Overactive bladder, IBS and shiiii

Rubix · 07-06-2010, 02:04 AM

WTF, my parents have gotten up like half a dozen times since midnight

Needn some opium tincture or somethin' FUKC

I gave my mom a vicodin and she didn't shit for two days. So she went back to what the thinks is better, shitting 6-8 times a day for many months now. Going from doctor to doctor of whatever to try to rid bad bacteria, or candida, her and I have seen a dozen or so doctors since Jan. Mine for my back spasms, and her for her diarrhea.

Grieves · 07-06-2010, 02:21 AM

my_scatterheart · 07-06-2010, 09:05 AM

she probably doesn't eat well.

catastrophe · 07-06-2010, 01:02 PM

Processed food does not count as a meal, imo

**~~Dantastic~~** · 07-06-2010, 01:05 PM

Probiotic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Captain Cannabis · 07-06-2010, 01:14 PM

geeno challenge

Rubix · 07-06-2010, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my_scatterheart

she probably doesn't eat well.

she eats rudiculously healthy and that's the fucked up thing. Everything is organic and Now is abstaining from gluten. She's taken lots of probiotic pills and drinks too

**~~Dantastic~~** · 07-06-2010, 02:24 PM

Large amounts of hot sauce have been known to clear out someones digestive system of parasites and such. maybe try that?

**Mafoo** · 07-06-2010, 02:31 PM

rubix i remember you posted a pic saying your mom likes pills. iirc they were dietary supplements and those kinds of pills (could be wrong here). honestly those supplements can be pretty dangerous(high dosages of pure vitamins are hard on the insides) and i would imagine could definitely lead to some inflamation in the digestive tract

does she take alot of vitamins and supplements? that might be irritating things

Rubix · 07-06-2010, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafoo

rubix i remember you posted a pic saying your mom likes pills. iirc they were dietary supplements and those kinds of pills (could be wrong here). honestly those supplements can be pretty dangerous(high dosages of pure vitamins are hard on the insides) and i would imagine could definitely lead to some inflamation in the digestive tract

does she take alot of vitamins and supplements? that might be irritating things

I used to think so but I doubt it. She's realy persistent about the quality of her goods. Pretty much all capsules except for the fish oil. I know that many vitamins like centrum are rock hard and do not even break down.

**Mafoo** · 07-06-2010, 03:40 PM

i guess all you can be is careful

just know that none of those vitamins/ supplements are required to be FDA approved so there can be some shady stuff out there. i actually saw a ginseng, or some odd herbal supplement, after being tested in a university food lab they found out it was mostly saw dust

The Rev · 07-06-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Grieves

This, this right here, is why I will always assert that Grieves is a genius.

The Rev

Štulic · 07-06-2010, 05:03 PM

Why would you give her opiates that cross the blood-brain barrier if there are others freely available OTC?
Like Imodium (Loperamide)?

Geeno · 07-06-2010, 07:02 PM

Organic is mostly a scam anyways

Rubix · 07-06-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mafoo

i guess all you can be is careful

just know that none of those vitamins/ supplements are required to be FDA approved so there can be some shady stuff out there. i actually saw a ginseng, or some odd herbal supplement, after being tested in a university food lab they found out it was mostly saw dust

I Couldnt disagree any more. The FDA loves to create studies showing the extremely misconstrued "effects" or lack of, when it comes to vitamins and supplements. They have Every intentions of keeping high quality supplements from consumers.

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Codex Alimentarius (World Food Code)
Summarized in 7 Points

See Dr. Rima’s recent hard-hitting video expose on Codex’s plans for nutrients – The Theater of the Absurd:

YouTube - The Theatre of the Absurd: Codex Report #4

HealthFreedomUSA.org , the website of the Natural Solutions Foundation, is beholden to no one: our only interest is health freedom. Rima E. Laibow, MD, successful natural medicine physician since the 1970s, has studied 16,000 pages of Codex documentation. Her conclusion is that people who say that Codex is “consumer protection”, “voluntary”, or “harmless” are, at best, seriously mistaken.

Codex in Depth: In-Depth Codex Alimentarius Information

1) Started in 1962 by UN, Imposed by WTO Sanctions
Codex Alimentarius was created in 1962 as a trade Commission by the UN to control the international trade of food. Its initial intentions may have been altruistic but it has been taken over by corporate interests, most notably the pharmaceutical, pesticide, biotechnology and chemical industries.

