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Old 05-28-2011, 02:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What is consciousness?

What is Consciousness?

Simple but awesome 2 question world wide survey on what your interpretation of consciousness is. You can pick up to 3 interpretations. I think yahooka should be represented.


I guess post what it tells you you are after you're done as well.(what you picked)


Im a Substance Dualistic, Property Dualistic, Buddhist.


Edit: if they dont have an option for you such as in Sir Ex's case, or even if you just feel like sharing, simply post what you believe consciousness to be !
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Are you aware that whenever I get a package of plain M&Ms, I make it my duty to continue the strength and robustness of the candy as a species1. To this end, I hold M&M duels.

Taking two candies between my thumb and forefinger, I apply pressure, squeezing them together until one of them cracks and splinters. That is the “loser,” and I eat the inferior one immediately. The winner gets to go another round.

I have found that, in general, the brown and red M&Ms are tougher, and the newer blue ones are genetically inferior. I have hypothesized that the blue M&Ms as a race cannot survive long in the intense theater of competition that is the modern candy and snack-food world. Greens are set aside in a Brandy Snifter, both in homage to rockers of old2, and for small amounts of self indulgence3 as the championship is underway.

Occasionally I will get a mutation, a candy that is misshapen, or pointier, or flatter than the rest. Almost invariably this proves to be a weakness, but on very rare occasions it gives the candy extra strength. In this way, the species continues to adapt to its environment.

When I reach the end of the pack, I am left with one M&M, the strongest of the herd. Since it would make no sense to eat this one as well, I pack it neatly in an envelope and send it to M&M Mars, A Division of Mars, Inc., Hackettstown, NJ 17840-1503 U.S.A., along with a 3×5 card reading, “Please use this M&M for breeding purposes.”

This week they wrote back to thank me, and sent me a coupon for a free 1/2 pound bag of plain M&Ms. I consider this “grant money.” I have set aside the weekend for a grand tournament. From a field of hundreds, we will discover the True Champion.

There can be only one.
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copy pasta anyone?

i do think thats a funny thing to do, as a bio student. that would actually be a pretty interesting demo to do in a highschool science class to talk about selection. if it were a real example though, the m&m's would need to be put up to other forms of competition besides just crushing because who knows? maybe the ones that get crushed are stronger at some other challenge(representi ng another possible niche in the ecosystem).
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How conscious are we really? Intelligence is separate from consciousness, I'd be willing to bet there are less intelligent creatures on earth far more conscious than We.
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What is consciousness? What is love? What is eternity? What is deja vu?

who knows? stop asking the wrong questions son.
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Are you aware that whenever I get a package of plain M&Ms, I make it my duty to continue the strength and robustness of the candy as a species1. To this end, I hold M&M duels.

Taking two candies between my thumb and forefinger, I apply pressure, squeezing them together until one of them cracks and splinters. That is the “loser,” and I eat the inferior one immediately. The winner gets to go another round.

I have found that, in general, the brown and red M&Ms are tougher, and the newer blue ones are genetically inferior. I have hypothesized that the blue M&Ms as a race cannot survive long in the intense theater of competition that is the modern candy and snack-food world. Greens are set aside in a Brandy Snifter, both in homage to rockers of old2, and for small amounts of self indulgence3 as the championship is underway.

Occasionally I will get a mutation, a candy that is misshapen, or pointier, or flatter than the rest. Almost invariably this proves to be a weakness, but on very rare occasions it gives the candy extra strength. In this way, the species continues to adapt to its environment.

When I reach the end of the pack, I am left with one M&M, the strongest of the herd. Since it would make no sense to eat this one as well, I pack it neatly in an envelope and send it to M&M Mars, A Division of Mars, Inc., Hackettstown, NJ 17840-1503 U.S.A., along with a 3×5 card reading, “Please use this M&M for breeding purposes.”

This week they wrote back to thank me, and sent me a coupon for a free 1/2 pound bag of plain M&Ms. I consider this “grant money.” I have set aside the weekend for a grand tournament. From a field of hundreds, we will discover the True Champion.

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http://laughlines.blogs.nytimes.com/...he-fittest-mm/
Everyone, this post was STOLEN from NY Times. The OP was never given credit. Lets all have a big fucking cow.

Wait, nobody gives a fuck. Huh. Guess I'm just special.
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theres a difference between relevant copypasta and your retardation.
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Cool post Fender.

I chose Buddhism, big surprise!, because of it's respect for dualism, rooted in the exploration and examination of non-dualism as a means to deeper levels of understanding and non-attachment.


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All schools of Buddhism teach No-Self.

Non-Self in Buddhism is the Non-Duality of Subject and Object, which is very explicitly stated by the Buddha in verses such as “In seeing, there is just seeing. No seer and nothing seen. In hearing, there is just hearing. No hearer and nothing heard.”

