I think Sage Tree is really Jesus...

Debaser · 11-17-2010, 11:47 PM

I'm not even kidding.

HTAM · 11-17-2010, 11:50 PM

Naw, he's 'Gawd Dammit'

Let's see who gets that one.

The Rev · 11-18-2010, 01:17 AM

It's possible. However, I can't be sure until I see him kick the shit out of some bankers and turn grass clippings into bud.

The Rev

farmergiles · 11-18-2010, 01:33 AM

He's got the beard and the sandals.

Lloydy · 11-18-2010, 03:59 AM

I always thought he was more like treebeard but not made of wood

**SageTree** · 11-18-2010, 04:26 AM

Thanks Debaser and you all.....

I don't know what to say.... or how to explain my feelings about my coincidental appearance.... but I think there is more to the Consciousness inside of each of us than we give credit for....So here is a story about that.

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In the 16th century, there was a very successful parish somewhere in Europe. The parish had many pious monks of its own, and had established Abbeys at several places. Located in a luxuriant, beautiful forest was its main Abbey where monks served God with prayers and meditation.

In the 17th and 18th centuries, the parish started to bear the brunt of anti-religious and anti-missionary movements. The rise of secularism in the 19th century further diminished the allure of the parish, and ushered in the era of its decline. By the mid-19th century, the parish's monks had almost all died off as though in concert with the Abbey's decline.

All that remained was the main Abbey, alone in the beautiful forest, in which resided just five monks, all of whom were over 70, and all of whom had "one foot in the grave."

Few expected the Abbey to survive for long.

In the depths of the beautiful forest was a cabin, where a Rabbi, who lived most of his life in town, would go for a few days' seclusion every now and again.

The full-fledged monks seemed to possess a kind of intuition. They could sense the Rabbi's presence in the forest whenever he was on his way and they would pass the word among themselves" "The Rabbi is coming. He has arrived."

Once, when the monks were circulating word of the Rabbi's imminent visit, the Abbot -- an old man worried about the Abbey's prospects - had a flash of inspiration.

"Why not visit the Rabbi at his cabin? Perhaps he can give me some advice on how to save the abbey from decline?", he thought to himself.

Upon his arrival at the cabin, the Abbot was greeted warmly by the Rabbi. When he stated the intention of his visit, the Rabbi showed nothing but compassion.

Though the Rabbi empathized with the Abbot, he offered no suggestions as to how to make the situation better.

"I see what is going on now," the Rabbi said. "People nowadays have no spiritual yearnings, no religious faith. The same is true with my town where almost nobody goes to temple."

The old Rabbi and the old Abbot seemed to bond with each other, and read several chapters of the Bible together. After that, they engaged in quiet but enthusiastic discussions of abstruse issues, as if they were sorry not to have met each other many years ago.

As night closed in, the old Abbot had to leave and he gave the Rabbi a farewell hug.

Then the Abbot said, "Great! It is wonderful that we have met."

"It is a pity that I have not fulfilled the aim of my visit, though. Do you really not have any advice for me to save the declining parish?" he said.

"No, I am sorry," the Rabbi replied, "I have no advice for you, but I can tell you one thing - one of you in the Abbey is the Messiah."

Upon the Abbot's return to the abbey, his eagerly waiting colleagues closed in around him, hurriedly asking," What did the Rabbi say?"

"He could not give us a hand," the Abbot answered, "He and I only cried and read the Bible together. When I was leaving, he told me one thing -- it sounded strange and mysterious, and I don't know what it means. He said that one of you is the Messiah."

During the days, weeks and months that followed, the old monks reflected on those words. "Do the Rabbi's words `One of you is the Messiah' carry any other connotations?", they asked themselves.

Does the "you" refer to us? If it does, then who is the Messiah? they asked themselves.

Is he the Abbot? Maybe. He has led the parish for over 20 years. But Father Thomas is likely to be the Messiah as well. As everyone knows, he is a saint-like man. Or maybe Father Eliot is the Messiah. He tends to behave awkwardly and sometimes says words that hurt people's feelings; but on closer examination, his words always turn out to be reasonable, they said among themselves.

Of course, Philip is not the Messiah, is he? More strange yet is that he is a man of miracles. Whenever someone is in need or in trouble, Philip will show up. Perhaps he is the Messiah. Certainly, the Messiah that the Rabbi talked about cannot be me as I am just an ordinary person. But what if it does turn out to be me? What a surprise if I am the Messiah! Oh! My God! It cannot be me. I couldn't bear that! Am I capable of shouldering the burden of being the Messiah?

Such were the thought processes of the monks over the ensuing days.

Each of the old monks at the Abbey was engrossed in reflection. For all their brooding over the Rabbi's words, however, there was no answer. But, having engaged in reflection, they started to treat one another with greater respect every day.

As one of them was likely to be the Messiah, how could they fail to hold him in regard? Each began to treat himself with more self-respect as it dawned upon each individual that they themselves could turn out to be the Messiah. How could he fail to respect himself? How could he trivialize the Messiah?

The forest in which the main Abbey was located was charming. Once in a while, people came to picnic outdoors in the Abbey grounds, enjoy a stroll in the garden or occupy themselves in meditation in a decaying church.

The visitors also came to sense the atmosphere of mutual respect exuded by the five old monks. The aura seemed to envelop the whole Abbey, making it a place of mystery and allure.

Then, for no particularly apparent reason, the Abbey became more and more popular - more so than ever - for picnics and prayers. People brought friends to this special spot, and their friends invited their own friends.

One day, some youngsters who paid a visit to the Abbey struck up a conversation with the old monks. The two sides continued to talk with one another and the more they talked, the more profound and interesting became their discussions. Before long, one of the youngsters filed an application to join the parish, and soon, so did increasing numbers of others. After a couple of years, the parish seemed to have blossomed from decay into a spiritual centre for neighboring areas.

