:00 PM

shhhhhhhhh you're gonna fuck up my e-cred...

aft3rsh0kk · 02-08-2010, 05:27 PM

i lyk 2 knife

Puffman · 02-08-2010, 05:50 PM

these games debates are about as inane/pointless as the console wars, its all a matter of personal preference.

back to mw2 discussion, i think its good that the knife has at least SOME drawback. it is pretty fuckin deadly as is. its like when the bitch comes out from around the corner right as your trying to throw a frag.

im gonna add u on ps3 bigspliffsmoker

**~~SpankyMcLankey~~** · 02-08-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aft3rsh0kk

i lyk 2 knife

yea its so fun in good servers

pacman · 02-08-2010, 06:37 PM

does anyone play Army of Two? all the games have been great. especially when its just you, a buddy, and a bong. its really one of the most underrated games out there. although the online server is very laggy sometimes

Tricto · 02-08-2010, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowmayne

You clearly have no idea what your talking about. The aiming takes skill. You have to know how to control your recoil and shoot in bursts just like you would in any real life situation. It's not for everyone, clearly, but its not a "bullshit aiming system" where only the first bullet goes where you want.

ProMod has nothing to do with rather CS or CSS dieing which they aren't anytime soon. ProMods aim is to bring both communities together, which with their newest 1.4 beta I've heard its getting close to being finished. Both games still have a rather large competitive scene, still big LAN competitions being held for both games, and I'm combined theres still easily over 1 million active players, I think valve has stats you can see.

Again, just because you can't aim and would rather spray wildly instead of taking the time to actually learn to point and click, does not mean something is bullshit. You my friend, just suck.

Oh btw waves, I was 1 playoff game away from making Invite in CSS, finished main 15-5, open season before that 10-2, season before that I think 9-2, so its pretty crazy adding up 3 seasons of play and only having 9 losses. This was back a year to two years ago when cal was still alive though. Shit has gone kinda downhill as far as a lot of cheaters in league play these days. Other than that theres still a few good pay to play leagues like CEVO and ESEA out there.

/end nerd rant

thank you for going /high and mighty too.
you don't know how i played it just because YOU played it a lot. "just because you're a nerd who masturbates 12 and plays CS 12 does not mean the aiming system isn't.." see i can do that too.
seriously though, i got no beef with you, just with CS

Also, i read that ProMod was essentially supposed to make CS immortal in the sense of: no matter how many incarnations of the game come out, (CSS for instance) they will mod the game to be the same gameplay as 1.6 but with updated graphics. Any of that true?

Flamingnun · 02-08-2010, 06:55 PM

I bought the first Army Of Two and returned it to the store within like 12 hours, it was that bad. The like main feature of the game was sticking chrome and diamonds all over your guns lol.

02-08-2010, 02:11 PM	#81 (permalink)
Waves Duderino Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: chiburbs Posts: 15,475 Thanks: 991 Thanked 4,021 Times in 2,219 Posts	im so glad ive never played that game. il stick to cod4 and dedicated servers. at least you could shoot down helis :P __________________ On this life that we call home The years go fast and the days go so slow

02-08-2010, 02:25 PM	#83 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 10,465 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 3,130 Times in 1,873 Posts	I think you'd like killzone 2 waves. No airstrikes, it's got an emphasis on a tactical approach, the grenades are not as deadly, and it's actually rather hard to score a 1-hit kill - or more like a half a second kill as it is in COD. You actually have to lead your target if you want to kill them effectively. And although the guns aren't 'real' since it's a sci-fi game, they feel heavy and badass like real weapons. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

02-08-2010, 02:27 PM	#84 (permalink)
Flamingnun Shpadoinkle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: roflmao Posts: 17,538 Thanks: 1,046 Thanked 2,611 Times in 1,178 Posts	Rofl get one of the original rainbow six's, or Ghost Recon's if you want a tactical shooter. Nothing mentioned above is remotely tactical. __________________

02-08-2010, 02:31 PM	#85 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 10,465 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 3,130 Times in 1,873 Posts	Hey man there's at least a few modicums of tacticlyness in killzone 2. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

02-08-2010, 02:35 PM	#86 (permalink)
Flamingnun Shpadoinkle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: roflmao Posts: 17,538 Thanks: 1,046 Thanked 2,611 Times in 1,178 Posts	As tactical as an arena shooter can get. __________________

02-08-2010, 02:13 PM	#82 (permalink)
~~SpankyMcLankey~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,310 Thanks: 1,748 Thanked 1,063 Times in 703 Posts	yeah i like shooting planes and helis down with the stinger. i've gotten a tripply kill with the javelin before just randomly shooting it across the map. so funny!

