Geeno

"If you have a problem with protests on wall street, and you're not a millionaire, you're an asshole."

I thought it was worthy of its own thread.

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Waves

What if you support their ideas but think the way they are going about things is naive and rediculous?

Am i half-an-asshole?

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Mercury

Oh but millionaires who have a problem with the protests aren't assholes? Quite a contradiction of sympathy there.

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Kompressor

I still have no idea what they are doing and/or trying to accomplish.

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Roach

They are trying to turn the current corporatocracy into some sort of democracy.

I don't expect it will work.


for those unsure of the definition...

Corporatocracy, in social theories that focus on conflicts and opposing interests within society, denotes a system of government that serves the interest of, and may be run by, corporations and involves ties between government and business. Where corporations, conglomerates, and/or government entities with private components, control the direction and governance of a country, including carrying out economic planning (notwithstanding the "free market" label).

The concept of corporatocracy is that corporations, to a significant extent, have massive power over governments, including those governments nominally elected by the people. They exercise their power via corporate monopolies and mergers, and through their subsequent capacity to leverage broad economic interests, which allows them the luxury of being declared "too big to fail"; this is accomplished by legal mechanisms (i.e., lobbyists, campaign contributions to office holders and candidates, threats to leave the state or country for another with less oversight and/or more personally beneficial subsidies, etc.), which renders them immune to vague accusations and prosecution. It may also refer to an unrealized form of government or theoretical corporate governance in national or international affairs.

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Geeno

It's just people that are pissed at the amount of influence corporations/money have on our political game.

Big bailouts for failing companies that resulted in tremendous bonuses for the CEO's.

If your company needed taxpayer money to survive... why do you get a bonus at all, let alone a bonus that equals my current yearly wage X 100?

If I need to get a single stitch from a job injury i lose my safety bonus. If another vehicle hits my work vehicle I lose that bonus (which I might not even get because I don't have a designated vehicle, but that's its own rant).

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mothernature

I don't understand why people think peaceful demonstrations are foolish and a waste of time. It's worked before, why can't it work this time?

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Roach

Because until it becomes a nationwide movement it simply doesn't have the numbers to mean anything.

An example might be, if all the unemployed (including those who have run out) voted for Jay Leno for president , he would have a good chance of winning.

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Terry

Weren't you the guy standing up for the rioters in London?

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Geeno

The problem is that the company losses became public while the gains remained private.

What the fuck is that shit?

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mothernature

Roach, I know you remember the 60's. These things never start big. They start small and grow, just like this is doing. I have hope.

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Waves

I was the guy saying the riots in london were happening for reasons other than those the media were reporting en masse, and saying that alot of british people dont want to face the fact that theyve created a lower-lower class that is reacting to the way they are being treated, they would rather just ignore them and call them hooligans. And i stick to that.

As for the influence of corporations, they aint gonna give any of it up until someone takes it from them. They already bought whatever they needed from the politicians. Its gonna be a helluva struggle to get them to give that shit up when weve basically allowed them to rape our government for the last 50 years.

For my money, it started with the military industry.

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Roach

Yes indeed. Many folks today, don't know why those metal grids (riot gates) are installed on most of the older storefronts.

I remember anything BUT peaceful demonstrations.

And yes, violence "in mass" gets results.

Just ask the NYPD.

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my_scatterheart

That doesn't happen overnight.

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Geeno

P sure I'm gonna bring my doggy and get in on it saturday in charlotte NC.

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deadhead94

Fixed.


I'm an asshole, but I am for protesting.

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Dhomnley

No it hasn't. The 60's were full of violent protests. I wasn't around, but I've read history books. Bombings, assassinations, fighting the police.

None of this is happening today. It can't happen unless a majority of the population wants it. I'm guessing about 5% are with the protestors, and another 50% are indifferent to the whole cause.

The world has changed.