Caterpillar outsources manufacturing to a 3rd world country

wellfleation · 02-04-2012, 03:59 PM

Step 1: Demand workers take an immense pay cut.
Step 2: Lock workers out, claim that the workers are greedy to expect anything remotely close to what they made before.
Step 4: Shut down the factory and move the operation to a 3rd world country where people are desperate for work and are willing to be taken advantage of.

All this in a year of record profits.

Link
And they'll get a tax break on top of it!

A tri-factor fuck you USA! Thanks for starting your business here and becoming who you are because of America. Fuckers.

Flamingnun · 02-04-2012, 04:05 PM

Where is that Apple manufacture their products again?

wellfleation · 02-04-2012, 04:08 PM

An idiot and an ass-hole.

I see.

Terry · 02-04-2012, 04:10 PM

He's got a point wellfleation..

wellfleation · 02-04-2012, 04:14 PM

I really see NO correlation with this story. When did Apple close down their factories while screwing their employees?

This is pure trolling. That's another thread though.

Terry · 02-04-2012, 04:20 PM

Apple abuses Chinese labor laws to make their cheap ass shit for even cheaper.

Talk about exporting jobs..

Flamingnun · 02-04-2012, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellfleation

I really see NO correlation with this story. When did Apple close down their factories while screwing their employees?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silicon CNET Article

Apple said a reorganisation of its sales and marketing efforts will result in 148 job cuts over the course of the current fiscal year, which ends in September. The cuts are in addition to 200 jobs that were eliminated when the company closed its Sacramento, California plant in April.

Apple announces more job cuts | CIO Insights | silicon.com

Closes factories? Check. Outsources overseas to take advantage of slave like working conditions, whilst taking jobs away from a willing domestic workforce in the US? Check. If you can't see the correlation, you're a hypocritical retard.

wellfleation · 02-04-2012, 04:54 PM

Last I heard, Apple is a pretty good company to work for in the US, especially if you are an engineer on campus. They employ a hell of a lot more people in the US than all of the other computer makers around combined (MS is software). Dell, Acer, etc, who do they employ in the US? Not to mention all non-Apple's private spin-off products and software (tons of private developers for iOS alone make many people here in the US very comfortable.

Give me a break. Apple and oranges (hehe).

wellfleation · 02-04-2012, 05:02 PM

Their workers should burn down the place to show their "appreciation".

wellfleation · 02-04-2012, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamingnun

Apple announces more job cuts | CIO Insights | silicon.com

Closes factories? Check. Outsources overseas to take advantage of slave like working conditions, whilst taking jobs away from a willing domestic workforce in the US? Check. If you can't see the correlation, you're a hypocritical retard.

From your 8-year-old article you have linked:

Quote:

Although Apple has pared jobs on several occasions in recent years, the company has continued to grow its overall ranks. Much of the hiring has come as the company has expanded its network of Apple-owned retail stores.

Apple has grown tremendously since 8 years ago in every regard, jobs here domestically included well beyond what you think you see. I've already noted the intangibles for you.

Geeno · 02-04-2012, 05:48 PM

My mechanic is a former Cat employee. He used to make like 60 an hour from them, then they went from 200 mechanics to 2.

It's like there was never thought of a middle ground.

I see a lot more Komatsu or whatever than Cat around c-sites these days anyways.

**mothernature** · 02-05-2012, 02:00 AM

"Here is a list of companies we've confirmed are "Exporting America." These are U.S. companies either sending American jobs overseas, or choosing to employ cheap overseas labor, instead of American workers."

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou....a/content.html

As you can see Caterpillar and Apple are both on the list. I don't see what you are arguing about.

wellfleation · 02-05-2012, 02:15 AM

Simple, we are arguing two very different companies with two different strategies. I have already shown Apple has grown US jobs. Do they outsource? Yes! Does just about everybody? Yes! GM outsources too but you would not compare them to Caterpillar either, would you?

wellfleation · 02-05-2012, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geeno

My mechanic is a former Cat employee. He used to make like 60 an hour from them, then they went from 200 mechanics to 2.

It's like there was never thought of a middle ground.

I see a lot more Komatsu or whatever than Cat around c-sites these days anyways.

