Man in Black

thanks for ruining the thread.

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fenderbender

putting the kid in jail at this time WILL result in one fucked up adult, regardless of how or why he got put in there. There is no rehabilitation.

The only two logical choices i see are kill the kid or put him in therapy.

That being said im against killing for killing because as willie said.. state sponsored murder is no more just then murder murder.

How to deal with people after they commit acts such as murder is something ive never been able to come to a conclusion about.

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SpankyMcLankey

yeah one of my friends said he should just be put in a mental hospital for the rest of his life. that's almost worse than prison. lol

Grieves

just give everyone the relief they need...

put him down...

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Rubix

any predictions on what will happen as far as a plead? conviction? sentence?

I predict he will plead not guilty and will be out at age 38....

Great to see some good debate....shows the true yahookan side of things

thanks for all the replies

stateofkane

I'll help you with this; kill them. Capital punishment isn't about vengence. They don't suffer anymore... It's all about reducing human garbage and not having to pay for some piece of trash to be in jail. They will commit again and have to go back.

Edit- Therapy doesn't work for most sane people. How can you expect it to work for some 12 year old vermin. It is a travesty for society that we would spend all that money when we could just terminate their existence.

Rubix

you didn't actually say that...i'll help you....the appeals process for most executions almost ALWAYS costs more-not even mentioning a maximum security type facility.

I don't like the death penalty. It makes much more sense to me to make the sinners' rot in a pen vs being put out their misery.

SoK, please tell me you're better than to say such inane remarks

!!!!!Why am i even wasting my breath, qft

my_scatterheart

Let's be logical. You can spout age brackets of development you heard on the news as much as you'd like ...it doesn't really make your case any better. The first rule of child psychology is that it's on a child to child basis. You don't just slap down some age and say "He couldn't have known yet." His thought processes and recognition of death are totally dependent on his life. What he's already been through. There are plenty of children MUCH younger than fucking 12 that fully understand the concept of death. Why? Because they've already experienced it. Any speculation is just speculation, there's no right answer cuz no one here knows the kid. so just shh

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Cerpin Taxt

A-fucking-men.

You murder a pregnant woman at 12, try to hide evidence, and calmly stroll onto the bus at school...!?

Whether or not the kid's upbringing had anything to do with it is a moot point; what's done is done and the kid should rot.

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Sir-Ex

what if the woman was carrying the spawn of Satan himself? And the boy was just a failed attempt with the wrong woman? What if his father is trying again as we speak, and he's finally got his mutinous demon spawn out of the way?? WHAT THEN!?

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Cerpin Taxt

I can't be certain... but I DO know that Tim Tebow would still be very disappointed.

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Man in Black

lol I didn't hear anything on the news. I wasn't trying to sound all lofty and shit I just wanted to add another facet to the conversation and leave room for possibilities.

yeah I was talking out of my ass, so just shh

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Mafoo

ya i blame whoever gave him a gun

edit: i dunno the kid did try to cover it up by tossing the shell

its really sad either way

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my_scatterheart

You're lucky then. The news writers here have had this thing with that story where it's all "Here's a picture of a brain! Here's the lobe that is still developing at this age! bliggityfuckinblah"

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Man in Black

terry your new quote is even better than your last, Kant is one of my favorites.

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FourtySecondRip

willie your logic the entire thread is flawed. 9-10 year olds are plenty capable of understanding the consequences of that action. you are assuming that you werent capable around 12 because you cant remember much from that age. just because your memory starts up around 12 doesnt mean thats suddenly the cut off for murdering ppl and having it be ok. i dont remember much from 3-4th grade but i certainly remember getting in trouble alot and trying to lie to get out of it. if your capable of deliberatly lying and covering up the action, like throwing the gun in the fucking woods, then you are 100% responsible and this kid should be executed ASAP

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stateofkane

That's the problem with our justice system. It is not approached from a victim's rights standpoint. A typical psychiatrist, if a judge, would send an intelligent 12 year old up to the joint, and let a mentally deficient one go free or put him in therapy; for the same crime!

EVERYONE should be held to the same standard. It's true that some kids and adults don't have the capacity to know the impact of their crime, and it shouldn't matter.

my_scatterheart

nice edit, fag

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SpankyMcLankey

yeah that's where I was going with it too, but no one really understood what I was trying to say..


thank you.

shakeNbake06

He needs to be tried as an adult. If you remember when you were twelve, you'd remember that you had a complete understanding of what death is, and how a shotgun blast to the head of a pregnant mother would result in it.. You knew what right and wrong was, and that murder (of a mother and a child!) is the worst form of WRONG. Let it be an example for all the other psychopath kids; you can't just a get a free pass after taking a life just because your not legally an adult in this country. "oh ya i heard on the tv we can kill people and not get punished!" There are some really smart 12 year old kids and some really dumb ones, just like adults.. Some adults have the brain capacity of a 12 year old.. Should they be able to get away with murder? Any human being that would be able to commit that act, should be dealt with accordingly..