RIP MEGAUPLOAD

the-who? · 01-19-2012, 09:42 PM

AND INTERNETZ

shai_hulud · 01-19-2012, 09:50 PM

uh, yeah. if you've been paying any sort of attention to SOPA & PIPA, you'd know that support in favor is down significantly. also, here's something fun and relevant.

Anonymous attacks DOJ site after feds shut down Megaupload - Jan. 19, 2012

the-who? · 01-20-2012, 12:20 AM

megaupload foresaw the impending doom and started giving basically unlimited 45 SECOND WAIT FREE downloads.

even if it was just a giant FUCK YOU to the powers that be.. I benefited from what they did.

Show some fucking respect.

DanDomingo · 01-20-2012, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the-who?

Show some fucking respect.

No. ಠ_ಠ

FoTwenny · 01-20-2012, 03:21 AM

Megaupload.com | Internet piracy accused denied... | Stuff.co.nz

Haven't really got much sympathy.

**mothernature** · 01-20-2012, 04:20 AM

If it's truly a conspiracy, then shouldn't the advertisers be arrested too? After all, isn't that where the money came from?

Rubix · 01-20-2012, 05:26 AM

Wasn't it a paid subscription based site? I hadn't really given it any sort of merit since it wasn't a regular torrent site

adventure · 01-20-2012, 06:33 AM

This anonymous douche bag does not get it. Yes we all love pirated stuff, but we also know its wrong. PIPA and SOPA are supposed to be written to protect intellectual property, but they do much more then that. I would be more then willing to give up access to pirated material, if it meant that all other 1st amendment rights would be preserved on the internet.
We can not have our cake and eat it too, and less face it piracy is wrong. If anonymous was not just an attention whore, we wouldn't be trying to protect Megaupload. He would be spending this time raising awareness in an appropriate manner.

Captain Cannabis · 01-20-2012, 06:55 AM

piracy isn't actually wrong though. you've definitely been brainwashed

adventure · 01-20-2012, 07:05 AM

please explain how piracy isn't wrong? Someone puts all their heart and hard work into something, be it a game, a program, movie, music, why do you have the write to have it for free? please explain

Sir-Ex · 01-20-2012, 07:08 AM

Is anything actually wrong? (in an ethics sense)

Sir-Ex · 01-20-2012, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adventure

please explain how piracy isn't wrong? Someone puts all their heart and hard work into something, be it a game, a program, movie, music, why do you have the write to have it for free? please explain

Personally I believe we should live in a world where once you create something, it's free reign. We should be putting our hearts and hard work into things that we want to create, because we want to create them, because our heart is in it. Then, like a child when it's reached maturity, we let it out into the world.

I'm sure there are many more artists that would give their art away for free if they didn't need the money aspect of it to survive.

The only right I see existing is this:

I have the right to do anything I can.

edit: I'm just saying stuff. I'm aware that I'm not CC and you're not talking to me.

eldizle · 01-20-2012, 07:37 AM

the artists i buy the most music from, offer all their albums free for download on their websites, with a simple donate through paypal button next to the download link.

just saying.

adventure · 01-20-2012, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir-Ex

Personally I believe we should live in a world where once you create something, it's free reign. We should be putting our hearts and hard work into things that we want to create, because we want to create them, because our heart is in it. Then, like a child when it's reached maturity, we let it out into the world.

I'm sure there are many more artists that would give their art away for free if they didn't need the money aspect of it to survive.

The only right I see existing is this:

I have the right to do anything I can.

edit: I'm just saying stuff. I'm aware that I'm not CC and you're not talking to me.

This sounds like a wonderful world, but its not the world we live in. How many hundreds of people work on a single video game. Piracy effects everyone involved from the programmer to the janitor.

If we didnt need money, then no one would be stealing the material to begin with.

Rubix · 01-20-2012, 07:58 AM

Are you referring to anonymous as HE?

Sir-Ex · 01-20-2012, 08:01 AM

In terms of sales, piracy actually doesn't have much of an effect on the videogame industry.

Because they have a relatively high price point for what they are, most of the people that pirate a game wouldn't buy it even if it weren't available for illegal download. And if they did it would more than likely be a second hand copy, which doesn't give any money to the developer or publisher of the game, only the retailer.

It's why indie gaming and these steam sales are so popular and such a good idea. Having games cost $5 - $10, full games, good games, available to download in a matter of minutes without even having to go to a retailer, people are willing to do this, and in many cases prefer to do this because they get the added benefit of no legal worry, not having to implement cracks or the like, full access to online features, and official support.

I don't know about the music or movie industry so much, but I know that there aren't any programmers losing their jobs because of bit torrent.

adventure · 01-20-2012, 08:25 AM

Its why Louis CK is a genius that $5 download was brilliant.

I kind of agree with you about the Video game thing.

I still think people can make some pretty extreme justifications for piracy, just so they don't feel bad or guilty. The bottom line is you are stealing!

**Mafoo** · 01-20-2012, 08:28 AM

regadring sir-x's post: as far as i know, the same story is true for the music biz. the musicians themselves make their money touring, and the record companies make most of the money from album sales. unfortuneately the record companies have the most to lose so they are making the most noise about piracy.

adventure · 01-20-2012, 08:37 AM

and record companies employee a lot of people.

Sir-Ex · 01-20-2012, 08:46 AM

Piracy is different from stealing.

Imagine there is a coffee machine at your local walmart. You take that coffee machine in secret without paying for it. That coffee machine is no longer in the walmart and now you have it. No one else will have access to that coffee machine besides you. That's stealing.

