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Old 06-22-2011, 02:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Proof the FDA is suppressing the cure for cancer



just, fucking, wow..

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grab your pitchforks, lets fucking do this.

edit: if youtube is being evil, or you are full of shit- here's the torrent:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6238...ss.DVDRip.DivX
watch it.
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There is no "the cure for cancer"

There are thousands of different types of cancer that aren't all caused by the same things or treated the same way.

The may be suppressing "a" cure for cancer but not "the" cure for cancer.


The very idea is asinine.


inb4thereisathecuref orcaceritsallthesame thing
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But not before "Watch it, then give your opinion."
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That isn't an opinion.

It is well known that there are thousands of types of cancer with different root causes, mechanisms of action and methods of treatment and that a blanket cure is not going to work.


We can cure several types of cancer already and do so on a regular basis. So they obviously missed a few when covering them up.
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Are you going to watch it?
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Are you going to watch it?
When I have time to sit down and watch the whole thing through.

Maybe the doctor explains it better than the OP. But either way there isn't a "the cure for cancer". If it was that easy, we would have done it by now.


Also, the FDA only has jurisdiction in the US. Other countries have doctors too.
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Just watch the movie....
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The YouTube video cuts out on my computer at around three mins. Went to Stanislaw Burzynski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which led me to the article entitled Antineoplaston at Antineoplaston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's an interesting quote from that article:

Antineoplaston (ANP) is a name coined by Stanislaw Burzynski for a group of peptides, derivatives, and mixtures that he uses as an alternative cancer treatment.[1] These compounds are not licensed as drugs but are instead sold and administered by Burzynski as part of clinical trials that he runs at his own establishments, the Burzynski Clinic and the Burzynski Research Institute in Houston, Texas.[2][3][4] The clinical efficacy of antineoplastons combinations for various diseases have been the subject of many such trials by Burzynski and his associates, but these have not produced any clear evidence of efficacy. Oncologists have described these studies as flawed, with one doctor stating that they are "scientific nonsense".[5] In particular, independent scientists have been unable to reproduce the positive results reported in Burzynski's studies.[6]
There is no convincing evidence from randomized controlled trials in the scientific literature that antineoplastons are useful treatments of cancer and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved these products for the treatment of any disease.[2] The American Cancer Society has stated that there is no evidence that these products have any beneficial effects in cancer and have recommended that people do not buy these products.[7] A 2004 medical review described this treatment as a "disproven therapy".[8]
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An enlightening article from the Huston Press:

Cancer Doctor Stanislaw Burzynski Sees Himself as a Crusading Researcher, Not a Quack - Page 2 - News - Houston - Houston Press
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The YouTube video cuts out on my computer at around three mins. Went to Stanislaw Burzynski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which led me to the article entitled Antineoplaston at Antineoplaston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's an interesting quote from that article:

Antineoplaston (ANP) is a name coined by Stanislaw Burzynski for a group of peptides, derivatives, and mixtures that he uses as an alternative cancer treatment.[1] These compounds are not licensed as drugs but are instead sold and administered by Burzynski as part of clinical trials that he runs at his own establishments, the Burzynski Clinic and the Burzynski Research Institute in Houston, Texas.[2][3][4] The clinical efficacy of antineoplastons combinations for various diseases have been the subject of many such trials by Burzynski and his associates, but these have not produced any clear evidence of efficacy. Oncologists have described these studies as flawed, with one doctor stating that they are "scientific nonsense".[5] In particular, independent scientists have been unable to reproduce the positive results reported in Burzynski's studies.[6]
There is no convincing evidence from randomized controlled trials in the scientific literature that antineoplastons are useful treatments of cancer and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved these products for the treatment of any disease.[2] The American Cancer Society has stated that there is no evidence that these products have any beneficial effects in cancer and have recommended that people do not buy these products.[7] A 2004 medical review described this treatment as a "disproven therapy".[8]
WATCH THE MOVIE! Find it somewhere other than youtube if it isn't working for you. The movie goes into great detail about the ways in which those studies were carried out, and why they didn't replicate the same results as Burzynski. Even still, that is only a segment of a comprehensive look at the entire situation of Burzynski and antineoplastons.

Edit: https://www.burzynskimovie.com/index...article&id=110
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So, basically, when they went to do a peer review of his research, they couldn't replicate his results. Then he was adamant that they did it wrong? Unless he left something out when he gave up his material to have it reviewed, he needs to relearn the scientific method.

They have the same kind of people pushing cold fusion.


to them, I give a hearty "lol".

I'd like to see how he connected glioblastoma multiforme (the most common brain cancer) and mesothelioma (a fairly rare lung cancer) ,for example, other than that they are both a kind of cancer.
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You pussies and your needing excuses.

If you hate a thing (the FDA), go out and fuck with it because you hate it. Don't wait for it to be shown inconclusively that things are one way or the other, because that'll never happen.

Fucking pussy ass insurance loving faggot nanny needing shitheads. So worried about repercussions and consequence.


Bottom line you're fucked either way homie. Fight like a man or die begging.





Nah but let's keep talking about it and pointing out things we disagree with because those small accomplishments of observation and description are sufficient to maintain relative sanity.
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You pussies and your needing excuses.

If you hate a thing (the FDA), go out and fuck with it because you hate it. Don't wait for it to be shown inconclusively that things are one way or the other, because that'll never happen.

Fucking pussy ass insurance loving faggot nanny needing shitheads. So worried about repercussions and consequence.


Bottom line you're fucked either way homie. Fight like a man or die begging.





Nah but let's keep talking about it and pointing out things we disagree with because those small accomplishments of observation and description are sufficient to maintain relative sanity.

1) How do you suggest that they fuck with the FDA?

2) What the fuck are you talking about?
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Just sent this video to a buddy of mine who just finished his last year of school to be an oncologist. It should be interesting to read his take.
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I was just in a bad mood and was enjoying spewing off some anti-establishment bullshit to make myself feel better.




Hey, it's healthier than strangling the homeless!
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So, basically, when they went to do a peer review of his research, they couldn't replicate his results. Then he was adamant that they did it wrong? Unless he left something out when he gave up his material to have it reviewed, he needs to relearn the scientific method.
Does the idea of watching the movie scare you because it might prove you wrong with regard to some of your assumptions concerning its content?

I really don't understand why you are so adament to critique an issue without watching what is a fairly comprehensive overview of it.
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I did watch it. Also, this guy has been doing this for like 20 years and gets ridiculed by his peers for it.


I really don't understand why you are so adamant (its spelled with an "a") that he is right when people with doctorates call bullshit.
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Ouch, the spelling; all hope is lost for me on this one! I'll also take that 'I did watch it' as 'I skimmed through it'.

I just get annoyed when people come up with what they believe to be hard-hitting arguments about a particular matter of interest, when such arguments are specifically adressed in the aforementioned articles/movies/speeches of concern.

If such arguments acknowledged what has already been addressed, and then continue from perhaps a different angle or perspective, it's a different story. However, I wouldn't say that is the case here.
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I watched all 105 tedious minutes of quackery.
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