Codex Alimentarius is backed up by the crippling trade sanctions of the World Trade Organization (WTO). Any non Codex-compliant nation would face huge economic punishment since they would automatically lose in any food-trade dispute with a Codex compliant country.

2) “Nutrients are Toxins” Is Junk Science
Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC) has two committees which impact nutrition.

One of them, the “Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses” (CCNFSDU), is chaired by Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, a physician who believes that nutrition has no role in health. This is the “top-guy” for Codex nutritional policy, and he has stated that “nutrition is not relevant to health”.

As unbelievable as it may sound, Dr. Grossklaus actually declared nutrients to be toxins in 1994 and instituted the use of toxicology (Risk Assessment) to prevent nutrients from having any impact on humans who take supplements! It is worth mentioning that Dr. Grossklaus happens to own the Risk Assessment company advising CCNFSDU and Codex on this issue. This company makes money when its toxicology services are used for the “assessment” of nutrients. Here in the U.S. we call that a “conflict of interest”.

Codex is made up of thousands of standards and guidelines. One of them, the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline (VMG), is designed to permit only ultra low doses of vitamins and minerals (and make clinically effective nutrients illegal). How can the VMG restrict dosages of vitamins and minerals? By using Risk Assessment (toxicology) to assess nutrients.

While Risk Assessment is a legitimate science (it is a branch of toxicology), it is the wrong science for assessing nutrients! In fact, in this context, it is actually junk science. Biochemistry, the science of life processes, is the correct science for assessing nutrients. Codex Alimentarius treats nutrients as toxins, which is literally insane.

Nutrients are not toxins – they are essential for life.

No matter what Codex Alimentarius officials say to convince you that Risk Assessment is a “science-based” approach to nutrients, it is not.

And it is worth repeating that Dr. Grossklaus, the head of Codex Alimentarius, owns the Risk Assessment company advising CCNFSDU and Codex on the “benefit” of using Risk Assessment to assess nutrients.

3) Not Consumer Protection – That’s Propaganda
Contrary to the propaganda, Codex Alimentarius has nothing to do with consumer protection. Nothing! Codex is about the economic ambitions of multi-national corporations, in particular, the pharmaceutical industry.

Using their multi billion-dollar marketing budgets, these industries have launched a massive media propaganda campaign to paint Codex Alimentarius as a benevolent tool of “consumer protection”, as well as to negatively taint the image of natural health options and mislead people to fear them as “dangerous”, so they will take drugs (which really are dangerous). Natural health products and options have an amazing safety record and are remarkably effective, especially when compared to pharmaceutical drugs.

Unfortunately, one-time defenders of health freedom such as National Nutritional Foods Association (NNFA) and Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN) have joined the propaganda bandwagon and are spreading false information saying that Codex Alimentarius is either “harmless” or benevolent “consumer protection”. Neither is true.

The membership of these one-time defenders of health freedom has become permeated by people from the pharmaceutical industry (for example, CRN counts as its members corporations such as Monsanto® and Bayer®).

4) Codex: Serious Threat to Health and Health Freedom
If Codex Alimentarius is implemented in the United States of America, therapeutic dosages of vitamins and minerals (and all other nutrients soon to follow) will become unavailable because they will literally become illegal.

Here’s how it would work, in a nut-shell:

Due to the junk science use of Risk Assessment (toxicology) to assess supposedly toxic nutrients, a false belief is being engineered saying that “nutritional supplements are dangerous to people’s health”.

Using this false belief generates calls to “protect” people from these “toxic” nutrients. After the calls come the bills to set ultra low permissible dosages (remember, nutrients are deemed “dangerous toxins” under this false belief). If enough of us and our Congressional delegates buy this nonsense, we and Congress would blindly comply with Codex Alimentarius’ VMG. And blind compliance is what the industries behind Codex Alimentarius intend.

Blind compliance goes hand-in-hand with lack of activism. This lack of activism allows our protective laws, classifying nutrients as foods with no upper limits (such as DSHEA), to be easily repealed and replaced with draconian laws to classify nutrients as toxins. And “harmonization” with the pro-illness, pro-pharmaceutical industry Vitamin and Mineral Guideline is there to fill the void.

Only intentionally ineffective, ultra low dose supplements would be legal, with or without a prescription, on the VMG list. If enough people do not take action, we can expect to watch nutritional supplement manufacturers and, thus health food stores, to go out of business, in a domino effect. The only player left standing would be Big Pharma.

