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Awesome suicide of the day
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how long do u guys think this took to write? do u agree with his conclusion? is life meaningless? i love suicide notes w/ bibliographies. wonder if he used easybib. shit this stuff is almost too smart for me... good thing i took philosophy @ comm. college he basically killed himself as an experiment in nihilism. what a weird way to go.
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Here is his conclusion after all this existential angst, btw:
From a Darwinistic view, every capacity for emotion evolved as a product of genetic adaptation. Emotions, then, are biochemical-based illusions that evolved to propagate genes. Pleasure, happiness, emotions, and desire: these are the evolutionary tricks that promoted the survival of our ancestors. The “happiness” and “sadness” of present day humans are the genetically adaptations of generations of ancestors. This is “happiness”, the great goal of humanity has been striving for: a particular configuration of biochemical reactions. Why, not, then, drug one’s self into a state of “happiness”? If evolution had taken a different turn at some early point, a completely different configuration of stimuli would produce biochemical reactions of “happiness”. It just so happens, however, that evolutionary path taken by innumerable ancestors yields these particular, incidental, prejudices of human nature. Wild, untamed sexual passion can clearly be adaptive for propagating the selfish genes. The genetic program for these “romantic” behaviors, like clockwork, are passed on, generation after generation. Ancestor after ancestor executed the same genetic program for romantic sexual passion, and contemporary humans are only repeating the script. The entire catalog of romantic behaviors from love to selective altruism has its basics encoded in the code of the selfish genes. Even as condoms and birth control subvert the genes themselves, people are still content to obey their genes towards genetically maladaptive ends. Such people “outsmart” their genes, only to be duped into belief that their instincts and emotions were something more manipulations by their genes in the first place. For some, the meaninglessness gleaned from a scientific view of life leads to nausea, angst, and nihilistic despair. I reject this attitude on the grounds that nausea, angst, and nihilistic despair also originate in material reactions in the brain. What does despair mean to someone who interprets that emotion as a chemical reaction in the brain? The process of disillusionment can also be disillusioned and deaestheticized. If science is to continue its purposeless advance, then curiosity, wonder, and happiness must be disenchanted and vivisected. Science and philosophy might be motivated by a sense of poetic wonder, but what happens when wonder, curiosity, and the joy of understanding have been reduced and explained in terms of chemical reactions of the brain. Is it possible to synthesize this knowledge with the experience of it? How far is one willing to lie to one’s self in the belief of the goodness of the truth when science has conquered the non-scientific behaviors that motivate science? If we have a technical understanding of the biochemical basis of the experience of curiosity, wonder, amazement, awe, and mystery themselves, does this diminish our experience of them? Do these experiences fall into the same category as myths, lies, and illusions? What rational basis is there to treat them any differently? What then, does it mean to lead a “rational life”? If science and knowledge are supposedly pursued for its own sake, then how about the knowledge that life has no discernable purpose, knowledge that happiness, wonder, and curiosity are based in material organizations that were likely selected for their evolutionary survival value, and knowledge that there is no fundamentally rational basis for choosing life over death. Nihilism, noted Friedrich Nietzsche, “represents the ultimate logical conclusion of our great values and ideals”.1432 This is the bankrupt, philosophical disaster area the West dwells in. I see no “bottom”, no limits to stop the freefall into value nothingness. Implicit in nihilism is the collapse of the entire human cause. The ultimate logical conclusion of Western values is the rational self-destruction of the West. Is this absurd? If this is absurd then it must also be absurd that I rage at the entire cosmos for having no ultimate meaning. But there is no reason to be pessimistic. There is no justification whatsoever for a negative attitude! There is no justification whatsoever for a positive attitude! There is no justification whatsoever for a neutral attitude! Who knows what will happen with certainty? I could be strolling down the street, being beautiful, on my way to kill myself, when suddenly I am run over by a bus. But wait a minute. Why am I doing this? Ah, yes, now I remember the punchline: I’ll try anything once! There is nothing to take seriously! (tl,dr: nothing means anything, im going to shoot myself)
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if only everyone was that considerate...
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it does scare me a bit that smart people are killing themselves for being too smart. you know this planet is in trouble when the people who really understand it just go "fuck it" and blast their brains out.
or maybe he was smart and also depressed due to a hormonal imbalance or some shit and this is just the end result of his biological processes taking their toll on his mental state. or maybe he was hired to be the caretaker of a hotel deep in the mountains, and he just went crazy from all the stress + weird twin ghost girls riding their bikes around while he was trying to get his philosophy on pretty interesting case nonetheless
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we have reached the peak that they explain in the beginning of idiocracy...
the dumb are reproducing at such a rate that it is actually countering natural selection...
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he makes some good fucking points. i just dont know if killing yourself is a good solution to some of those good points.
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^actually a decent comment, bro
very relevant.
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no one expects you to do anything you don't wanna do so instead of bitching about it just stfu and don't post in the thread.
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the fuck is this shit? why didn't he just kill himself mid-sentence
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I bet it took him a good year to complete it. just because he probably worked on it very meticulously. i don't think life is meaningless, but it sure boosts your spirits to believe in God.
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Seems like a lot of meaning was put into defining meaninglessness.
It's sad and I doubt he killed himself solely for philosophical issues. Rubix: I don't thinks the opposite of God is meaninglessness. I think the disambiguated favouring of God would be Meaning, and that is how I'd carve it up.
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once again, all the same
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