**SageTree** · 11-23-2010, 01:54 PM

So I have to share this.....

The other day in New York city a man stopped My Wife, Her Grama and I to ask for a cigarette and.

He said "You are Jesus man!"
I said "Well you know I get where you are coming from, and thanks, we can only try"
He said "Nah man.... I mean Jesus comes in all sizes and colours"

That is the most concise way I've ever heard and never thought of in 8 years of this how to address my take when I decide to share it with people who say this..... And here this big gaster dude comes up and bums a smoke, only to drop some Absolute Truth in such a simple way. I was really blown away and is really a skill and way of expression lesson for me.

But I thought of you Debaser and THIS is the point I meant in the story.

**Mafoo** · 11-23-2010, 02:04 PM

messengers come in all shapes and sizes also

**mothernature** · 11-23-2010, 02:11 PM

Sage, you are very special.

**SageTree** · 11-23-2010, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafoo

messengers come in all shapes and sizes also

While I'm sure this man would agree, as he also went on to say it doesn't matter what you are, we all worship One God and in the end we'll all end up in the ground.... seeming to suggest why fight about it... he said 'What happens in the end will happen, we just need to worship God and love each other.'

I take it, Mafoo, you mean about Messengers being other traditions, prophets etc...?

I ask because that is certainly how I took/take the 'Jesus' comment to heart.

I have heard it called Christ/Krishna/Buddha-consciousness.... or what have you.So in the end Jesus ,to me, is one of many an allegory for Truth/Wakefulness etc.... Something we all have in side us and are capable of.

Specifically the take home message of the Crucifixion in my eyes is that we can all sacrifice some ego, have selflessness for the benefit of others which we are interconnected with.

Turn on the Love Light

**Mafoo** · 11-23-2010, 03:21 PM

thats basically what i mean. sometimes you have to come in to contact with a "messenger" or someone/ something that makes it suddenly clear that the miracles are all around and that god is in all things.

**SageTree** · 11-23-2010, 03:27 PM

Right on. God is certainly an individual word in understanding with so much weight on three letters, but I read ya' and agree.

Cheers.

~1~ · 11-23-2010, 03:46 PM

Sage is Benjamin.

Jesus cuts my grass.

I'll gladly read the book of Benjamin if it ever gets written, I'll give it as much consideration as I've given the rest, but I'd read it.

**SageTree** · 11-25-2010, 08:46 AM

Actually I'm a kid with a Hebrew name that cuts your grass and works with your gardens, pulling the proverbial Lazerous with your floura

So I guess I work with live trees... and am not a carpenter

My name in Hebrew for 'Right hand of the Father' .... I'm left handed....

Just some funny observations.

11-17-2010, 11:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Debaser Baked Fresh Daily Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,186 Thanks: 32 Thanked 303 Times in 177 Posts	I think Sage Tree is really Jesus... I'm not even kidding. __________________ Wouldn't it be great to heal the world with only a song? Message CM47: Let's go pay some hookers to knock our junk around.

11-18-2010, 01:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,864 Thanks: 5,015 Thanked 5,419 Times in 2,864 Posts	It's possible. However, I can't be sure until I see him kick the shit out of some bankers and turn grass clippings into bud. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

11-18-2010, 01:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
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Lloydy KTF Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: England Posts: 11,976 Thanks: 533 Thanked 2,478 Times in 1,139 Posts	I always thought he was more like treebeard but not made of wood __________________ Keep the red flag flying high

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SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	So I have to share this..... The other day in New York city a man stopped My Wife, Her Grama and I to ask for a cigarette and. He said "You are Jesus man!" I said "Well you know I get where you are coming from, and thanks, we can only try" He said "Nah man.... I mean Jesus comes in all sizes and colours" That is the most concise way I've ever heard and never thought of in 8 years of this how to address my take when I decide to share it with people who say this..... And here this big gaster dude comes up and bums a smoke, only to drop some Absolute Truth in such a simple way. I was really blown away and is really a skill and way of expression lesson for me. But I thought of you Debaser and THIS is the point I meant in the story. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

11-17-2010, 11:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
HTAM Old School Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,872 Thanks: 2,368 Thanked 2,117 Times in 1,179 Posts	Naw, he's 'Gawd Dammit' Let's see who gets that one.

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Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	messengers come in all shapes and sizes also __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

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mothernature ancientbongmaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,232 Thanks: 1,201 Thanked 809 Times in 487 Posts	Sage, you are very special.

11-23-2010, 03:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	thats basically what i mean. sometimes you have to come in to contact with a "messenger" or someone/ something that makes it suddenly clear that the miracles are all around and that god is in all things. __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

11-23-2010, 03:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	Right on. God is certainly an individual word in understanding with so much weight on three letters, but I read ya' and agree. Cheers. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

11-23-2010, 03:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
~1~ Successful Failure Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: where 'they' can't see. Posts: 10,925 Thanks: 466 Thanked 1,581 Times in 925 Posts	Sage is Benjamin. Jesus cuts my grass. I'll gladly read the book of Benjamin if it ever gets written, I'll give it as much consideration as I've given the rest, but I'd read it. __________________ "And those who are successful, be always on your guard. Success walks hand in hand with failure, along Hollywood Boulevard" Ray Davies --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Click Here Asshole

11-25-2010, 08:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	Actually I'm a kid with a Hebrew name that cuts your grass and works with your gardens, pulling the proverbial Lazerous with your floura So I guess I work with live trees... and am not a carpenter My name in Hebrew for 'Right hand of the Father' .... I'm left handed.... Just some funny observations. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

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