Before having a baby..

Mescalito · 11-21-2011, 10:41 PM

..people should have to take care of a plant.. grow some veg.. and then take care of a pet. If they can't do that then they don't have anywhere near the responsibility required to take care of a baby.

What do you think!?

M

The Rev · 11-21-2011, 11:30 PM

I think it's good advice for people considering parenthood. However, I wouldn't want laws written along these lines. But then, that's a whole other "government's role in peoples' lives" kind of discussion. Unfortunately, most people have kids by accident, so anyone responsible enough to follow this advice probably doesn't need it.

The Rev

Mercury · 11-22-2011, 06:16 AM

i think thats asinine...

that is no measure of a persons ability to love and care for a child....

mescalito, you just hate strangers...

adventure · 11-22-2011, 06:21 AM

Thanks Merc. I have never seen "asinine" written out before, I now know how to spell it, neat.

adventure · 11-22-2011, 06:29 AM

I think that's a great idea. Of course raising a child has to be one of the most difficult challenges in life, so nothing really can prepare you.

deadhead94 · 11-22-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by adventure

Thanks Merc. I have never seen "asinine" written out before, I now know how to spell it, neat.

Then you don't pay attention. That's like my favourite word.

Mercury · 11-22-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by adventure

so nothing really can prepare you.

oh no, no..... if you can take care of a plant or a cat then you are good to go....

eldizle · 11-22-2011, 06:40 AM

I see a lot more parents hitting their kids. Not slaps on the bottom-slaps across the mouth, shoves, punches on the arms-I see people yelling at their babies to stop crying, yelling it at the infant.

I've never had a baby, but I've raised numerous small animals from birth, and I would never hit my kid in a way that wasn't very formal and ceremonial-(i.e, a talking to explaining why they were getting spanked, and then a spanking-like my folks did for me-the talk was always worse) if a kid's too young to talk to like that, then calm it, reassure it, comfort it, you'd never threaten an infant to quiet, i just don't get that

I think it would be good for any prospective parent to have raised an animal in their lifetime. Not strictly necessary, but i think it would help.

adventure · 11-22-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by deadhead94

Then you don't pay attention. That's like my favourite word.

what? I was actually being sincere.

Mescalito · 11-23-2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury

i think thats asinine...

that is no measure of a persons ability to love and care for a child....

mescalito, you just hate strangers...

Where did I say anything like that. Learn how to read properly..

Btw I had to look up asinine..

But seriously.. learning how to interpret text is quite a vital skill to have..

M

Lloydy · 11-23-2011, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by adventure

I think that's a great idea. Of course raising a child has to be one of the most difficult challenges in life, so nothing really can prepare you.

Really? I know plenty of idiots that seem to manage it just fine.

**SageTree** · 11-23-2011, 06:03 AM

I think everyone who wants to be a parent HAS to go through at least 6 sessions of counseling FIRST. Get a grip on your own shit before you dump that load on another human being. Ya know?

adventure · 11-23-2011, 06:42 AM

hmmm Sagey..... mandatory counseling.... and what were you going to go back to school for.....

**SageTree** · 11-23-2011, 07:03 AM

I believe it in man....

Don't mean to sound like I'm lining my pockets...

(With the level I'm going in for that ain't happening no matter HOW many people come in)

I DO mean to advocate healthy living though.

People pay lots of attention on the body...
Not so much on a 'fit' mind.

Body needs help.... see a doctor...
Head needs help.... people think they can do it themselves.

I get it.... but I don't get it.

I'm doing more 'street level' counseling, which is being a 'helping friend' to folks in need such as people living on the street or hospice work.

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The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,865 Thanks: 5,018 Thanked 5,420 Times in 2,865 Posts	I think it's good advice for people considering parenthood. However, I wouldn't want laws written along these lines. But then, that's a whole other "government's role in peoples' lives" kind of discussion. Unfortunately, most people have kids by accident, so anyone responsible enough to follow this advice probably doesn't need it. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

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SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,768 Times in 4,664 Posts	I think everyone who wants to be a parent HAS to go through at least 6 sessions of counseling FIRST. Get a grip on your own shit before you dump that load on another human being. Ya know? __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

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eldizle Love. Share it. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Inside a Microgram Scale Posts: 5,207 Thanks: 978 Thanked 591 Times in 423 Posts	I see a lot more parents hitting their kids. Not slaps on the bottom-slaps across the mouth, shoves, punches on the arms-I see people yelling at their babies to stop crying, yelling it at the infant. I've never had a baby, but I've raised numerous small animals from birth, and I would never hit my kid in a way that wasn't very formal and ceremonial-(i.e, a talking to explaining why they were getting spanked, and then a spanking-like my folks did for me-the talk was always worse) if a kid's too young to talk to like that, then calm it, reassure it, comfort it, you'd never threaten an infant to quiet, i just don't get that I think it would be good for any prospective parent to have raised an animal in their lifetime. Not strictly necessary, but i think it would help.

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adventure Adventure its good Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,742 Thanks: 1,852 Thanked 1,465 Times in 1,093 Posts	hmmm Sagey..... mandatory counseling.... and what were you going to go back to school for..... __________________ Coming Full Range

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SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,768 Times in 4,664 Posts	I believe it in man.... Don't mean to sound like I'm lining my pockets... (With the level I'm going in for that ain't happening no matter HOW many people come in) I DO mean to advocate healthy living though. People pay lots of attention on the body... Not so much on a 'fit' mind. Body needs help.... see a doctor... Head needs help.... people think they can do it themselves. I get it.... but I don't get it. I'm doing more 'street level' counseling, which is being a 'helping friend' to folks in need such as people living on the street or hospice work. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

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