Exactly, and blame the workers.

ionlylooklazy · 02-05-2012, 02:35 AM

all i see is a fanboy in denial

Sir-Ex · 02-05-2012, 04:29 AM

At least your entire country hasn't submitted to - - ... you know what fuck it I don't care. Fuck you and fuck your thread. Go protest at the cat HQ if you're angry at them. Or cut your dick off and go crying down the street.

Mescalito · 02-05-2012, 04:39 AM

Who needs diggers when its cheaper to pay Chinese people to dig?

Edit: Oh wait.. I think I missed something..?

M

wellfleation · 02-05-2012, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir-Ex

At least your entire country hasn't submitted to - - ... you know what fuck it I don't care. Fuck you and fuck your thread. Go protest at the cat HQ if you're angry at them. Or cut your dick off and go crying down the street.

And fuck your apathy. You get what you deserve.

Geeno · 02-05-2012, 05:21 AM

You know that this article is about Canada, right?

And that the plant is being outsourced to America?

Geeno · 02-05-2012, 05:27 AM

This thread is really a horrible experience for you, wellfleation.

02-04-2012, 03:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
wellfleation Old School Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 3,854 Thanks: 195 Thanked 601 Times in 427 Posts	Caterpillar outsources manufacturing to a 3rd world country Step 1: Demand workers take an immense pay cut. Step 2: Lock workers out, claim that the workers are greedy to expect anything remotely close to what they made before. Step 4: Shut down the factory and move the operation to a 3rd world country where people are desperate for work and are willing to be taken advantage of. All this in a year of record profits. Link And they'll get a tax break on top of it! A tri-factor fuck you USA! Thanks for starting your business here and becoming who you are because of America. Fuckers. __________________ FIGHTPOWER

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wellfleation Old School Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 3,854 Thanks: 195 Thanked 601 Times in 427 Posts	I really see NO correlation with this story. When did Apple close down their factories while screwing their employees? This is pure trolling. That's another thread though. __________________ FIGHTPOWER

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Terry Militant Pacifist Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Moscow, Idaho Posts: 8,535 Thanks: 2,128 Thanked 2,390 Times in 1,188 Posts	Apple abuses Chinese labor laws to make their cheap ass shit for even cheaper. Talk about exporting jobs.. __________________ There must be quite a few things that a hot bath won't cure, but I don't know many of them. -Sylvia Plath

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wellfleation Old School Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 3,854 Thanks: 195 Thanked 601 Times in 427 Posts	Last I heard, Apple is a pretty good company to work for in the US, especially if you are an engineer on campus. They employ a hell of a lot more people in the US than all of the other computer makers around combined (MS is software). Dell, Acer, etc, who do they employ in the US? Not to mention all non-Apple's private spin-off products and software (tons of private developers for iOS alone make many people here in the US very comfortable. Give me a break. Apple and oranges (hehe). __________________ FIGHTPOWER Last edited by wellfleation; 02-04-2012 at 04:59 PM.

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wellfleation Old School Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 3,854 Thanks: 195 Thanked 601 Times in 427 Posts	Their workers should burn down the place to show their "appreciation". __________________ FIGHTPOWER

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mothernature ancientbongmaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,232 Thanks: 1,201 Thanked 809 Times in 487 Posts	"Here is a list of companies we've confirmed are "Exporting America." These are U.S. companies either sending American jobs overseas, or choosing to employ cheap overseas labor, instead of American workers." http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou....a/content.html As you can see Caterpillar and Apple are both on the list. I don't see what you are arguing about. __________________ Sometimes sleep is the best revenge- Luke

02-05-2012, 02:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
wellfleation Old School Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 3,854 Thanks: 195 Thanked 601 Times in 427 Posts	Simple, we are arguing two very different companies with two different strategies. I have already shown Apple has grown US jobs. Do they outsource? Yes! Does just about everybody? Yes! GM outsources too but you would not compare them to Caterpillar either, would you? __________________ FIGHTPOWER

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ionlylooklazy no left turn unstoned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: washington Posts: 4,045 Thanks: 56 Thanked 559 Times in 292 Posts	all i see is a fanboy in denial

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Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,416 Thanks: 1,726 Thanked 3,820 Times in 2,258 Posts	At least your entire country hasn't submitted to - - ... you know what fuck it I don't care. Fuck you and fuck your thread. Go protest at the cat HQ if you're angry at them. Or cut your dick off and go crying down the street. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

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