John F. Kerry

Radiation in reactor's building tests 10 million times above normal - CNN.com

Breaking news...


.... damn capn cannabis this nuclear stuff has so many pluses I just dont know where it ends. fuck that solar and renewable crap its so impractical and no safer...

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Captain Cannabis

i deleted some posts because they were better off in the other thread

cool story j

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Kompressor

It's almost like j secretly wants this nuclear plant to meltdown. Did you even read the rest of the article you posted?

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Roach

anti-nukers for the most part all want nuclear energy to fail.

I'd like to see reactor design improved to the point of 90% efficiency.

basically now, reactors just boil water.

Come up with a way for nuclear energy itself (radiation), to be directly absorbed to produce energy, ftw

it will eventually come,maybe something similar to solar, but using gamma rays instead.


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Stanford researchers have found that adding a single layer of organic molecules to a solar cell can increase its efficiency three-fold and could lead to cheaper, more efficient solar panels. Their results were published online in ACS Nano on Feb. 7.
Professor of chemical engineering Stacey Bent first became interested in a new kind of solar technology two years ago. These solar cells used tiny particles of semiconductors called "quantum dots." Quantum dot solar cells are cheaper to produce than traditional ones, as they can be made using simple chemical reactions. But despite their promise, they lagged well behind existing solar cells in efficiency.

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John F. Kerry

"Water pooling in the reactor's turbine building was still giving off radioactivity at a level of 1,000 milliSieverts per hour, the Tokyo Electric Power Company told reporters. That's more than 330 times the dose an average person in a developed country receives per year, and four times the top dose Japan's health ministry has set for emergency workers struggling to prevent a meltdown at the damaged plant."


where does that fit on your chart-o-matic komp? 1000 msvrts is 1 sievert right? and according to your chart 1 sievert is a bad motha fucka...

no one in here presumably has any "inside" knowledge of radiation exposure.... perhaps capt and komp know more than the average bear about radiation...perhaps they even know more than me who knows more than the average bear.... but all you know about it is from books and learning...not from first hand experience.... so the way that you can so conclusively claim that its not damaging is literally beyond me. we're all looking at the same set of facts here, and we are all looking at the same charts that show how much radiation is damaging.... so I dont see how im doing anything other than stating the obvious.... nuclear power clearly has a long cost-tail associated with it- that even in the best of times means tons of radioactive waste and in the worst of times means instant death for anyone within an x mile radius.

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sry J

BBC News - Japan nuclear crisis: Radiation spike report 'mistaken'

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Black

I agree, I don't know why anyone is being a dick for presenting this information. Thanks J.

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Terry

Still p fucking high tho apparently

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John F. Kerry

i guess they revised it to 100,000 times normal instead of 10 million....comming from the nuclear power company responsible for this fiasco i reallly feel safe believing that dont u terry?

heres another article from today...

"The radiation level at the No. 2 reactor was measured at 1,000 millisieverts an hour, Japan’s nuclear safety agency said. That’s higher than the dose that would cause vomiting, hair loss and diarrhea, according to the World Nuclear Association."

Cooling at Two of Japan's Nuclear Reactors Delayed as Radiation Increases - Bloomberg

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Kompressor

Yes, 1 Sv is sickening if delivered all at once, not by an isotope that dissipates in less than an hour, more than enough time for treatment. Plus, it'll only affect those working close to the core, not the public. Of which, those that were hospitalized were doing fine under said treatment.


Speaking of facts J, there are only 3 accidents in the history of nuclear power, and they are Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, and Fukishima. So far, only Chernobyl has ever caused harm. Considering there are 14,000 reactors operating, that's a fantastic safely record. That's right, there has been no adverse health or environmental effects due to nuclear power for over 25 years. Even Chernobyl is safe to walk on now, and has become a sanctuary for wildlife.

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mothernature

I'm sorry Komp, I have to disagree with that. There is a dump site here in Ky. that the near-by residents get leukemia at 10 times the national average. The radioactive plumes have made it to the Ohio River.

I call that adverse health and environmental effects.

just sayin'

Black

Wow komp I never knew your eyes were so wide shut.

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Roach

Nuclear and radiation accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

most accidents of an atomic/nuclear nature were actually millitary.

I'd like to see a chart/graph of what cumulative effect all accidents have had.

You know, like how much more polluted is the earth since the 40's.

Tho such a list/amount may in fact be incalculable.


sorry the chart is in curies.
still trying to convert sieverts to actual curies(english)

The sievert is equal to 100 rems.The rem and millirem are variant metric units in widest use among the American public, industry, and government.

However, SI units are increasingly encountered beyond academic, scientific, and engineering environments.
The SI unit of dose equivalent is the sievert (Sv);
conversion is straightforward, as 1 Sv = 100 rem:

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Captain Cannabis

your facts are useless in this discussion with j

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komp, "Even Chernobyl is safe to walk on now, and has become a sanctuary for wildlife." heres your wildlife sanctuary.... cmon man i know it was tounge in cheek but wildlife sanctuary???


Chernobyl 25 years on: a poisoned landscape | World news | The Observer

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Despite Mutations, Chernobyl Wildlife Is Thriving

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Captain Cannabis

lol

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John F. Kerry

yea thats why reading on till page 2 (of the article you post flamer) is so important guys....


"I met a hare in the sarcophagus area, and birds nest there," said Gaschak, referring to the concrete and steel shell that encases the still smoldering reactor.

But while wildlife seems to be proliferating in the Chernobyl exclusion zone, not everyone is convinced that these plants and animals are healthy.


Moller and Mousseau have shown that certain species in the area have a higher rate of genetic abnormalities than normal.

"We find an elevated frequency of partial albinism in barn swallows, meaning they have tufts of white feathers," Mousseau said.

Late last year Moller and Mousseau published a paper in the Journal of Animal Ecology showing that reproductive rates and annual survival rates are much lower in the Chernobyl birds than in control populations.

"In Italy around 40 percent of the barn swallows return each year, whereas the annual survival rate is 15 percent or less for Chernobyl," Mousseau said.

Moller and Mousseau think that migratory species, such as the barn swallow, are particularly vulnerable to radioactive contaminants, because they arrive in the area exhausted and with depleted reserves of protective antioxidants due to their arduous journey.

The scientists are also concerned that the mutated birds will pass on their abnormal genes to the global population.

"In the worst case scenario these genetic mutations will spread out, and the species as a whole may experience enhanced levels of mutation," Mousseau said.

"Great Irony"

Mutation isn't the only adverse effect of the radiation. Working in the Red Forest area, James Morris, a USC biologist, has observed some trees with very strange twisted shapes.

The radiation, he says, is confusing the hormone signal that the trees use to determine which direction to grow.

"These trees are having a terrible time knowing which way is up," Morris said.



i guess "thriving" is a relative term.

he can see much better with the third eye....

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John F. Kerry

no but now that youve told me everything else you say must be right also

....if ur gonna start deleting retarded comments you make after i respond to them ima have to start quoting you each time broseph.

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