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Old 02-22-2011, 02:04 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I get the feeling that spanky is so emotionally invested in the kid because he is the kid....
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:22 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I thought it was supposed to prepare you for life in the real world, get your learn on and become a contributing member of society. Who the fuck cares if you're having a good time! The best years of your life are high school because you get to act like a fucking fool and still have mom and dad bail you out.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:26 PM   #43 (permalink)
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nah, 18-early/mid twenties is about discovering yourself and your own preferences. before that age you simply arent equipped with the mental faculties to think for yourself.

in europe most kids take a year or two off before school, that makes complete sense to me

what DOESNT make sense is to take kids who are not ready for an increasingly complex real world, expect them to know their life path at 18, and pile mounds and mounds of debt on them while they pay for an education that will probably not have alot to do with the profession they find themselves in in 20 years.

theres a shit-ton wrong with our current system, and blaming the kids doesnt make sense. its the adults who create the system/framework, it should be the adults to blame if the system sucks. the adults are the ones who have the power to change it anyway. kids are always going to be kids. they will keep drinking and partying until you give them a valid alternative.

(not teachers, fyi, i know thats personal for you nick. im talking about policy makers)

((not that drinking should be encouraged or respected, i think in fact drinking is a hindrance to discovering yourself and your own preferences and path.))

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Old 02-22-2011, 04:43 PM   #44 (permalink)
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or maybe hes just aristotelian like that
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:12 PM   #45 (permalink)
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nah, 18-early/mid twenties is about discovering yourself and your own preferences. before that age you simply arent equipped with the mental faculties to think for yourself.

in europe most kids take a year or two off before school, that makes complete sense to me

what DOESNT make sense is to take kids who are not ready for an increasingly complex real world, expect them to know their life path at 18, and pile mounds and mounds of debt on them while they pay for an education that will probably not have alot to do with the profession they find themselves in in 20 years.

theres a shit-ton wrong with our current system, and blaming the kids doesnt make sense. its the adults who create the system/framework, it should be the adults to blame if the system sucks. the adults are the ones who have the power to change it anyway. kids are always going to be kids. they will keep drinking and partying until you give them a valid alternative.

(not teachers, fyi, i know thats personal for you nick. im talking about policy makers)

((not that drinking should be encouraged or respected, i think in fact drinking is a hindrance to discovering yourself and your own preferences and path.))
solid post man. It took me till about 24 before i had any idea of who i was and what i wanted. Still figuring it all out at 29
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I get the feeling that spanky is so emotionally invested in the kid because he is the kid....
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:07 PM   #47 (permalink)
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he prolly eats his boogers. those ppl dont deserve friends.
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i would never doubt that one should take their early 20s to figure themselves out--I wish I hadn't waited until I was 25 to really 'get it'---nonetheless, the alcohol abuse, and even gambling abuse I am seeing from kids at 19-21 is troubling, if only because they are giving up before they've even started.

Major structural issues to deal with in any event.
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i would never doubt that one should take their early 20s to figure themselves out--I wish I hadn't waited until I was 25 to really 'get it'---nonetheless, the alcohol abuse, and even gambling abuse I am seeing from kids at 19-21 is troubling, if only because they are giving up before they've even started.

Major structural issues to deal with in any event.
This this this this.

And hey, try not to lament the time you had before 'getting it'... it was all a part of you getting it!
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Shit, I'm 43 and i don't think I've 'gotten it', every time I think I'm close I get hit with a curve ball and think huh, didn't see that shit comin'...
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:59 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Shit, I'm 43 and i don't think I've 'gotten it', every time I think I'm close I get hit with a curve ball and think huh, didn't see that shit comin'...
Damn man, that's pretty crazy.

I know I'm at that age that Waves was speaking of at 18. I realized it like last year. I used to think I was just at the mercy of the world but then I realized I am my own person and I can control my future. It took me a long time to realize, but I'm glad I did when I did. Some times I meet people my age so naive I just can't help but think,"What the fuck is wrong with you?"
Even though I've met people way more naive than myself, I still am aware that I am pretty naive myself. I try to compensate with modesty but it doesn't always work.
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Damn man, that's pretty crazy.

I know I'm at that age that Waves was speaking of at 18. I realized it like last year. I used to think I was just at the mercy of the world but then I realized I am my own person and I can control my future. It took me a long time to realize, but I'm glad I did when I did. Some times I meet people my age so naive I just can't help but think,"What the fuck is wrong with you?"
Even though I've met people way more naive than myself, I still am aware that I am pretty naive myself. I try to compensate with modesty but it doesn't always work.
Yeah man it's nuts when you see someone just so fucking dumb even knowing you're not hot shit either.
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Hey man, he was being modest.... it just didn't work this time.
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Yeah man it's nuts when you see someone just so fucking dumb even knowing you're not hot shit either.
Welcome to the club

I think that is all something we need to authentically admit from time to time.

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