Mercury

This is something that I desperately do and I'm not sure if it's healthy or not. But it's like as soon as I leave the company of other people I immediately turn to a world that absolutely no one knows that I live in. Not like I kill cats or anything but I do convince myself of some crazy shit. Like that the stars really matter and that cough syrup is the path to enlightenment.

WTF is that?

Is it normal? Cause sometimes I feel like if anyone found out then I would surely be labeled a weirdo and no one would trust me again.

The thing is I also feel like everyone does the same thing. Like maybe if I communicate what I do when I'm alone then I would find that everyone else is exactly the same..

All the nuances that I'm obsessed with and all my belief systems are normal. Is it worth the risk to bring it out in the open?

SageTree

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The Rev

We ALL live in our own little worlds. You just do so intentionally.



The Rev

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Qui-Bong Jinn

Sometimes when Im smoking out in the wilderness I'll trip myself out for the lols, it that the same?

Mercury

nope. what do you mean tripping in the wilderness anyway? I smoke in my backyard sometimes and it is trippy but it's also cold, dark and spooky. that is pretty cool actually. but mostly i close my eyes and ignore everything as much as possible.

HTAM

Hey Merc-it's nice the you back in this world.

SageTree

So Merc, what would you say you are trying to escape?

Are we talking about 'fleeing for your life' escape or simple 'don't answer the door for a Jehovah's Witness' level of avoiding?


Basically I'm asking how much of a 'control' issue, if applicable, are we talking about.

There is certainly healthy privacy, but then there is also straight up 'I can't take it' avoiding/escapism.

Your topic of choice is good.

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Mercury

I do feel that it tends towards the unhealthy side.

SageTree

Well, you obviously don't have to discuss it openly.
But consider what you are trying to get away from.
Solitude is OK.
Not being able to handle anything but Solitude is a concern.

In the course of your life have you ever talked to a professional about these feelings?

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Mercury

^^^Don't blow this out of proportion. I'm just tryin to get a thread going.

SageTree

Well, I don't figure that it's trolling when people ask questions. Sorry man.

There isn't anything 'out of proportion' about me trying to read what I figure is a 'real' problem.

Understand the confusion?

Google "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"

Just trying to be of assistance man.

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clive

I dunno dude you probs could do with some professional help from the sounds of things..

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Roach

Like that

they do, but mostly the sun

check with joe rogan on this one.

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John F. Kerry

plz dont drink cough syrup tho

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SageTree

^fer rizzle....

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Waves

thats cuz youve created a facade to interact with others, a type of mask that you put on that conforms to the guidelines of what comprises 'normal' and 'appropriate' behavior. when your by yourself theres no need for the mask, its just you and your ego. but with others you have to constantly be judging your behavior and conforming to some standard that you believe in.

in the end theres no such thing as normal. it doesnt exist. only your ideas of what normality is.

The Ego acts according to the reality principle; i.e. it seeks to please the id’s drive in realistic ways that will benefit in the long term rather than bringing grief.[5]

The Ego comprises that organised part of the personality structure that includes defensive, perceptual, intellectual-cognitive, and executive functions. Conscious awareness resides in the ego, although not all of the operations of the ego are conscious. The ego separates what is real. It helps us to organize our thoughts and make sense of them and the world around us.[1]

According to Freud,

"The ego is that part of the id which has been modified by the direct influence of the external world ... The ego represents what may be called reason and common sense, in contrast to the id, which contains the passions ... in its relation to the id it is like a man on horseback, who has to hold in check the superior strength of the horse; with this difference, that the rider tries to do so with his own strength, while the ego uses borrowed forces."
—Freud, The Ego and the Id (1923)

In Freud's theory, the ego mediates among the id, the super-ego and the external world. Its task is to find a balance between primitive drives and reality (the Ego devoid of morality at this level) while satisfying the id and super-ego. Its main concern is with the individual's safety and allows some of the id's desires to be expressed, but only when consequences of these actions are marginal. Ego defense mechanisms are often used by the ego when id behavior conflicts with reality and either society's morals, norms, and taboos or the individual's expectations as a result of the internalisation of these morals, norms, and their taboos.
"The ego is not sharply separated from the id; its lower portion merges into it... But the repressed merges into the id as well, and is merely a part of it. The repressed is only cut off sharply from the ego by the resistances of repression; it can communicate with the ego through the id." (Sigmund Freud, 1923)

The word ego is taken directly from Latin, where it is the nominative of the first person singular personal pronoun and is translated as "I myself" to express emphasis. The Latin term ego is used in English to translate Freud's German term Das Ich, which literally means "the I".

Ego development is known as the development of multiple processes, cognitive function, defenses, and interpersonal skills or to early adolescence when ego processes are emerged.[5]

In modern English, ego has many meanings. It could mean one’s self-esteem, an inflated sense of self-worth, or in philosophical terms, one’s self. However, according to Freud, the ego is the part of the mind that contains the consciousness. Originally, Freud used the word ego to mean a sense of self, but later revised it to mean a set of psychic functions such as judgment, tolerance, reality-testing, control, planning, defense, synthesis of information, intellectual functioning, and memory.[1]

In a diagram of the Structural and Topographical Models of Mind, the ego is depicted to be half in the consciousness, while a quarter is in the preconscious and the other quarter lies in the unconscious.

When the ego is personified, it is like a slave to three harsh masters: the id, the super-ego, and the external world. It has to do its best to suit all three, thus is constantly feeling hemmed by the danger of causing discontent on two other sides. It is said, however, that the ego seems to be more loyal to the id, preferring to gloss over the finer details of reality to minimize conflicts while pretending to have a regard for reality. But the super-ego is constantly watching every one of the ego's moves and punishes it with feelings of guilt, anxiety, and inferiority. To overcome this the ego employs defense mechanisms. The defense mechanisms are not done so directly or consciously. They lessen the tension by covering up our impulses that are threatening.[6]

Denial, displacement, intellectualisation, fantasy, compensation, projection, rationalisation, reaction formation, regression, repression, and sublimation were the defense mechanisms Freud identified. However, his daughter Anna Freud clarified and identified the concepts of undoing, suppression, dissociation, idealisation, identification, introjection, inversion, somatisation, splitting, and substitution

Id, ego, and super-ego - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Waves

btw yes it is normal, but how healthy it is depends on you and your ability relate the deeper desires and potential you hold to the outside world. basically how well you live up to the task of being your genuine self. who you are beneath the social conditioning and judgements and all that shit. as humans we hold a natural desire to discover who we are and fulfill our potential. the more you do this for yourself the less you feel the need to retreat to your own little world. because the entire world, is your own little world. you get to do whatever the fuck you want, whenever the fuck you want. the trick is actually doing it, enacting the choices that will make you happy and fulfill you. being human is tough shit.

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SageTree

Nice post Waves. And a good presentation for the point.

As I have a Wife in the profession I just have to add that psychoanalysis is not such a 'useful' method of psychology w/ out getting sarcastic about it.

It is a simple model to understand and Freud did give us much, but it's becoming or has been more like Newtonian physics has with in it's respective field of application. There is good ground work and all, but it's not quite the store house of answers that is may be once been.

In kind
Sage

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Waves

oh yeah i was being a little facetious but also a little honest in my post. like usual.

freud is way out of date but still the most fun psychology that exist. :P

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SageTree

Most fun psychology.... me Wife


I understand what you are saying... I was just trying to be polite about trashing a man... that's the long and short of it.

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