What exactly IS a Sage Tree?!?! - Page 2

kitch · 03-09-2011, 11:27 AM

never mind, totally diff species

butterfly bush (buddleja)

maybe you can see why I was confused tho

**SageTree** · 03-09-2011, 11:32 AM

*edit: you got in there while I was posting, but yes.... I DO see the confusion totally*

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Originally Posted by kitch

there's some bush that looks very similiar to that around here. Monarchs and other butterflies love it. We call them butterfly bushes. I dunno if it's the same thing or not but that's what the pic reminded me of.

Certainly looks a lot like what you're talking about.

Buddleja is the genus you are talking about though I believe, at least, this is commonly what I've heard called 'butterfly' bushes, as they deff. like them.

We used to grow them at the greenhouse I worked at... they are like weeds once they get going, and it's crazy to see how cutting them back hardly phases them. Really fast growers. Good shit. Nice colour choices, all reliable, in my experience. Fairly tolerant of colder zones.

Here's a pic: It's easier to see where the confusion lies in which is which from the pics above...

Cheers
SageTree

kitch · 03-09-2011, 11:42 AM

I can't seem to find a good enough picture to illustrate my point, but there have been times during monarch migration when I've seen dozens of monarchs on a single small buddleja. It's quite the sight to be honest, all the orange and black butterflies on that purple flower bud.

**SageTree** · 03-09-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kitch

I can't seem to find a good enough picture to illustrate my point, but there have been times during monarch migration when I've seen dozens of monarchs on a single small buddleja. It's quite the sight to be honest, all the orange and black butterflies on that purple flower bud.

If you mean to 'illustrate' the picture you're painting there with words... I'll chip in here I have some 'pictures' of what you mean, that I took with my eye camera

I'm not sure what varieties, if there is one over another, that attracts them. I've seen what you're talking about on deep purple as well, although I think on all white would be just as stunning.

Heck... seeing that many butterflies is simple cool enough

**mothernature** · 03-09-2011, 03:12 PM

There is/was a butterfly conservatory in Niagara Falls I went to years ago. It was quite fascinating and wonderful. I almost stepped on one and without thinking, picked it up and moved it off the path. A guard saw me and bitched me out for it (there were signs all over not to touch the butterflies). My kid took a photo of me getting bitched out.

Xil · 03-09-2011, 03:40 PM

we have a butterfly house outside of stl too.
did some comm service there.
was absolutely stunning, actually glad for the opportunity to check it out. big butterflies, small butterflies, giant monarchs landing on grandpas bald head...kids loved that place, all the laughing and pretty colors.
magical place really, i love me some butterflys (dont tell anyone though, they wont think im hard anymore

)

**SageTree** · 03-10-2011, 06:15 AM

Butterflies make me happy!!!!

Thanks for the stories everyone

The Rev · 03-10-2011, 07:37 AM

The Sage Tree is the tree under which I sat for 40 days, meditating, before I found Enlightenment.

The Rev

kitch · 03-10-2011, 12:15 PM

it's funny how arbitrary human taste in beauty is. if a butterfly didn't have colorful wings it would just be an enormous, scary, terrible insect. The colors for the most part are a defense mechanism to let other creatures know that the butteflies taste bad. Yet some how out of that sloppy mess of evolution we got a creature that's breathtaking, stunning dare I say CUTE.

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Originally Posted by SageTree

Vitex agnus-castus known as Chaste trees

so does sage=chaste?

**SageTree** · 03-10-2011, 12:49 PM

Rephrase the question?

Are you asking me is I would swap out 'Sage' for 'Chaste' and see no difference, or that it's a synonym??

I'd look it up, I'm not really sure where or why the common name comes from.

Here is a dictionary version of the word.

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chaste:
1.refraining from sexual intercourse that is regarded as contrary to morality or religion; virtuous.
2.virgin.
3.not engaging in sexual relations; celibate.
4.free from obscenity; decent: chaste conversation.
5.undefiled or stainless: chaste, white snow.
6.pure in style; not excessively ornamented; simple.
7.Obsolete . unmarried.

kitch · 03-10-2011, 12:55 PM

I was trying to be coy I suppose.

really I was asking "is it wrong for a man to want more than one woman to be in love with him at a single time?"

**SageTree** · 03-10-2011, 01:10 PM

"In Love"?

You mean sexual love or what?

Imo, that is a personal question only you can answer.

You could ask yourself 'why' or 'why not' perhaps?

If you are with a partner atm, then, I feel, you have a group conversation on your hands, an agreement or else it's likely you're sneaking around.

Open relationships exist and are a reality.

kitch · 03-10-2011, 01:14 PM

so you're implying that if she's ok with it than there is no sin in the act?

**SageTree** · 03-10-2011, 01:22 PM

Without comment on, implying wrong or right, or what is or isn't a sin or if it even exists, I will say it would be greatly responsible to ALL parties involved if they knew about each other and take it from there.

It's up to you man. I can't pardon or condone here, it's not my sex life, relationships and loved ones.

The Rev · 03-10-2011, 01:50 PM

You two are overthinking this. Just whip it out.

The Rev

**SageTree** · 03-11-2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rev

You two are overthinking this. Just whip it out.

The Rev

Oh man!!!! No comment.

Good luck Kitch. I can't tell you want to do, only what I would/have done, myself. But that doesn't mean it's what YOU should do.

03-09-2011, 03:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
Xil OD'ing on sobriety Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mizzura Posts: 3,334 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 1,158 Times in 717 Posts	we have a butterfly house outside of stl too. did some comm service there. was absolutely stunning, actually glad for the opportunity to check it out. big butterflies, small butterflies, giant monarchs landing on grandpas bald head...kids loved that place, all the laughing and pretty colors. magical place really, i love me some butterflys (dont tell anyone though, they wont think im hard anymore ) __________________ "we'll show these fascists what a couple of hillbillies can do"

03-10-2011, 06:15 AM	#27 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	Butterflies make me happy!!!! Thanks for the stories everyone __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

03-10-2011, 07:37 AM	#28 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,864 Thanks: 5,015 Thanked 5,419 Times in 2,864 Posts	The Sage Tree is the tree under which I sat for 40 days, meditating, before I found Enlightenment. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

03-10-2011, 01:10 PM	#32 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	"In Love"? You mean sexual love or what? Imo, that is a personal question only you can answer. You could ask yourself 'why' or 'why not' perhaps? If you are with a partner atm, then, I feel, you have a group conversation on your hands, an agreement or else it's likely you're sneaking around. Open relationships exist and are a reality. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

03-10-2011, 01:22 PM	#34 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	Without comment on, implying wrong or right, or what is or isn't a sin or if it even exists, I will say it would be greatly responsible to ALL parties involved if they knew about each other and take it from there. It's up to you man. I can't pardon or condone here, it's not my sex life, relationships and loved ones. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

03-09-2011, 03:12 PM	#25 (permalink)
mothernature ancientbongmaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,232 Thanks: 1,201 Thanked 809 Times in 487 Posts	There is/was a butterfly conservatory in Niagara Falls I went to years ago. It was quite fascinating and wonderful. I almost stepped on one and without thinking, picked it up and moved it off the path. A guard saw me and bitched me out for it (there were signs all over not to touch the butterflies). My kid took a photo of me getting bitched out.

03-10-2011, 01:50 PM	#35 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,864 Thanks: 5,015 Thanked 5,419 Times in 2,864 Posts	You two are overthinking this. Just whip it out. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

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