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Old 11-08-2014, 04:28 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I really feel like my personhood is being negated by you assuming that I am being sarcastic. How is it going to work when you do that?
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:30 PM   #42 (permalink)
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It's almost like telling someone with a severed leg,
that you know that feeling cause some times your leg goes to sleep,
and seems like it's not there.

Capital Depression is definitely not just being bummed for a while.

Much like the leg analogy....
It's immobilising, but you can still learn to get around and enjoy life.
But it doesn't go away.
Responsibility side vs outside of their control side. Which one is it? In order to reach someone, you first have to understand/appeal to them by empathizing, then you go in for the attack after you figure out how much they're capable of, and that's when the kick in the ass can make a difference.

I'd say 99% of all people with severe depression aren't doing everything they can. It's a shame there aren't smarter people to reach them and place the kick in the right part of the ass.
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:33 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Hey SoK baby, "why" do you feel the way that you do?

Please tell us so we can put you back together...
I know you see things in me you identify in yourself. You're trying to confront your own conscience, otherwise you'd ignore me or the posts would be more like stoneric's.

There are some buttons being pushed. Why don't you start with what is bothering you? I already shared.

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Old 11-08-2014, 04:37 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I know you see things in me you identify in yourself. You're trying to confront your own conscience, otherwise you'd ignore me or the posts would be more like stoneric's.

There are some buttons being pushed. Why don't you start with what is bothering you? I already shared.

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Nice attempt to turn the mirror bub.
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:38 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I think SoK said something pretty valid - you do or you don't.

That's pretty much it.

Either you do something or you don't do something, then you die. It's up to you.
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:40 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Responsibility side vs outside of their control side. Which one is it? In order to reach someone, you first have to understand/appeal to them by empathizing, then you go in for the attack after you figure out how much they're capable of, and that's when the kick in the ass can make a difference.

I'd say 99% of all people with severe depression aren't doing everything they can. It's a shame there aren't smarter people to reach them and place the kick in the right part of the ass.
So let's say you were that person to yourself...

What would you say to him, brother?
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:59 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I am too smart to be affected by anything negative on here though.
Mama always taught me that if you are that smart or that great at something, people will notice.
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:03 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Mama always taught me that if you are that smart or that great at something, people will notice.
To add, people who have to announce it usually are full of it.

Anyone with any true intelligence has more tact than that.
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:05 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Still butthurt from yesterday?

I am no different than any other time. I've been reluctant to jump on the pity SoK train from day one.

If the guy hates his life so much, the only person who can do anything about it is himself. Complaining about it here will accomplish nothing, he has said it himself, we are just words on a screen that don't mean anything to him. We can type out meaningful advice and well wishes, and make ourselves feel better by trying to help the downtrodden until our fingers bleed but it is all falling on deaf ears.

He did accomplish one thing today though, he did all the attention he wanted. So I guess that is something.

I'm feeling much better now thank you for asking.

He doesn't really bother me. I don't see any reason to attack someone that is already down even if they have a poor disposition. As he as stated many times he isn't content with his life.
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:06 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Finding a job is not easy, regardless of how skilled you are.

It can be easy, if you have an established network of relationships that have been built from previous employment or social reasons.

Also, keeping a job may not be easy, and could be very well out of your control. I agree that hard work can pull someone out of poverty, but if the third world and recent American economics are any indication, there are a lot more forces at play.

Also, acquiring new skills is not easy if you can't pay the bills to begin with. Even harder if you have loved ones that also need your time and money.

But, it can be done, it will all depend on your own resolve and your own time/money management skills and what you're willing to sacrifice in the short term for the horizon. It's getting that first foot in the door that's the hardest, but once it's done like Geeno more and more doors start opening up for you.

Having high intellect with no vision or drive is more useless than a retard who knows exactly what he's supposed to do.
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:12 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I've moved a lot and sought work in all but one of those places.
And I've managed to find work, often THE kind of work, I wanted within 2-3 weeks.
If not the kind of work, right away, I did so shortly after.

Feel its worth adding here.
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It's probably harder to say no to White Guy Jesus than say someone with SoK's temperament.
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So anyway...let's assume that not everybody has deep debilitating bouts of depression and would just like to get a good paying job and they have no problem with hard work.
What then?
It's critical to your job search to be versatile. can you go out of town?, Can you work graveyard shift or weekends? Can you work unsupervised? The more yes scenarios you have the more jobs become open to you.

Note= Job or no job, family comes first. You do not miss important events in your families lives to make a dollar.
Work to live NOT live to work!
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+ I've battled with and coped with Depression since I was 16.

I feel the feels. I know the down. I know the doubt.
I know it ain't easy.

Can't figure if the appearance helped or people saw past it in all cases.
Outside of plants I've had some diverse jobs and volunteer experience.
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Old 11-08-2014, 06:32 PM   #55 (permalink)
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So let's say you were that person to yourself...

What would you say to him, brother?
A million things. I go to war with myself a lot. One resolution I've come up with is I don't have clinical depression. I can be happy again someday if I get the stability I once had back. A good job is all I need.

I think it's all millions of people need, along with some other unpopular methods that worked for me.

But I do believe in clinical depression that is unresponsive to all of the above, to some extent.
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I really feel like my personhood is being negated by you assuming that I am being sarcastic. How is it going to work when you do that?


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SoK if full of shit. He forgets which persona he's playing. They all suck.
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One pre job skill I learned over the years was the Job "Set Up" where you phone potential employers before taking a course or training program. Ask them what training they look for in a potential employee and then inform them of the training you are taking. This is a foot in the door technique which lets an employer know you are coming and that you are trained in something they specifically mentioned. Makes it hard for them to say no later.
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