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Old 11-08-2014, 01:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You lose all credibility when you say I don't work. I've gone over this with you before. I work about 30 hours a week (it has gone down a little recently, not as many jobs coming in after summer) at a job you wouldn't be able to handle if your life depended on it. It's the same kind of brutal, old-fashioned work that very few people are suckers enough to take. Even a lot of the Mexicans out here don't want it because they can get jobs with the city that pay literally 3X as much with benefits and steady work.
oh my god, even the mexicans! you are offensive, not open and honest
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You lose all credibility when you say I don't work. I've gone over this with you before. I work about 30 hours a week (it has gone down a little recently, not as many jobs coming in after summer) at a job you wouldn't be able to handle if your life depended on it. It's the same kind of brutal, old-fashioned work that very few people are suckers enough to take. Even a lot of the Mexicans out here don't want it because they can get jobs with the city that pay literally 3X as much with benefits and steady work.
you should do what i did

you'd be amazed how good you can feel through the sense of superiority you get when you advance in a trade faster than people who have done it for over 10 years
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:22 PM   #24 (permalink)
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At least Sok is working. There's too many people in America that feel entitled to more pay than they can earn and won't ever take an entry level job.

Grieves are you doing alright? You seem very angry lately.


I can't give great job advice aside from network, network, network! and as Slunt mentioned the trades pay well. My brother recently for a union job and he's making a good amount of money, but you can't be afraid to wake up at 5 am and get your hands dirty.
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Frig off...You quit that job months ago...

Or did you go crying back to your uncle for a reduced workload?

lol @ thinking that your minimum wage manual labor job that you got out of pity is anything special. Double lol @ 30 hours a week, thats like 6 hrs a day, which probably equals out to 5 hours of on the clock work due to a lunch break and then about 3 hours after all the standing around, complaining and breaks that you take...

By the sounds of your whiney drivel above, the only person who can't handle that job is you. All you do is complain about how hard it is while patting yourself on the back and insulting any other job that anyone else does.
Plus mommy and daddy subsidize.
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:31 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Grieves are you doing alright? You seem very angry lately.
Still butthurt from yesterday?

I am no different than any other time. I've been reluctant to jump on the pity SoK train from day one.

If the guy hates his life so much, the only person who can do anything about it is himself. Complaining about it here will accomplish nothing, he has said it himself, we are just words on a screen that don't mean anything to him. We can type out meaningful advice and well wishes, and make ourselves feel better by trying to help the downtrodden until our fingers bleed but it is all falling on deaf ears.

He did accomplish one thing today though, he did all the attention he wanted. So I guess that is something.
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:35 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Even a lot of the Mexicans out here don't want it because they can get jobs with the city that pay literally 3X as much with benefits and steady work.
Of course they don't want it if they could make 3X as much doing something else, who the fuck would? Has nothing to do with degree of difficulty.
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:42 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 11-08-2014, 02:01 PM   #29 (permalink)
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. Even a lot of the Mexicans out here don't want it because they can get jobs with the city that pay literally 3X as much with benefits and steady work.
Why dont you do that too then? ...

oh yeah, that's right, everything you say is BS. I forgot.
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you should do what i did

you'd be amazed how good you can feel through the sense of superiority you get when you advance in a trade faster than people who have done it for over 10 years

You'd also be amazed at how easy it is too in many cases.

One of the main things ive learned while working on job sites, is that 90% of the people working there in any given trade are total shlubs.
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Old 11-08-2014, 02:15 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Strong thread,

Poverty is by choice
Can't tell if serious....

Your post was a choice.
My reply is a choice.

Poverty can be a choice....

But it is more often not a choice,
for various and sundry reasons, my friend.
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Old 11-08-2014, 02:52 PM   #33 (permalink)
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It's tough and nobody cares if you talk or not, just work.
Once you learn the ropes on land rigs you can join in on the fun of Off-Shore Arctic Oil Exploration Rigs.
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No. He is making the same bullshit excuses, and throwing around the same shit insults. Me "harshing" him does far less damage than you being an enabler to his shit talking, excuse making, pussy ass, feel sorry for himself, hate the world shit attitude.

Just as much as depression can be fog that a person can't see through, it can also be a crutch and a shield to get people to feel sorry for the individual and to continue to allow them to keep circling around the same patterns and habits that put them in their position in the first place. He is "depressed" because he sits around smoking pot, not working, not fostering any real interests or hobbies and not putting any real effort towards being a self-sustaining person. You can blame "depression" all you want, but it is just laziness.

The asshole doesn't need more coddling. He needs a firm kick in the ass and someone to show him that it is unacceptable to live the way that he does with the attitude he has.
I was subjected to that same "all he needs is a swift kick" approach from my parents as a kid, and I think it's a cop out. It's easy to just throw up your hands and try to solve a problem by forcing it, rather than understanding what a person is going through and getting into dealing with what's actually holding them back. For me, it just made me defiant, angry, and in greater and greater doubt of my own ability to handle life.

