Mailing cigarettes

Bearsy · 08-30-2011, 04:08 AM

My uncle lives in GA where my brand of cigarette (Newport) is about 5 dollars a pack cheaper than they are here in NY.

If he buys me a pack/carton as a gift and mails them to me is it illegal?

I've tried googling but I can't find a straight answer.

I'm heading to bed and I'm gonna call some places when I wake up, but if any of you know for sure in the meantime I'd appreciate it.

Geeno · 08-30-2011, 04:46 AM

Man it would suck to smoke at NY rates with a job like yours.

/debbiedowner.

It's bout time I hang up the packs for good myself. I quit once a year then justify restarting. even at 10 bucks a week thats still 520 a year that could be better spent.

**SageTree** · 08-30-2011, 05:46 AM

I'd think transporting a gift would be different than mailing a gift when there is so much TAX involved... That's a good question though. It is a 'personal' limit for sure. Not like inter-state sales or anything.

Sir-Ex · 08-30-2011, 09:33 AM

I'd say just do it.

Most likely it'll come and no one will be the wiser. And the worst that can happen is they'll confiscate it.

That is if it's even illegal.

Have you tried calling the post office?

**SageTree** · 08-30-2011, 09:37 AM

Calling the Post FTW!!!!

Seriously though... I know there are folks on here to get herb in the mail... from other countries to boot.... so some cigs... meh.... they might not even care

Flamingnun · 08-30-2011, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearsy

I've tried googling but I can't find a straight answer.

Google harder.

Quote:

Originally Posted by US Law, and the Postal Service

POSTAL SERVICE
39 C.F.R. Part 111
Treatment of Cigarettes and Smokeless Tobacco as Nonmailable Matter
AGENCY: Postal Service™.
ACTION: Final rule.
SUMMARY: The Postal Service is revising Mailing Standards of the United States
Postal Service, Domestic Mail Manual (DMM®) 601.11, pertaining to the mailing of
tobacco cigarettes and smokeless tobacco. These provisions implement specific
requirements of the Prevent All Tobacco Cigarettes Trafficking (PACT) Act, Pub. L. No.
111-154, which restricts the mailability of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco.
EFFECTIVE DATE: June 29, 2010.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Anthony Alverno, 202-268-2997, or Mary
Collins, 202-268-5440.
SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION:
On May 5, 2010, the Postal Service published a proposed rule Federal Register
(75 FR 24534-24541) to implement the Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking (PACT) Act of
2009, Pub. L. No. 111-154. The Act’s purposes include requiring Internet-based and
other remote sellers of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco to comply with laws applied to
other tobacco retailers by:
• creating disincentives for the illegal smuggling of tobacco products;
• enhancing enforcement tools to deal with cigarette smuggling;
• stemming trafficking, which increases the collection of federal, state, and
local excise taxes on cigarettes and smokeless tobacco; and
• preventing youth access through Internet and contraband sales.

Section 3 of the PACT Act pertains to the Postal Service and creates a new
Section 1716E of Title 18, U.S. Code. Section 3 of the PACT Act provides that, subject to certain exceptions, cigarettes, including roll-your-own tobacco and smokeless tobacco are nonmailable. Exceptions in the PACT Act permit the mailing of cigarettes
and/or smokeless tobacco in narrowly defined circumstances, as described below.
• Noncontiguous States: intrastate shipments within Alaska or Hawaii;
• Business/Regulatory Purposes: shipments transmitted between verified
and authorized tobacco industry businesses for business purposes, or
between such businesses and federal or state agencies for regulatory purposes;
• Certain Individuals: infrequent, lightweight shipments mailed between adult individuals;

Tl:dr the government wants more taxes, so it's illegal to mail tobacco. However, it's legal to mail probably a carton or so at a time every so often (read: not the same day every week).

The Rev · 08-30-2011, 09:48 AM

I read that cigs now cost ~$10 a pack in NYC. Is that right? Fuck, I used to buy a carton for that!

The Rev

Roach · 08-30-2011, 10:11 AM

I started chewing tobacco @ age 13 (gateway drug

) 46 years ago.

$0.23 a can back then + 2 cents tax. (same as cigarettes)

now it's 4 dollars a can.