Therapeutic grade vitamins, minerals, and amino acids would be eliminated from the marketplace (although a few low-dose supplements would be allowed by Codex, as a symbolic measure to avoid suspicion about their ulterior motive).

Natural health professionals would lose the tools of their trade (nutritional supplements) and health conscious people would be unable to choose natural health options for health promotion and disease treatment.

And that is, in a nutshell, how Codex Alimentarius is poised to make Natural and Nutritional Medicine (NNM) disappear from the legal health world and go underground. Who benefits? Big Pharma.

It would take a few years for the above scenarios to be feasible (Codex Alimentarius is meant to go into full global effect by 2010). The slower the process takes, the less alarmed people will be. That’s probably the logic of the architects of Codex Alimentarius.

5) Serves Economic Interests of Sickness Industries Through WTO and Napoleonic Code
More and more people are turning to natural health products globally. The “wellness” trend is a major trend in today’s society. The more natural health products people use, the fewer drugs they buy. The pharmaceutical industry, which is part of the “Sickness Industry”, fears the inevitable shift toward natural health care.

Instead of accepting the will of the people and rethinking the future of the pharmaceutical industry, the industry has decided upon an unethical course of action: the use of deception and deceit to eliminate natural health products completely.

Codex Alimentarius is a shrewd vehicle for protecting the pharmaceutical industry from the loss of income it stands to suffer due to the inevitable growth of natural healthcare.

Codex Alimentarius is the resistance of the dinosaurs to inevitability: the burgeoning desire of humanity for a healthier, saner, and more sustainable way of life.

The World Trade Organization (WTO) intends to force Codex Alimentarius upon the nations of the world, including the U.S. This would be done under the threat of massive economic sanctions if WTO-countries do not comply with Codex Alimentarius.

Furthermore, Codex is based in the Napoleonic Code, not Common Law. That means that under Codex Alimentarius, anything not explicitly permitted is forbidden. Under Common Law, we hold that anything not explicitly forbidden is permitted. The difference is the difference between health freedom and health tyranny. Codex Alimentarius would be able to ban supplements by default.

6) DSHEA Protects America From Codex Alimentarius
The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA, 1994), an American law classifying our supplements and herbs as foods (which can have no upper limit set on their use), was passed by unanimous Congressional consent following massive grass-roots support organized by health food stores. Millions of American activists told Congress, in no uncertain terms:

“Protect nutritional supplements as foods or we will remove you from office”.

Congress listened and carried out the will of the people.

DSHEA appropriately classifies nutritional supplements as foods which can have no upper limits set on their use. DSHEA recognizes that people use nutrients safely to deal with their individually differing needs for nutrients. The concept of biochemical individuality means that people have different needs for nutrients at different times. Are nutrients toxins? No, they are not toxins. They are substances essential to prevent, treat and cure any chronic condition, in differing doses at different times in different people.

DSHEA protects the US from Codex Alimentarius’ deadly Vitamin and Mineral Guideline. We must reach our Congressional members, educate them about the facts on Codex Alimentarius and direct them to vote against anything that would threaten DSHEA.

Congress holds the keys to our health freedom. And it is their job to listen to us. Let’s not allow cynicism to tell us otherwise. We did it for DSHEA in 1994. We can do it again this year.

7) Your Action is Needed Now!
DSHEA is under significant legislative attack right now. Your letter-writing is crucial: if the members of Congress know that voting against health freedom means losing their jobs come election time, they will listen. Our job is to make sure they get the message loud and clear. Take action via our 3 easy steps and send personalized emails to Congress right now.

After taking action on HealthFreedomUSA.org , consider getting together with others in your area and visit your Congressional members in their home offices. If we wait, we lose our health freedoms. Once we “HARMonize” with Codex, by the way, we no longer have the right, while we belong to the WTO, to repeal or change that “HARMonization”!

Conclusion
The objective of the pro-Codex Alimentarius multi nationals is to “boil the frog slowly” so that we do not wake up to it in time to avoid Codex.

Once we have “HARMonize” to Codex Alimentarius, as long as we are in the WTO, we cannot amend or change what we’ve been “HARMonize” to.

