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Old 11-16-2016, 06:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Geeno I need you! (power tool advice)

I think I remember you had a power tool thread once, so I figured you might have a thought on the matter. Would also love input from anyone else who knows their shit.

Makita tools. Still quality?

Thinking about buying a drill / hammer driver. It would be my first cordless power tool, so I'm somewhat looking for a brand in general (for battery swaps). The specific one I'm looking at is 18v (barely more expensive than the 12v, and seems like the battery would fit more tools), 1/2".
Tool would be used for minor work on car, home stuff (nothing more heavy duty than building a deck), etc.
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Dewalt seems to be slightly cheaper than makita for the same specs, but I remember hearing they've gone the way of black and decker.
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Dewalt makes screw guns comparable to Hilti for less than half the price, as far as drywall goes. Not sure why it would be junk.
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heard a couple old geezes at the hardware store talking about it's chinese and doesn't last anymore. probably full of shit though.

and yea hilti seems WAY out of my price range.

right now thinking i can source an 18v brushless makita drill + a cheap 70 piece bit set all new for $75. Another $25 for a non-oem battery + $35 for a charger. So $135 total. Or I could get all oem for about $150 ($170 with the bits).

More than I should probably drop right now, but seems like a good bang for the buck. Haven't priced out a dewalt individually yet, but could get the same thing for $195 all oem ($215 with bits).

Non-brushless dewalt comes in cheaper than makita, but only marginally (like $10 on a drill/charger/battery combo kit).
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Old 11-17-2016, 04:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Makita is a great brand.

I could have a lot to say about this but here's a couple thoughts:

Do you need cordless?
Are you srs?
Non oem batteries - nah fam
12v Milwaukee = impressive/cheap (rotary hammer drill/portanband are like 120 each)

As always: buy cheap shit and upgrade as you see fit. More later BRB work.
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I agree go Milwaukee.. In the last year my crew has burnt up many many power tools, and the Milwaukee tools held up the best, the Dewalt saws are shit and their drills aren't what they used to be... I don't care for makita tools either, my guys are too tough on them.
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Yeah just consider what you're really going to be doing with them. The only reason I even keep full sized drill is for hole saws and the occasional big hole in some angle iron. Otherwise I'd prob keep 12v and just have some corded stuff like saws and 1/2 " impact.

But I keep all dewalt 20v and tbh their quality is varied. I've had pretty good luck and good customer service the one time my radio went gay.
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Thanks for the input geeno, appreciate it.

I think chordless would be preferable for me. have to work on my car in a public parking lot with no outlets, etc.

The buy cheap and upgrade thing is something I've always followed for non-power tools (just buy a walmart set, then if I use something enough to break it, it's worth getting quality), but I just don't want to have to buy (expensive as fuck) batteries more than once.

Think I'll go with either a dewalt or makita brushed motor, 20/18v (same thing). Should be either $65 or $75 (with charger and battery), which is more in line with my budget (and about what an oem charger + battery would cost on its own anyway). That way if I ever need a super nice brushless or compact one I could still use the same charger/batteries. Will have to look at milwaukee more though.
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I have Milwaukee portaband sawzall & magnum ½" drill motor all most excellent 110v tools
Older craftsman r-angle grinders (& other tools) = v good
Old Makita batt drill (with the looong handle) = v good

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Tell me what tools you want and I'll find best deals later
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just a quality drill for now. probably an impact driver not far down the road. can't think of anything else i wouldn't rather do corded really.

don't feel like you gotta search around though. probably end up getting it used at a pawn shop or something anyway.

impression i'm getting is all the major brands are good enough and i should just go for the deal. and stick with oem batteries.
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The industry trend is for 20v cordless now. 18v is being phased out and replacement batteries will be harder to get in the future..
If you use every day then Makita, Milwaukee or Dewalt stand up fairly well and come with good warranties. Bosch and Hilti are the Cadillac brands.
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"The industry trend is for 20v cordless now. 18v is being phased out and replacement batteries will be harder to get in the future.."

18v and 20v max are the same thing, it turns out. they each have 5 cells with 3.6v nominal, 4v max. 5x3.6=18, 5x4=20. That's why 20v always says max next to it. just a brand thing.

"If you use every day then Makita, Milwaukee or Dewalt stand up fairly well"

glad to hear there's a consensus that the major brands all hold up. I won't be using it every day, but i'd rather get more than I need. I've had two (very, very, cheap) battery drills before. The first's battery died and wouldn't recharge. The second couldn't drive a framing screw into a 2x4. Would rather only buy one more.
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Its worth mentioning again that im really impressed by milwaukee 12v line. Short of taking a tire off, not much you cant do with that platform.
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oh also ive shilled this site before but ToolGuyd has awesome info on new technology, tool reviews and sales.

This time of the season it looks like an ad site but im fairly confident the owner is relatively unbiased/not paid for.
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buy after Xmas when everything is on sale. didnt know about the 18v/20v thing...do they fit the same?
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probably not lol. don't want people to ask why when they gotta buy new batteries

and good call on the after christmas thing
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