Six Children Are Killed by NATO Airstrike in Afghanistan

profit · 12-11-2011, 03:23 AM

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KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — Six children were among seven civilians killed in a NATO airstrike in southern Afghanistan, Afghan officials said Thursday.

The deaths occurred on Wednesday in the Zhare district of Kandahar Province, an area described by coalition forces as largely pacified in recent months, and two insurgents were also killed, the Afghan officials said.

A spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force, Master Sgt. Christopher DeWitt, said the authorities were aware of the strike and had sent a team to the district to investigate. He said the assistance force had not previously issued a news release on the deaths.

Zalmai Ayoubi, a spokesman for the governor of Kandahar, said that a NATO reconnaissance aircraft spotted five militants planting mines in the village of Siacha, in the Zhare district, on Wednesday. The plane targeted the insurgents, killing two and wounding a third, and then pursued the other two suspects as they carried their wounded comrade away.

“The plane chased them, the insurgents entered a street where children were playing and, as a result of its shooting, seven people have been killed, including six children, and two girls also have been injured,” Mr. Ayoubi said. The victims were members of two families.

Abdul Samad, an uncle of four of the children who were killed, disputed the government’s version of the attack. He said his relatives were working in fields near their village when they were attacked without warning by an aircraft.

His brother-in-law, Mohammad Rahim, 50, had his two sons and three daughters with him. They were between 4 and 12 years old and all were killed, except an 8-year-old daughter who was badly wounded, Mr. Samad said.

“There were no Taliban in the field; this is a baseless allegation that the Taliban were planting mines,” Mr. Samad said. “I have been to the scene and haven’t found a single bit of evidence of bombs or any other weapons. The Americans did a serious crime against innocent children, they will never ever be forgiven.”

American soldiers have destroyed numerous dwellings in Zhare to deny insurgents hiding places, and they have also built new roads across farmland because existing ones were so heavily mined. Residents were quickly compensated by the military, however, and in recent months the area, one of several districts near the city of Kandahar that were once Taliban strongholds, has been relatively quiet.

The area is also known as the ancestral home of the Taliban leader Mullah Muhammad Omar.

profit · 12-11-2011, 03:24 AM

watch this, seriously.

Drone Warfare Murder By Joystick. A Disgrace in The Name Of Human Race!! - YouTube

profit · 12-11-2011, 03:26 AM

by the way that article was on PAGE 12 of the NYT.
the front page had an article about black friday.

mfw

Snowmayne · 12-11-2011, 03:56 AM

religion of peace

deadhead94 · 12-11-2011, 04:00 AM

You post this stuff like it surprises you.

The united states' war crimes are so common they aren't newsworthy any more.

When they go to war, I just assume they are killing civilians and torturing people in secret prisons. It saves hours of reading.

The Rev · 12-11-2011, 09:08 AM

In the mid-80's, my Poli-Sci professor said, to a dismayed class, that if fascism were ever to rise up again in the world, it would be in the USA. He said it was because we love our flag waving, drum beating patriotism like no other. I should look that guy up (if he's still alive) and tell him he was right.

The Rev

profit · 12-11-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by deadhead94

You post this stuff like it surprises you.

The united states' war crimes are so common they aren't newsworthy any more.

When they go to war, I just assume they are killing civilians and torturing people in secret prisons. It saves hours of reading.

war crimes are not newsworthy.... ??

um kill yourself ok?

lots of people dont know the extent to which this has been carried. or maybe they dont actually believe it until they see the details.

i make those assumptions too but to have the illustration makes a huge difference. at least it does to me and others who still have a consciousness and a soul.

go smoke another bowl of crystal and then put a gun to your head so it can finally correctly represent your name.

Terry · 12-11-2011, 06:33 PM

Eh, he makes a point man. It's getting harder and harder to muster any real disgust for my government, it's a lost cause anyways.

With luck we will be invaded before we destroy the entire planet.

profit · 12-11-2011, 06:35 PM

the thought of accepting that is too depressing. hence my demeanor.

ftl < fuck this life

Roach · 12-11-2011, 06:49 PM

All's fair in love and war.

ever heard it before ?

the best way to avoid "war crimes" is to avoid war.

Not to willy nilly invade soverign nations, because of the political/economic advantages.

Flamingnun · 12-11-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by profit

war crimes are not newsworthy.... ??

War crimes are newsworthy, however when people use them to validate their own personal bias it detracts from the validity of the issue.

There's plenty of other horrific war crimes taking place in the world, yet you choose to focus on one that lets you post an a gay anti US video. Stop kidding yourself you actually care about anything other than your own delusional agenda.

profit · 12-11-2011, 07:36 PM

yeah i have, you cant have liberty at home and imperialism abroad.

my point is that war crimes and atrocities against our kind are always newsworthy and if you dont think so you need to be smited.

terry i can understand how you feel, our government is a lost cause. and it is extremely depressing to think about it. we must not let it make us become apathetic in general though.

there is no hope for part of society. the ones who will be cut down by god. the rest of us need to bind together like never before and never lose sight of what is important.

how else are we going to stop these fucks and their drones and their murder? someone has to do it- and no one ever will if everyone loses hope in apathy.

profit · 12-11-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamingnun

War crimes are newsworthy, however when people use them to validate their own personal bias it detracts from the validity of the issue.