Codex Alimentarius will go into global implementation by December 31, 2009, unless We, the People, avert it. We must act now because right now, with $758 Million spent on declared Congressional lobbying by Big Pharma last year, there are members of Congress who are trying to overturn DSHEA and allow Pharma-friendly free reign for Codex. If protective laws like DSHEA are destroyed, the sanctioning power of the autocratic WTO kicks in, and it will be impossible to get out from under Codex Alimentarius. We can protect our access to high potency nutrients and stave off an adulterated food supply only by putting pressure on Congress.

If you would like more in-depth information about Codex Alimentarius before taking action, please click here.

DID YOU KNOW:

The Natural Solutions Foundation briefed then President of India, Abdul Kalam, in a lengthy private meeting on the threat presented by Codex and advised him on protective action India should take. Passage of a protective food bill followed shortly after our meeting.

there really is a difference between syntheic and non synthetic vitamins. I would never buy vitamins from a non researched reseller. Purity products and Swanson are good. Like the fish oil production process is vital for proper absorbption. Depends on if it came from farm fish or ocean et etc....

my_scatterheart · 07-06-2010, 07:19 PM

Yeah, you could read all that shit.
...or just eat well and varied.

**~~Dantastic~~** · 07-06-2010, 07:22 PM

It makes me sad when someone posts something as awesome as rubix just did and people blow it off because its "to much reading".

It makes me very sad indeed.

Thanks for the awesome post rubix.

This all goes back to my thread about dumbing down america which everyone should read along with rubix's post right there about the govt trying to keep vitamins and supplements down.

myxomatosis · 07-06-2010, 07:27 PM

Seemed pretty clear she was saying that barring unforeseen circumstances you don't need a bunch of nonsense and Activia but rather just a balanced diet.

my_scatterheart · 07-06-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dantastic

It makes me sad when someone posts something as awesome as rubix just did and people blow it off because its "to much reading".

It makes me very sad indeed.

Thanks for the awesome post rubix.

This all goes back to my thread about dumbing down america which everyone should read along with rubix's post right there about the govt trying to keep vitamins and supplements down.

It makes me very sad when people think more wordz = better. I did read it, smartass. Doesn't mean shit. omg conspiracy. Surprised, really? They can keep their vitamins.

I'll have my leafy greens instead.

**~~Dantastic~~** · 07-06-2010, 07:33 PM

Apparently you didnt read the article I posted that says that is crap.

Eating a balanced diet of poison, is still eating poison.

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Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,651 Times in 1,697 Posts	rubix i remember you posted a pic saying your mom likes pills. iirc they were dietary supplements and those kinds of pills (could be wrong here). honestly those supplements can be pretty dangerous(high dosages of pure vitamins are hard on the insides) and i would imagine could definitely lead to some inflamation in the digestive tract does she take alot of vitamins and supplements? that might be irritating things __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

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~~Dantastic~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: A suburb Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 285 Thanked 325 Times in 219 Posts	Large amounts of hot sauce have been known to clear out someones digestive system of parasites and such. maybe try that?

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Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,651 Times in 1,697 Posts	i guess all you can be is careful just know that none of those vitamins/ supplements are required to be FDA approved so there can be some shady stuff out there. i actually saw a ginseng, or some odd herbal supplement, after being tested in a university food lab they found out it was mostly saw dust __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

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my_scatterheart Today, I am alive. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 3,565 Thanks: 1,486 Thanked 3,324 Times in 1,870 Posts	Yeah, you could read all that shit. ...or just eat well and varied. __________________ Be mindful even if your mind is full. -J. De La Vega

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~~Dantastic~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: A suburb Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 285 Thanked 325 Times in 219 Posts	It makes me sad when someone posts something as awesome as rubix just did and people blow it off because its "to much reading". It makes me very sad indeed. Thanks for the awesome post rubix. This all goes back to my thread about dumbing down america which everyone should read along with rubix's post right there about the govt trying to keep vitamins and supplements down.

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myxomatosis life is music Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: between a pair of headphones Posts: 3,917 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 933 Times in 597 Posts	Seemed pretty clear she was saying that barring unforeseen circumstances you don't need a bunch of nonsense and Activia but rather just a balanced diet. __________________ oh sometimes the blues is just a passing bird and why can't that always be tossing aside from your birches crown just enough dark to see how you're the light over me last.fm blog deal (updated 12/22/11)

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~~Dantastic~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: A suburb Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 285 Thanked 325 Times in 219 Posts	Apparently you didnt read the article I posted that says that is crap. Eating a balanced diet of poison, is still eating poison.

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