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Old 09-25-2010, 06:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Awesome suicide of the day

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how long do u guys think this took to write?

do u agree with his conclusion?

is life meaningless?

i love suicide notes w/ bibliographies. wonder if he used easybib.

shit this stuff is almost too smart for me...

good thing i took philosophy @ comm. college

he basically killed himself as an experiment in nihilism.

what a weird way to go.

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Old 09-25-2010, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here is his conclusion after all this existential angst, btw:

From a Darwinistic view, every capacity for emotion
evolved as a product of genetic adaptation. Emotions, then,
are biochemical-based illusions that evolved to propagate
genes. Pleasure, happiness, emotions, and desire: these are
the evolutionary tricks that promoted the survival of our
ancestors. The “happiness” and “sadness” of present day
humans are the genetically adaptations of generations of
ancestors.
This is “happiness”, the great goal of humanity has been
striving for: a particular configuration of biochemical
reactions. Why, not, then, drug one’s self into a state of
“happiness”? If evolution had taken a different turn at some
early point, a completely different configuration of stimuli
would produce biochemical reactions of “happiness”. It just
so happens, however, that evolutionary path taken by
innumerable ancestors yields these particular, incidental,
prejudices of human nature.
Wild, untamed sexual passion can clearly be adaptive for
propagating the selfish genes. The genetic program for these
“romantic” behaviors, like clockwork, are passed on,
generation after generation. Ancestor after ancestor executed
the same genetic program for romantic sexual passion, and
contemporary humans are only repeating the script. The
entire catalog of romantic behaviors from love to selective
altruism has its basics encoded in the code of the selfish
genes. Even as condoms and birth control subvert the genes
themselves, people are still content to obey their genes
towards genetically maladaptive ends. Such people
“outsmart” their genes, only to be duped into belief that
their instincts and emotions were something more
manipulations by their genes in the first place.
For some, the meaninglessness gleaned from a scientific
view of life leads to nausea, angst, and nihilistic despair. I
reject this attitude on the grounds that nausea, angst, and
nihilistic despair also originate in material reactions in the
brain. What does despair mean to someone who interprets
that emotion as a chemical reaction in the brain? The process
of disillusionment can also be disillusioned and deaestheticized.
If science is to continue its purposeless advance, then
curiosity, wonder, and happiness must be disenchanted and
vivisected. Science and philosophy might be motivated by a
sense of poetic wonder, but what happens when wonder,
curiosity, and the joy of understanding have been reduced
and explained in terms of chemical reactions of the brain. Is
it possible to synthesize this knowledge with the experience
of it? How far is one willing to lie to one’s self in the belief of
the goodness of the truth when science has conquered the
non-scientific behaviors that motivate science?
If we have a technical understanding of the biochemical
basis of the experience of curiosity, wonder, amazement,
awe, and mystery themselves, does this diminish our
experience of them? Do these experiences fall into the same
category as myths, lies, and illusions? What rational basis is
there to treat them any differently? What then, does it mean
to lead a “rational life”? If science and knowledge are
supposedly pursued for its own sake, then how about the
knowledge that life has no discernable purpose, knowledge
that happiness, wonder, and curiosity are based in material
organizations that were likely selected for their evolutionary
survival value, and knowledge that there is no
fundamentally rational basis for choosing life over death.
Nihilism, noted Friedrich Nietzsche, “represents the
ultimate logical conclusion of our great values and
ideals”.1432 This is the bankrupt, philosophical disaster area
the West dwells in. I see no “bottom”, no limits to stop the
freefall into value nothingness. Implicit in nihilism is the
collapse of the entire human cause. The ultimate logical
conclusion of Western values is the rational self-destruction
of the West.
Is this absurd? If this is absurd then it must also be absurd
that I rage at the entire cosmos for having no ultimate
meaning.
But there is no reason to be pessimistic. There is no
justification whatsoever for a negative attitude! There is no
justification whatsoever for a positive attitude! There is no
justification whatsoever for a neutral attitude!
Who knows what will happen with certainty? I could be
strolling down the street, being beautiful, on my way to kill
myself, when suddenly I am run over by a bus.
But wait a minute. Why am I doing this? Ah, yes, now I
remember the punchline:
I’ll try anything once!
There is nothing to take seriously!

(tl,dr: nothing means anything, im going to shoot myself)
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Old 09-25-2010, 07:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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if only everyone was that considerate...
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Old 09-25-2010, 07:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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it does scare me a bit that smart people are killing themselves for being too smart. you know this planet is in trouble when the people who really understand it just go "fuck it" and blast their brains out.

or maybe he was smart and also depressed due to a hormonal imbalance or some shit and this is just the end result of his biological processes taking their toll on his mental state.

or maybe he was hired to be the caretaker of a hotel deep in the mountains, and he just went crazy from all the stress + weird twin ghost girls riding their bikes around while he was trying to get his philosophy on

pretty interesting case nonetheless
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Old 09-25-2010, 07:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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we have reached the peak that they explain in the beginning of idiocracy...

the dumb are reproducing at such a rate that it is actually countering natural selection...
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My favorite suicide note was that of George Sanders which read, simply:

"I'm Bored."

That really says it all.



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Old 09-25-2010, 09:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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"is this absurd?". funny, I was asking myself that very same question last night.
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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he makes some good fucking points. i just dont know if killing yourself is a good solution to some of those good points.
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yeah p much
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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^actually a decent comment, bro

very relevant.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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the fuck is this shit? you expect me to read all that shit?
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no one expects you to do anything you don't wanna do so instead of bitching about it just stfu and don't post in the thread.
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the fuck is this shit? why didn't he just kill himself mid-sentence
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I bet it took him a good year to complete it. just because he probably worked on it very meticulously. i don't think life is meaningless, but it sure boosts your spirits to believe in God.
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you answered your own question. it was obviously the man's magnum opus.
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Seems like a lot of meaning was put into defining meaninglessness.

It's sad and I doubt he killed himself solely for philosophical issues.



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I don't thinks the opposite of God is meaninglessness. I think the disambiguated favouring of God would be Meaning, and that is how I'd carve it up.
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i think lucfier is real.

like he actually walked the planet
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Looks like he needed a connection. To anything/one.
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or maybe he was smart and also depressed due to a hormonal imbalance or some shit and this is just the end result of his biological processes taking their toll on his mental state.
there's a point he covered early on in the essay

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Seems like a lot of meaning was put into defining meaninglessness.
once again, all the same
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