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Being · 06-14-2011, 03:06 PM

Newt Gingrich on Space Exploration: 'NASA Is Standing in the Way' - FoxNews.com

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Candidates for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination tackled the future of NASA, without its space shuttle program, among other issues during the GOP's first debate, in New Hampshire Monday night.
The question on NASA's future came from reporter Jean Mackin of news station WMUY in Hancock, N.H.: "What role should the government play in future space exploration?"
Mackin directed the question at former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, noting that NASA is ending its 30-year space shuttle program next month and will pay Russia's space program $63 million per seat to fly American astronauts on Soyuz spacecraft for trips to the International Space Station until commercial U.S. spacecraft become available. The last shuttle to fly will be Atlantis, which is set to launch July 8.
Gingrich, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, three of the seven candidates appearing in the nationally televised debate, weighed in on NASA's future. Here were their responses. (CNN anchor John King served as the debate's moderator.)
Newt Gingrich, former speaker of the House of Representatives

Well, sadly — and I say this sadly, because I'm a big fan of going into space and I actually worked to get the shuttle program to survive at one point — NASA has become an absolute case study in why bureaucracy can't innovate.
If you take all the money we've spent at NASA since we landed on the moon and you had applied that money for incentives to the private sector, we would today probably have a permanent station on the moon, three or four permanent stations in space, a new generation of lift vehicles. And instead what we've had is bureaucracy after bureaucracy after bureaucracy, and failure after failure.
I think it's a tragedy, because younger Americans ought to have the excitement of thinking that they, too, could be part of reaching out to a new frontier. [Photos: SpaceX's First Private Falcon 9 Rocket Launch]
You know, you'd asked earlier, John, about this idea of limits because we're a developed country. We're not a developed country. The scientific future is going to open up, and we're at the beginning of a whole new cycle of extraordinary opportunities. And, unfortunately, NASA is standing in the way of it, when NASA ought to be getting out of the way and encouraging the private sector.
[Later, in response to a comment by King:]
John, you mischaracterized me, I didn't say "end the space program." We built the transcontinental railroads without a national department of railroads. I said you could get into space faster, better, more effectively, more creatively if you decentralized it, got it out of Washington, and cut out the bureaucracy. It's not about getting rid of the space program; it's about getting to a real space program that works.
Tim Pawlenty, former Minnesota governor
I think the space program has played a vital role for the United States of America.
[In response to King's question: But can the United States afford it?]
In the context of our budget challenges, it can be refocused and re-prioritized, but I don't think we should be eliminating the space program. We can partner with private providers to get more economies of scale and scale it back, but I don't think we should eliminate the space program. [Vote Now: Best Spaceships of All Time]
Mitt Romney, former Massachusetts governor
I think fundamentally there are some people — and most of them are Democrats, but not all — who really believe that the government knows how to do things better than the private sector ... And they happen to be wrong.
NASA's future
NASA's final space shuttle flight is scheduled for a 12-day mission to deliver supplies and equipment to the International Space Station. The mission is designated STS-135, representing NASA's 135th space shuttle flight since the fleet began launching into orbit in April 1981.
NASA is retiring its shuttle fleet to make way for a new space exploration program aimed at sending humans to an asteroid by 2020 and to Mars in the 2030s.
The space agency is developing a new Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle, based on the Orion space capsule designed under its previous moon-oriented Constellation exploration program, to serve as the core vehicle of those deep-space missions.

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**Jimmycube** · 06-14-2011, 03:18 PM

looks like a lot to read man....i was hoping for porn to be honest.......

Being · 06-14-2011, 05:27 PM

hes obsessed with claiming obama is trying to kill nasa (they aren't) because hes a republican sheep. well here is his republican candidates talking about his favorite subject.

move to politics if needed

deadhead94 · 06-14-2011, 05:56 PM

off topic, whatever, but has anyone else noticed the large number of idiots that think NASA is in charge of classification and nomenclature of celestial bodies?

it pisses me off to no end.

I wish it was socially acceptable to hit these people.

John F. Kerry · 06-14-2011, 06:16 PM

its a true shame that the gop wasnt standing up for nasa at the debate last night. i talked about this on another forum. the gop and the dems, neither side seems to give a shit about nasa anymore. and imo it also shows how the presidents preferances are important. bush started project constellation, jfk started the apollo program... these programs required a commander in cheif to stand up and inspire people and really get a big project going by appealing to peoples desire to want to sail on the new ocean etc.... and to be in a position second to none.

its just too easy for the groupthink of congresspeople of either party to shit on the spending nasa does and to not stand up for it. WHy? basically because those people are sheep and retarded, they are apparently afraid to stand up for spending money on the most cost effective, amazing, and results-oriented government agency we've ever had in the history of our country.... its always the union people the real obama schills that want to stick it in the eye of nasa because "why should we pay for rockets when people cant eat (the unions dont get their insane unsustainable kickbacks)" .... but actually the unions get far more in kickbacks and the democratic wellfare state spends trillions every year when nasa hasnt spent a single trillion in 50 years.... so its a total straw man false argument.... but since nasa isnt like a 2nd amendment or constitutional question the tea party doesnt get excited about it either.... it was the personalities of the presidents that loved space that led them to do what they did... in that sense kennedy and bush and me are kindred spirits. I know there are lots of other people like that too... who are glad we have a window on space with permanent human habitation, a reusable shuttle, the best satelites in the world, the best telescope not just on earth but around it.... rovers exploring and finding ice on mars....and all the rest.... but its like intellectual stuff that we get out of it- so even tho you would hope and expect dems to be hte ones STANDING UP for it (and cynical folks would expect gop people to not appreciate the benefits) actually what happens is that dems want every penny for food stamps so they throw out the baby with the bathwater.... the "natural" friends of science , the democratic party, doesnt support nasa anymore, it supports fake climate studies to give kickbacks to the epa and code pink environmental division.... instead of supporting science that inspires children and the world and leads to new amazing discoveries . .... like JFK did.

Being · 06-14-2011, 06:24 PM

hahaha, thats the lulz i was looking for.

its all the dems and obama isn't it. even though you have gop candidates saying that nasa is just in the way. you cant just accept that maybe right now isn't the best time to be promoting and increasing nasa funding as has happened in the past. why do you think NO ONE is making a massive deal out of it? we all know its just bad timing for nasa right now.

kamikazi89 · 06-19-2011, 08:27 AM

hell no, not with middle eastern countries left to bomb

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