Now imagine there is a coffee machine at your local walmart. But instead of taking that coffee machine, you replicate a nearly identical coffee machine just like it. The coffee machine at your local walmart is still there, and now you have another just like it. Someone else will still be able to buy that coffee machine. That's piracy.

Just from that distinction there arises a whole mess of complexities, and we haven't even started talking about the logistic and ethical underpinnings of the concept of ownership itself.

You've not even scratched the bottom line.

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01-20-2012, 12:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
the-who? watching adultswim Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 982 Thanks: 16 Thanked 183 Times in 133 Posts	megaupload foresaw the impending doom and started giving basically unlimited 45 SECOND WAIT FREE downloads. even if it was just a giant FUCK YOU to the powers that be.. I benefited from what they did. Show some fucking respect. __________________ Please, aint nobody fucking after her. I'm outta here soon as I fix the flux capacitor.

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FoTwenny Eats laughs Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Middle Earth/Narnia Posts: 2,413 Thanks: 1 Thanked 407 Times in 164 Posts	Megaupload.com \| Internet piracy accused denied... \| Stuff.co.nz Haven't really got much sympathy. __________________ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Check it __________________ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

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mothernature ancientbongmaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,232 Thanks: 1,201 Thanked 809 Times in 487 Posts	If it's truly a conspiracy, then shouldn't the advertisers be arrested too? After all, isn't that where the money came from? __________________ Sometimes sleep is the best revenge- Luke

01-20-2012, 06:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
adventure Adventure its good Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,742 Thanks: 1,852 Thanked 1,465 Times in 1,093 Posts	This anonymous douche bag does not get it. Yes we all love pirated stuff, but we also know its wrong. PIPA and SOPA are supposed to be written to protect intellectual property, but they do much more then that. I would be more then willing to give up access to pirated material, if it meant that all other 1st amendment rights would be preserved on the internet. We can not have our cake and eat it too, and less face it piracy is wrong. If anonymous was not just an attention whore, we wouldn't be trying to protect Megaupload. He would be spending this time raising awareness in an appropriate manner. __________________ Coming Full Range

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Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,922 Thanks: 2,705 Thanked 3,174 Times in 1,812 Posts	piracy isn't actually wrong though. you've definitely been brainwashed __________________ fuck the monkeys

01-20-2012, 07:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
adventure Adventure its good Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,742 Thanks: 1,852 Thanked 1,465 Times in 1,093 Posts	please explain how piracy isn't wrong? Someone puts all their heart and hard work into something, be it a game, a program, movie, music, why do you have the write to have it for free? please explain __________________ Coming Full Range

01-20-2012, 07:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,416 Thanks: 1,726 Thanked 3,820 Times in 2,258 Posts	Is anything actually wrong? (in an ethics sense) __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

01-20-2012, 07:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
eldizle Love. Share it. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Inside a Microgram Scale Posts: 5,207 Thanks: 978 Thanked 591 Times in 423 Posts	the artists i buy the most music from, offer all their albums free for download on their websites, with a simple donate through paypal button next to the download link. just saying.

01-20-2012, 08:01 AM	#16 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,416 Thanks: 1,726 Thanked 3,820 Times in 2,258 Posts	In terms of sales, piracy actually doesn't have much of an effect on the videogame industry. Because they have a relatively high price point for what they are, most of the people that pirate a game wouldn't buy it even if it weren't available for illegal download. And if they did it would more than likely be a second hand copy, which doesn't give any money to the developer or publisher of the game, only the retailer. It's why indie gaming and these steam sales are so popular and such a good idea. Having games cost $5 - $10, full games, good games, available to download in a matter of minutes without even having to go to a retailer, people are willing to do this, and in many cases prefer to do this because they get the added benefit of no legal worry, not having to implement cracks or the like, full access to online features, and official support. I don't know about the music or movie industry so much, but I know that there aren't any programmers losing their jobs because of bit torrent. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

01-20-2012, 08:25 AM	#17 (permalink)
adventure Adventure its good Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,742 Thanks: 1,852 Thanked 1,465 Times in 1,093 Posts	Its why Louis CK is a genius that $5 download was brilliant. I kind of agree with you about the Video game thing. I still think people can make some pretty extreme justifications for piracy, just so they don't feel bad or guilty. The bottom line is you are stealing! __________________ Coming Full Range

01-20-2012, 08:28 AM	#18 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	regadring sir-x's post: as far as i know, the same story is true for the music biz. the musicians themselves make their money touring, and the record companies make most of the money from album sales. unfortuneately the record companies have the most to lose so they are making the most noise about piracy. __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

01-20-2012, 08:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
adventure Adventure its good Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,742 Thanks: 1,852 Thanked 1,465 Times in 1,093 Posts	and record companies employee a lot of people. __________________ Coming Full Range

01-20-2012, 08:46 AM	#20 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,416 Thanks: 1,726 Thanked 3,820 Times in 2,258 Posts	Piracy is different from stealing. Imagine there is a coffee machine at your local walmart. You take that coffee machine in secret without paying for it. That coffee machine is no longer in the walmart and now you have it. No one else will have access to that coffee machine besides you. That's stealing. Now imagine there is a coffee machine at your local walmart. But instead of taking that coffee machine, you replicate a nearly identical coffee machine just like it. The coffee machine at your local walmart is still there, and now you have another just like it. Someone else will still be able to buy that coffee machine. That's piracy. Just from that distinction there arises a whole mess of complexities, and we haven't even started talking about the logistic and ethical underpinnings of the concept of ownership itself. You've not even scratched the bottom line. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

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