fenderbender

Idk why bitches are bitchin about what obama did with Libya...

We saved a shit ton of people from being murdered...

The president of libya was like "we will find you in your homes and show no mercy" to rebel followers

then we flew in like "nuh uh bitch"

granted we are trying to solve the problem of murder with murder, but shiiit we prevented a massacre...
Now we are already backin out leavin the job to the english and french to take care of lol.

If that isnt the way a military should be used then idk what is. At least we aren't over there out of greed or because we were attacked, but to save some lives... we arent even trying to take the crazy asshole out of power.

NATO type military actions are the only i can bring myself to approve of.



First thing America has done in a good while that im actually proud of.

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John F. Kerry

can u seriously swallow the whole "narrative" like that so easily after rejecting the exact same kind of neat clean narrative from a republican president not 5 years ago....

u must have whiplash from changing your tune so fast.

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John F. Kerry

do u know that after we invaded iraq in 1991. with a broad nato and world coalition consisting of several arab countries including saudi arabia.... that after we did that, we refused to help the rebels fight saddam and he went back in and killed 20,000 or more afterwards.... which is why we had to impose the no fly zone...

we're on like step 2 of 1438 with libya (which is apparently to follow the same thing we did then, go in , do some shit, then leave with the mad man in power because we didnt want to have a bigger commitment but wanted to do some 'feel good' bs)....lets see how happy and safe your rebels are in a few months...

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iraq was an invasion and occupation, lasting more than a decade. this is a minor military intervention. the situations are not comparable.

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Man in Black

that is a terrible comparison, a much more proper one would be Kosovo/Bosnia

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fenderbender

lol what am i the entire liberal agenda or something?


i was too young to give a fuck really, we we invaded the middle east. I didnt have an opinion on it until it had already been going on for a while... and the obvious BS and greed that funded it made apparent.



dude you fit the cookie cutter fucking political republican too well.

WHERE DO THEY BREED YOU MOTHERFUCKERS.

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The US invaded Iraq first, got UN approval afterwards. When we first went there, most of the country was behind the pres. Only when we found he lied, did the majority of the country get pissed off at him.

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Kishar

If George Bush sent 200 tomahawk cruise missiles into Libya like obama did all the liberals would be calling him a war criminal and would want his head on a plate. They would be spewing the Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfy hate that is so prevalent on places like CNN and MSNBC.

Not only did George Bush get approval from Congress he put together a much broader coalition of the willing. Neither of which barrack hussein obama accomplished for HIS WAR.

Liberals say Bush should be hung from a rope for invading Afghanistan! Are you kidding me?!?!?! Al qeada attcked the USA the Taliban wouldnt give Osama up, George Bush gave them plenty of chances just like he gave Saddam MANY chances, neither listen and both got FUCKED up. End of story. (don't forget about the UN resolutions Saddam ignored since '91)

Liberalism is a disgusting mental disorder. Republicans are fucked up too.

I go by what I see with my own two eyes and if a republican would have sent the US military to attack Libya who did NOTHING to us the liberals would be in a fucking UPROAR about attacking a sovereign nation and killing women and babies.

Fucking liberals are so two faced it's sickening.

Where's them bitches in Pink now??

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Snowmayne

lol @ saving a shit ton of people from being murdered.

you mean saving a shit ton of people who have their own weapons, and are waging war on another group?

fender your dumb as fuck. THis is not a humanitarian mission.

oh wait, Ghadaffi used planes on helicopters on his people, our MSM reported this several times while being in the same region it is happening.. But uhm... Wheres the proof? Wheres the footage. You mean to tell me of all the media there, of all the videos coming out of there, you can't show me once piece of documented video proof of this? Oh he killed tons of people raiding a military base.. Yea wtf do you think is gonna happen if a group of Americans went to arm themselves by attempting to raid a US military base, they'd be slaughtered.

So we are helping a group of people we know nothing about who are being reported to have Al Qaeda members, and other freedom fighters among them, who have participated in fighting the west in other wars such as Iraq and Afghan. NATO commander reporting this. Our own intel, reporting for weeks before we actually decided to go public with joining this war, reporting they were worried AQ and them 'terrorist' would be among the rebels. AQ publicly announcing them backing the rebels and will do whatever they can to help. And yet, we move forward with this No Fly Zone, which turns into a, drop bombs on tanks and Ghadaffis ground forces, only to start saying, oh theres no proof AQ is among the rebels. Remember what happened last time we trusted US intel being reported by western MSM? Dem dere WMDs.

Humanitarian reasons my ass.. Our hommie Yemen is over there killing tons of protesters every day, we keep telling him to stop, he says ok my bad, does it again the next day.. No ones even mentioning stopping him. France sat by and watched Rwanda, as mass genocide took place, nothing happened. Few 100 fighters die in a country to which they have vast Oil interests in, and its time to go to war.

Quit being blinded by the Western MSM into believing into these stupid wars. In4 its not war... Yea ok..

A bit of a fast an unorganized rant, but you get my point.

Fender you've always been a fuck war, even fuck our soldiers, i feel no sympathy for them kinda guy..To see you be so easily swayed is sad.

Oh AND inb4 Obama just said our military operations are coming to an end, I saw Ego post this link in the other thread. Thats so far from the truth its ridiculous.


This was Civil War, this was never genocide. Yea his military shot protesters. Ok, so now your ok with the western powers playing world police in every country where something bad happens? You take a stance like this on Libya, you support this happening world wide.



Edit- I'm not against believing Ghadaffi did not commit these acts, I just would like some proof that he did it on random unarmed people.

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Ok, I looked it up, and I can admit when I'm wrong, however, I don't think I'm wrong in saying, I do not have a disgusting mental disorder.




My mental disorders are NOT disgusting.

Liberty Cap

The only reason Obama did anything is because of media attention on the subject. They forced the subject, and the United States was forced to act. And with the way our country works you don't do anything and people bitch about our lack of help, so you act and people bitch about that. You seriously can't win.

Kishar

And one more thing, The U.S. said they're handing power off to NATO. That's hilarious...The United States supplies 95% of the weaponry NATO uses. The U.S. is enforcing the NFZ under the guise of NATO...end of story.

obama stepped into a quagmire.

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Liberty Cap

Coming from a Marine infantryman. We are ending combat operations overseas. Being overseas and being in combat operations are two different things homie. Wish her the best, but unless someone is in Afghanistan in Helmand they most likely aren't seeing real combat anymore. Iraq is over. They stopped combat patrols in Iraq in 2010. More military members die in car crashes than in combat right now. That's a fact.

Snowmayne

What do you call whats been taking place in Libya then?

My point was, and still is, we are not ending what we have been doing for the past few weeks, and are currently doing today. As Kishar pointed out, NATO is a joke, we are still there, and will continue to be there rather you want to acknowledge it or not.

edit- I guess i should have said military operations, but w/e I could give a fuck about the correct terms

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Liberty Cap

Defense Secretary Robert Gates, the REAL man in charge of the military decisions, as in the guy moving the Generals around the map, has already said that boots will not be on deck in Libya as long as he is in charge. And what he says goes.

The CIA is in Libya along with just about every other country in the world. It doesn't surprise me that our special forces guys are operating there. But thats different. It's always been like that, people are just more aware of it now. But that's completely different than what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Snowmayne

What does Iraq or Afghan or boots on the ground have to do with anything about the current topic, which as I implied was, the operations will continue to go on, despite what the public has been told.

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