Self-Immolation

fenderbender · 04-21-2012, 03:31 PM

In just this past year alone, 32 Tibetans have lit themselves on fire to protest the chinese occupation of tibet, as well as the forced exile of their spiritual leader the dalai lama. THIRTY FUCKING TWO... this year

Now apparently many tibetan's faith in their non-violent approach to the occupation is waning. After 50+ years from when the dalai lama went into exile, nothing much has changed.
Apparently the chinese governement has cracked down even in the past few years after many "free tibet" protests happened all over the world during the beijing olympics.
Hundreds of monks and tibetans have been arrested this past year alone, many simply because they would not denounce the dalai lama.

Also, since it is china, EXTREMELY little news and footage comes out about this, as well as no foreign media being aloud in of course....

Graphic vids

Here's the video of the famous self-immolation in Saigon in 1963. Fucking unreal

Self-Immolation of a buddhist monk - Desi Video Network

a tibetan nun in this past year

A Tibetan nun self-immolates - YouTube

people are losing hope

fenderbender · 04-21-2012, 03:46 PM

many first drink the kerosene, then wrap themselves in barbed wire so no one can stop it, then light themselves up

deadhead94 · 04-21-2012, 03:50 PM

When religious people want to light themselves on fire, I'm a happy guy.

fenderbender · 04-21-2012, 03:59 PM

your negative connotations about religion, Do me a favor and tell me where these come into play with regards to buddhism

Lloydy · 04-21-2012, 04:07 PM

bloody stupid way to protest if you ask me.

maszac · 04-21-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fenderbender

many first drink the kerosene, then wrap themselves in barbed wire so no one can stop it, then light themselves up

That's badass.

farmergiles · 04-21-2012, 04:37 PM

The Chinese occupation is not as black and white as some my suggest.

Tibet has been a feudal society under the Buddhists for a long time- the Maoists would not have found any sympathy if the society had been egalitarian in the first place.

Not that I'm saying the Chinese are in the right, just saying there are two sides to this story.

The Dalai Lama is probably the most proficient of all current religious leaders in using modern media to get his point across.

Just saying.

deadhead94 · 04-21-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fenderbender

your negative connotations about religion, Do me a favor and tell me where these come into play with regards to buddhism

The fact that Buddhism is a religion complete with idols and spells and myths and special clothes. And 500 million followers.

Sir-Ex · 04-21-2012, 05:17 PM

Damn 500 million? I didn't know it was as popular as that. Sweet. As far as religions go Buddhism is pretty awesome.

deadhead94 · 04-21-2012, 05:25 PM

Hello, China? I think I have something you may want, but it's gonna cost you....that's right--all the tea.

farmergiles · 04-21-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by deadhead94

The fact that Buddhism is a religion complete with idols and spells and myths and special clothes. And 500 million followers.

How dare buddhism have myths, clothes and 500 million followers

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Idols- well they have images and statues. Not necessarily the same thing.

Spells- no, you are incorrect. Buddhism is not based on a belief in magic, far from it.

deadhead94 · 04-21-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by farmergiles

Spells- no, you are incorrect. Buddhism is not based on a belief in magic, far from it.

Fuck you.

You aren't adventure, you should know I was derisively (here's a definition of that word, just in case you are adventure) referring to the religious practice of having special things you have to say to get in to the club.

TheWhite50Cent · 04-21-2012, 05:52 PM

Some people did this when George W Bush got reelected.

Also, the first thought that came to my mind was," Why is this 35 year old oriental woman starting herself on fire when she could be bobbing on the tip of my stiff prick?"

farmergiles · 04-21-2012, 05:52 PM

fuck this fuck that, there you go again deadhead.

No I don't need a dictionary to understand the meaning of the word derisive and if I did there are plenty online.

And if you think the word ohm is needed to get into a club then you are missing the point.

deadhead94 · 04-21-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by farmergiles

fuck this fuck that, there you go again deadhead.

No I don't need a dictionary to understand the meaning of the word derisive and if I did there are plenty online.

And if you think the word ohm is needed to get into a club then you are missing the point.

clearly you aren't adventure.

also, Buddhism has prayers and shit.

Sir-Ex · 04-21-2012, 06:07 PM

Prayers.

The true enemy.

farmergiles · 04-21-2012, 06:16 PM

Goddam prayers

.

wellfleation · 04-21-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lloydy

bloody stupid way to protest if you ask me.

And talk about a bad way to go. On fucking fire! You got to be kidding me.

wellfleation · 04-21-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by farmergiles

Goddam prayers

.

There is something weird about grown men believing in a sky fairy. Just saying.

Sir-Ex · 04-21-2012, 06:52 PM

Tomatoes .. um.. tomatoes. I think a lot of the stuff 'grown men' do is weird, including play with little handheld devices that communicate with their own type of sky fairy.

04-21-2012, 04:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lloydy KTF Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: England Posts: 15,439 Thanks: 685 Thanked 3,054 Times in 1,416 Posts	bloody stupid way to protest if you ask me. __________________ Keep the red flag flying high

04-21-2012, 04:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,288 Thanks: 2,673 Thanked 4,646 Times in 3,020 Posts	The Chinese occupation is not as black and white as some my suggest. Tibet has been a feudal society under the Buddhists for a long time- the Maoists would not have found any sympathy if the society had been egalitarian in the first place. Not that I'm saying the Chinese are in the right, just saying there are two sides to this story. The Dalai Lama is probably the most proficient of all current religious leaders in using modern media to get his point across. Just saying. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

04-21-2012, 05:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 14,344 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,063 Times in 2,367 Posts	Damn 500 million? I didn't know it was as popular as that. Sweet. As far as religions go Buddhism is pretty awesome. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

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TheWhite50Cent Decade Yahookan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere Posts: 7,045 Thanks: 1,669 Thanked 1,695 Times in 967 Posts	Some people did this when George W Bush got reelected. Also, the first thought that came to my mind was," Why is this 35 year old oriental woman starting herself on fire when she could be bobbing on the tip of my stiff prick?" __________________ If one man kills a hundred men, and another man masters himself, the second man is the much greater warrior. -Buddha When you transform your mind, everything you experience is transformed. -Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.

04-21-2012, 05:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,288 Thanks: 2,673 Thanked 4,646 Times in 3,020 Posts	fuck this fuck that, there you go again deadhead. No I don't need a dictionary to understand the meaning of the word derisive and if I did there are plenty online. And if you think the word ohm is needed to get into a club then you are missing the point. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

04-21-2012, 06:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 14,344 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,063 Times in 2,367 Posts	Prayers. The true enemy. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

04-21-2012, 06:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,288 Thanks: 2,673 Thanked 4,646 Times in 3,020 Posts	Goddam prayers . __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

04-21-2012, 06:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 14,344 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,063 Times in 2,367 Posts	Tomatoes .. um.. tomatoes. I think a lot of the stuff 'grown men' do is weird, including play with little handheld devices that communicate with their own type of sky fairy. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

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