Non-Duality in Buddhism does not constitute merging with a supreme Brahman/God, but realizing that the duality of a self/subject/agent/watcher/doer in relation to the object/world is an illusion, merely compounded matter with assigned labels.

Within the Mahayana presentation, the Two Truth Doctrine may also refer to specific perceived phenomenon instead of categorizing teachings.

Conventional truths would be the appearances of mistaken awareness together with the objects that appear to it or alternatively put the appearance that includes a duality of apprehender and apprehended and objects perceived within that.

Ultimate truths, then, are phenomenon free from the duality of apprehender and apprehended.

In the Mahayana Buddhist canon, the Diamond Sutra presents an accessible nondual view of "self" and "beings", while the Heart Sutra asserts shunyata — the "emptiness" of all "form" and simultaneously the "form" of all "emptiness". The Lotus Sutra's parable of the Burning House implies that all talk of Duality or Non-Duality by Buddhas and Bodhisattvas is merely Skillful Means meant to lead the deluded to a much higher truth.

Mahayana Buddhism, in particular, tempers the view of nonduality with respect for the experience of duality; ordinary dualistic experience, populated with selves and others , is tended with care, always "now". This approach is itself regarded as a means to disperse the confusions of duality.
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what is unconsciousness? that's what i always wonder about...the true definition of it is: Noun: The part of the mind that is inaccessible to the conscious mind but that affects behavior and emotions...buuuuuut, is it really "inaccessible" to the conscious mind? are we not really NOT conscious while...unconscious?

we, as a family, have had this discussion a couple times...at my son's inquiries. it's interesting. i wish i had more answers to give him. so, instead of more or less "answers" we discuss/talk/chat about it.
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What is consciousness? What is love? What is eternity? What is deja vu?

who knows? stop asking the wrong questions son.
If you can be content with a solid explanation(s) of love and consciousness among other questions such as "why are we here",

everything else just kind of falls into place.
It's pretty neat.
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what is unconsciousness? that's what i always wonder about...the true definition of it is: Noun: The part of the mind that is inaccessible to the conscious mind but that affects behavior and emotions...buuuuuut, is it really "inaccessible" to the conscious mind? are we not really NOT conscious while...unconscious?

we, as a family, have had this discussion a couple times...at my son's inquiries. it's interesting. i wish i had more answers to give him. so, instead of more or less "answers" we discuss/talk/chat about it.
Sometimes questions are better than answers. Giving him a foot hold to do his own exploration and seeking with without a doubt help him have the best answer for the moment because I think it's a journey that never quite has and end place.

The more you learn the more you know you've got a lot to learn.

Cool you all talk about it. I think the chat is better than pretending that anyone quite has some questions nailed down
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If you can be content with a solid explanation(s) of love and consciousness
Like I mentioned to ASG about always being on the journey, I think solid definitions of love and consciousness are something that when we learn about it, we put our foot onto the path of constant discovery.

When I first meant my Wife I loved her so much, I couldn't imagine loving her more than at that point. So what was I aim for? Maintaining? I don't know... just never asked I suppose.

Well as time passed I was often amazed at how I loved her more today than yesterday and the day before that etc etc..... and it continues to this day. For 9 years I've been asking myself in amazement how deep and rich can this be? Lord willing we have many years together.

And in meditation sometimes I check in with the body. One of my favourite ways to do this is though sensing where I am touching something. Be it the floor and my legs, my arms at my side, the hair on my ears, where my lips touch and the air passing into my lungs.... it seems like when I find one thing the others become so much more apparent...

And that is how I feel about consciousness. Once you start to examine it, itself the road seems to go on forever.

So what you mentioned about satiety is good. Sometimes you need to stick with an idea for a while to take a pause point and collect the world about you a little. But at the same time, hold fast also in amazement that these words are just that, and the experience we have through them grows and deepens.

While this is possible the worst answer EVER in a military/foreign relations issues...

But I DO think it captures what I'm trying to say a little ...it's nearly dead brilliant.

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sentience/consciousness is a byproduct, some would say unintended consequence of evolution that came about because the brain became more and more sophisticated over time.
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Like I mentioned to ASG about always being on the journey, I think solid definitions of love and consciousness are something that when we learn about it, we put our foot onto the path of constant discovery.
word. The more you look into such things the more possibilities you see for sure.

this is also why SCIENCE RULES and i can't get enough of it.

One of my favorite self-realizations of late was learning that you can logically explain through current understandings in science, how basically every religion could be possible and many plausible.
It was quite the eye opener.

I was raised without god, agnostic is what my parents would say, but really such things never mattered or were really brought into light in my childhood. At about 12 or 13 i became an atheist thanks to the wonderful invention of the internet and mainly realizing the atrocities created by religion.

Then through learning more mainly in science but also through many years of information gathering on the net, a little life experience, hallucinogens, buddhism, and of course Love,my life changed.

good times.

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