There's plenty of other horrific war crimes taking place in the world, yet you choose to focus on one that lets you post an a gay anti US video. Stop kidding yourself you actually care about anything other than your own delusional agenda.

oh okay.

Terry · 12-11-2011, 09:47 PM

Poot-'It's a cold world Bodie.'
Bodie-'Thought you said it was gettin warmer nigga?'
Poot-'World goin one way, people the other yo'

-The Wire

HTAM · 12-12-2011, 03:13 AM

I appreciate the point and and the effort you employ to try and make it, but I have to tell you that what I saw in that video was sensationalized propaganda.

Serious photoshopping with Obama for effect.

Additionally, I saw other photos inserted for shock value. One particular image I recall is a young child who appeared to suffer from malnutrition. I also observed what appeared to be a child with a bullet wound in the left cheek below the eye. These are not accurate depictions of indiscriminate drone attacks.

WALD, these images are not an accurate representation of the evil you wish to expose.

kamikazi89 · 12-12-2011, 09:51 AM

Drone War Exposed – the complete picture of CIA strikes in Pakistan: TBIJ

profit · 12-12-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HTAM

WALD, these images are not an accurate representation of the evil you wish to expose.

well i dont really think it's shock value. i mean- to a certain extent you have to assume the author of this is fairly pissed at the populace's apathy and maybe attempting to say "hey, you fuck, look, this is real." this is just my first thought and is completely my own opinion but it does seem to fit.

anyways here is an accurate representation of the evil i am exposing. just wait till they get to the part about the children. so fucking sad and wrong.

USA War Crimes - Brave Marine Speaks Out - YouTube

**Home Wrecker** · 12-12-2011, 02:56 PM

You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

deadhead94 · 12-12-2011, 02:59 PM

I don't want an omelette

I want my eggs like normally fried with cooked yolk

kamikazi89 · 12-12-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Home Wrecker

You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

you hungry?
maybe this well sate your appetite

12-11-2011, 03:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
profit restore the republic Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 818 Thanked 357 Times in 237 Posts	by the way that article was on PAGE 12 of the NYT. the front page had an article about black friday. mfw __________________ Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. follow https://twitter.com/#!/curtiswm - sub http://www.youtube.com/user/66sicksfishstix

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The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,867 Thanks: 5,019 Thanked 5,421 Times in 2,865 Posts	In the mid-80's, my Poli-Sci professor said, to a dismayed class, that if fascism were ever to rise up again in the world, it would be in the USA. He said it was because we love our flag waving, drum beating patriotism like no other. I should look that guy up (if he's still alive) and tell him he was right. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

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Terry Hello Darkness Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Moscow, Idaho Posts: 8,538 Thanks: 2,130 Thanked 2,392 Times in 1,189 Posts	Eh, he makes a point man. It's getting harder and harder to muster any real disgust for my government, it's a lost cause anyways. With luck we will be invaded before we destroy the entire planet. __________________ I don't know but I've been told, If you never die you'll never grow old

12-11-2011, 06:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
profit restore the republic Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 818 Thanked 357 Times in 237 Posts	the thought of accepting that is too depressing. hence my demeanor. ftl < fuck this life __________________ Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. follow https://twitter.com/#!/curtiswm - sub http://www.youtube.com/user/66sicksfishstix

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Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	All's fair in love and war. ever heard it before ? the best way to avoid "war crimes" is to avoid war. Not to willy nilly invade soverign nations, because of the political/economic advantages. __________________ לזיין את הקופים

12-11-2011, 07:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
profit restore the republic Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 818 Thanked 357 Times in 237 Posts	yeah i have, you cant have liberty at home and imperialism abroad. my point is that war crimes and atrocities against our kind are always newsworthy and if you dont think so you need to be smited. terry i can understand how you feel, our government is a lost cause. and it is extremely depressing to think about it. we must not let it make us become apathetic in general though. there is no hope for part of society. the ones who will be cut down by god. the rest of us need to bind together like never before and never lose sight of what is important. how else are we going to stop these fucks and their drones and their murder? someone has to do it- and no one ever will if everyone loses hope in apathy. __________________ Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. follow https://twitter.com/#!/curtiswm - sub http://www.youtube.com/user/66sicksfishstix

12-11-2011, 09:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
Terry Hello Darkness Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Moscow, Idaho Posts: 8,538 Thanks: 2,130 Thanked 2,392 Times in 1,189 Posts	Poot-'It's a cold world Bodie.' Bodie-'Thought you said it was gettin warmer nigga?' Poot-'World goin one way, people the other yo' -The Wire __________________ I don't know but I've been told, If you never die you'll never grow old

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HTAM Old School Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,872 Thanks: 2,368 Thanked 2,117 Times in 1,179 Posts	I appreciate the point and and the effort you employ to try and make it, but I have to tell you that what I saw in that video was sensationalized propaganda. Serious photoshopping with Obama for effect. Additionally, I saw other photos inserted for shock value. One particular image I recall is a young child who appeared to suffer from malnutrition. I also observed what appeared to be a child with a bullet wound in the left cheek below the eye. These are not accurate depictions of indiscriminate drone attacks. WALD, these images are not an accurate representation of the evil you wish to expose.

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Home Wrecker material boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ishmaelia Posts: 4,776 Thanks: 1,625 Thanked 853 Times in 421 Posts	You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. __________________ Mr. Pink: You kill anybody? Mr. White: A few cops. Mr. Pink: No real people? Mr. White: Just cops.

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