HTAM · 08-30-2011, 10:22 AM

Google

Imagining Han Solo and Chewbacca in a drab, everyday van cruising down the highway.

Black · 08-30-2011, 12:14 PM

take a visit to your friendly neighborhood Natives.

Terry · 08-30-2011, 01:37 PM

There's no Natives in Buffalo.

fenderbender · 08-30-2011, 01:45 PM

last time i was in NYC i saw some dude may 13 dollars for a pack of newports lol.

idk why youd give your money to the tobacco giants / government when they rape you with costs any chance they can...

Quit or roll your own.

You can get like 2 cig packs worth of bugler tobacco for like 4 bucks here in expensive ass NJ...

and it is better tobacco than any pack cigarette as well...

RANT

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!

**Mafoo** · 08-30-2011, 01:47 PM

there are no natives, terry.

Bearsy · 08-30-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry

There's no Natives in Buffalo.

The Seneca Nation is very highly represented in Buffalo. The second largest population of the people in the world. There are multiple reservations, some casinos, etc.
But the NY gov passed a law about 2 months ago that says they aren't allowed to sell cheap non-native smokes to non-natives anymore. So the 30 minute car ride there will save me next to nothing.
I could buy their brands, which I do 75% of the time. I'm smoking a "Smokin' Joe's" right now, actually.
But because people don't go to the res to buy name brands anymore, they've raised the prices on all their brands. And people still buy them because it's still the best deal.
But it would only be about $15 more for a carton of Newps from my uncle and if I'm gonna kill myself slowly, I'd rather do it with my brand, namean?

Rubix · 08-30-2011, 03:49 PM

i can get lucky strikes for 20 a carton from isreal and up to 36 for benson and hedges. i ordered some camel blues for a friend once, 31.99 for a carton and free two week shipping.

wellfleation · 08-30-2011, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black

take a visit to your friendly neighborhood Natives.

A friend of mine used to order them online from indian reservations like 7 years ago super cheap.

HTAM · 08-30-2011, 04:04 PM

http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/resea...s/pdf/0097.pdf

A pdf that shows State rank for tobacco taxes and the amount each state charges. Bear in mind that is in addition to the Fed tax of $1.01

Average price for a pack of smokes nationwide is $5.58.

So, for those of you that still choose to pay someone to kill you, now you can figure out who has the best retail price in your local area.

So glad I quite smoking. Just over 2 years ago, so I've a saved a GRIP.

fenderbender · 08-30-2011, 04:31 PM

also

newports are fucking disgusting wtf

deadhead94 · 08-30-2011, 04:59 PM

When I first smoked, a pack here in Ontario was like $4 now its $11 for the good ones.

Terry · 08-30-2011, 05:08 PM

Newports rock wtf.

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SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	I'd think transporting a gift would be different than mailing a gift when there is so much TAX involved... That's a good question though. It is a 'personal' limit for sure. Not like inter-state sales or anything. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

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Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,413 Thanks: 1,725 Thanked 3,816 Times in 2,256 Posts	I'd say just do it. Most likely it'll come and no one will be the wiser. And the worst that can happen is they'll confiscate it. That is if it's even illegal. Have you tried calling the post office? __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

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SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	Calling the Post FTW!!!! Seriously though... I know there are folks on here to get herb in the mail... from other countries to boot.... so some cigs... meh.... they might not even care __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

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HTAM Old School Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,872 Thanks: 2,368 Thanked 2,117 Times in 1,179 Posts	http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/resea...s/pdf/0097.pdf A pdf that shows State rank for tobacco taxes and the amount each state charges. Bear in mind that is in addition to the Fed tax of $1.01 Average price for a pack of smokes nationwide is $5.58. So, for those of you that still choose to pay someone to kill you, now you can figure out who has the best retail price in your local area. So glad I quite smoking. Just over 2 years ago, so I've a saved a GRIP.

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Terry Militant Pacifist Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Moscow, Idaho Posts: 8,527 Thanks: 2,121 Thanked 2,386 Times in 1,187 Posts	Newports rock wtf. __________________ There must be quite a few things that a hot bath won't cure, but I don't know many of them. -Sylvia Plath

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