02-08-2010, 02:37 PM	#87 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	what shooting game have you not had to aim in? aside from fallout 3 if you count it as a shooter the air support is kinda gay but you can make yourself impervious to most of it with cold blooded (can they still see you with the ac130?). the nuke comes 25 kills in a single spawn. i think the game is balanced rather well. you have to keep on your toes for the unexpected while trying to do unexpected things to get an edge. i'm new to this shit though. . . custom classes makes me feel like i'm a caveman walking into an unguarded military depot. so while i can see the old hat in it for you dedicated gamers out there, it's still exciting as fuck for me __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

02-08-2010, 03:12 PM	#88 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 10,465 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 3,130 Times in 1,873 Posts	Most shooters controls feel like point and click, with pin-point reactivity between the controls (be it mouse or stick) and your crosshair, whereas killzone 2 implemented a little physics into the actual aiming process. You can't flick your aim back and forth instantly as if you're waving a gun around in zero grav, there is a delay as your 'arms' compensate for the interta of waving a big heavy gun around. That's more or less what I meant. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

02-08-2010, 03:19 PM	#89 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	yeah you can't really do that in mw2 either. it's hard to hit anyone without aiming down the sight, and not only does that take longer to do depending on the weight of your gun but your aim also moves much slower while doing so. it's taken some adjusting but i really like it __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

02-08-2010, 04:04 PM	#90 (permalink)
Waves Duderino Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: chiburbs Posts: 15,475 Thanks: 991 Thanked 4,021 Times in 2,219 Posts	^agreed except quake 3. as far as shooters go quake 3 was the ultimate arena game. that game is all about aim and reaction whereas cs is about teamwork and tactics. i really enjoy playing at a bit higher of a skill level than random deathmatch games. to me theres nothin better than getting to know a cool group of people on the internet and pwning other teams with them with your tactics. i never played cs on cal but played cod since day 1 and that game got pretty popular at its peak. it had an invite league i was a part of and was also featured in a cpl. good times but i could never get that involved in a video game these days. it actually tought me alot of useful skills applicable in real life too that you wouldnt learn from random deathmatching, like how to work with other people as a team and stuff. __________________ On this life that we call home The years go fast and the days go so slow Last edited by Waves; 02-08-2010 at 04:09 PM.

02-08-2010, 05:50 PM	#96 (permalink)
Puffman LeavesOfGrassMyAss! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 6,508 Thanks: 514 Thanked 220 Times in 151 Posts	these games debates are about as inane/pointless as the console wars, its all a matter of personal preference. back to mw2 discussion, i think its good that the knife has at least SOME drawback. it is pretty fuckin deadly as is. its like when the bitch comes out from around the corner right as your trying to throw a frag. im gonna add u on ps3 bigspliffsmoker

02-08-2010, 06:37 PM	#98 (permalink)
pacman lets get tropical Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: florida Posts: 726 Thanks: 60 Thanked 193 Times in 143 Posts	does anyone play Army of Two? all the games have been great. especially when its just you, a buddy, and a bong. its really one of the most underrated games out there. although the online server is very laggy sometimes

02-08-2010, 06:55 PM	#100 (permalink)
Flamingnun Shpadoinkle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: roflmao Posts: 17,538 Thanks: 1,046 Thanked 2,611 Times in 1,178 Posts	I bought the first Army Of Two and returned it to the store within like 12 hours, it was that bad. The like main feature of the game was sticking chrome and diamonds all over your guns lol. __________________

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