Telling SoK to "just get over yourself" is ridiculous. If a person believes that life is a rigged game, and everything sucks, and whatever else you think he believes, there are real reasons for that. What's holding him back, regardless of what you think of it, is real for him. Maybe he IS hiding from life. However, if you're unwilling to ask "Why?" then you're just writing him off as a person from the beginning. How do you expect anyone to respond to that?

When you're dealing with another person, you can't cut that person out of the equation and expect things to work.



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Sure sometimes im depressed, but it never lasts any longer than it should.
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It's almost like telling someone with a severed leg,
that you know that feeling cause some times your leg goes to sleep,
and seems like it's not there.

Capital Depression is definitely not just being bummed for a while.

Much like the leg analogy....
It's immobilising, but you can still learn to get around and enjoy life.
But it doesn't go away.
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I was subjected to that same "all he needs is a swift kick" approach from my parents as a kid, and I think it's a cop out. It's easy to just throw up your hands and try to solve a problem by forcing it, rather than understanding what a person is going through and getting into dealing with what's actually holding them back. For me, it just made me defiant, angry, and in greater and greater doubt of my own ability to handle life.

Telling SoK to "just get over yourself" is ridiculous. If a person believes that life is a rigged game, and everything sucks, and whatever else you think he believes, there are real reasons for that. What's holding him back, regardless of what you think of it, is real for him. Maybe he IS hiding from life. However, if you're unwilling to ask "Why?" then you're just writing him off as a person from the beginning. How do you expect anyone to respond to that?

When you're dealing with another person, you can't cut that person out of the equation and expect things to work.



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Projections aside, but the fucks were all given when he acted like a defiant child to people who wanted nothing more than just to shoot the shit, time and time and time and time and time and time and time again...

You can only use the excuse, "oh so and so is just being themselves" for so long before you either grow tired of it and don't want to deal with it/them any longer or you turn into a complacent asshole who has put up with the lowest common denominator out of nothing more than the assumption that you can "help" by allowing them to "work it out on their own"...
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:14 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I was subjected to that same "all he needs is a swift kick" approach from my parents as a kid, and I think it's a cop out. It's easy to just throw up your hands and try to solve a problem by forcing it, rather than understanding what a person is going through and getting into dealing with what's actually holding them back. For me, it just made me defiant, angry, and in greater and greater doubt of my own ability to handle life.

Telling SoK to "just get over yourself" is ridiculous. If a person believes that life is a rigged game, and everything sucks, and whatever else you think he believes, there are real reasons for that. What's holding him back, regardless of what you think of it, is real for him. Maybe he IS hiding from life. However, if you're unwilling to ask "Why?" then you're just writing him off as a person from the beginning. How do you expect anyone to respond to that?

When you're dealing with another person, you can't cut that person out of the equation and expect things to work.



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He is sounding delusional and projecting his own work habits or what he's witnessed in others onto me. That is why I have written him off too. His reasoning might be my posting habits? That he assumes I overreport my hours and count lunch breaks and standing around as time on clock.

Doesn't happen on my job. There are plenty of jobs that way. This isn't one of them.

You bring up a good point. I face the facts that it's both myself and my environment to blame for my predicament. I've split all the hairs on that one by myself and come to the conclusion that I have to take action or be content with what I am. Take risks, do or die.

I don't mind criticism. I like reading your posts and derive insight from them and other ones from several people. I am too smart to be affected by anything negative on here though. My mind has 'been there done that' already with what grieves said or any insult. It races faster than anyone could imagine. It's a nonstop fucking machine.
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He is sounding delusional and projecting his own work habits or what he's witnessed in others onto me. That is why I have written him off too. His reasoning might be my posting habits? That he assumes I overreport my hours and count lunch breaks and standing around as time on clock.

Doesn't happen on my job. There are plenty of jobs that way. This isn't one of them.

You bring up a good point. I face the facts that it's both myself and my environment to blame for my predicament. I've split all the hairs on that one by myself and come to the conclusion that I have to take action or be content with what I am. Take risks, do or die.

I don't mind criticism. I like reading your posts and derive insight from them and other ones from several people. I am too smart to be affected by anything negative on here though. My mind has 'been there done that' already with what grieves said or any insult. It races faster than anyone could imagine. It's a nonstop fucking machine.
Hey SoK baby, "why" do you feel the way that you do?

Please tell us so we can put you back together...
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Hey SoK baby, "why" do you feel the way that you do?

Please tell us so we can put you back together...
Don't be sarcastic, Grieves.

Love you.



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