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Old 07-20-2002, 12:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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[quote]The death of these three pigs is not tragic in my opinion, nor were the actions which led to the accident heroic. So fuck them.<hr></blockquote>

I'd have to say that I agree with both sides of this argument. It's my opinion that anyone who enforces prohibition is my enemy, of which I have absolutely no compassion for. Still, I can look through their professions and see that they were people, and people who experienced what was most likely a very shitty death.

To move past that point, here's what I was wondering: If you talked to these three individuals before they left the ground and asked them if policing marijuana smokers was worth dying for, even if they knew for certain that there was an almost certain chance of them dying a few hours later.. I wonder if they'd have still taken off to perform their duty, or if they would have walked away from the airstrip?

If they would have said no and walked away, I'd be very forgiving and maybe even show some compassion and understanding. If they were die-hard and took off anyway... fuck them. Fuck anyone who thinks policing a flower is a cause worthy of dying for.
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Old 07-20-2002, 12:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Thumbs up to all the responses here. The media makes these bastards out to be heroes. The real issue has been bypassed here though. The 14th amendment of the Constitution of the United States says there shall be equal protection under the law. Therefore, if I am to be protected from cannabis, then I should also be protected from tobacco and alcohol. The men that died took an oath to uphold the Constitution when they took office. They were flying over tobacco fields with no intention of eradication when they died. In fact, they protect and subsidize tobacco, which kills 500,000 people in Amerikka every year. Not to mention the sickness caused by tobacco. Alcohol kills 150,000 every year. It also causes a lot of sickness. Cannabis kills NO ONE, save the three assholes. They were victims of the prohibition. The question arose as to whether or not they would die for this cause, even if they knew. According to the story in the paper, they would have been more than willing to. When they took off from the airstrip, they showed this. What a poor cause to die for. Of course, the local media makes them out to be heroes. They were actually cowards. Most people that use cannabis are peaceful. I know I am. They carry weapons and use military tactics on peaceful people. This is the comparison to the Nazis. They force many problems at gunpoint on cannabis users. Our tax dollars should go to protect us from real criminals. I appreciate all the feedback on this topic. I am grateful for Yahooka.
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Old 07-28-2002, 12:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Alright, there's nothing like kicking a dead horse several times when a point isn't made that does anything but make me happy. Forgive me for not quoting many of the people, mainly because most of them other than Patriot are complete vapid idiots that should put the bong down a second and read a fricken book. Someone made a comment that entailed that a cop who puts on a badge, goes out, and dies performing his duty is not a hero. Here's my question for this person, when did your brain stop functioning? I mean honestly, these guys go out there EVERYDAY and see to it that madmen with gun's don't end blowing your sorry ass away. These are men who stop the billion's of dollars of the hard narcotic's from felling more of our people. Bullshit putting on that badge doesn't make that person a hero. You think we don't need police, firefighters, and the slew of other authority figures? If so you are a fool. They're about to help protect you, sometimes from yourself, yes, but most often from someone else who is crazy enough to want to destroy what small bit of peace we have. Also, allow me to apologize if my entire LIFE doesn't revolve around marijuana, smoking it or liberating its usage. We all hold duel life-styles, if you claim differently you're plain and simply lying. And Patriot, good point on the fourteenth amendment, but again, one slight flaw. Granted those men flew over tobacco fields without the slightest thought of destroying them, but then again that wasn't what their concern was. They were out flying in search of narcotic's, and that was their job. If an accountant, a burger-flipper, and garbage man, or anyone else is a hero for performing their set task in society, why are these men any different? Because they work against YOUR cause? Because its easy to label them as the enemy? Anyone who has been arrested for simple marijuana charges should know that the majority of the time, unless the cop as a person is just an ass, the police are normally very polite of the matter. They understand the foolishness of the law, but honestly, right now its for the best. So like I've stated before, just keep the damn bowl down low when smoking out in public, and chill out. Unity is grand, but right now lets not fool ourselves, we're only uniting with ourselves. The rest of society still won't smile upon us until we prove to them that we're not all some idiotic, pot-smoking, burned out, jackass' that don't know a proper argument from a hole in the ground. Hat's off to you Patriot, try to keep these teamless in masses in line so they don't ruin it for those of us who actually care.
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Old 07-31-2002, 08:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by Mr. G Hiser:
<strong>Someone made a comment that entailed that a cop who puts on a badge, goes out, and dies performing his duty is not a hero. Here's my question for this person, when did your brain stop functioning? I mean honestly, these guys go out there EVERYDAY and see to it that madmen with gun's don't end blowing your sorry ass away. These are men who stop the billion's of dollars of the hard narcotic's from felling more of our people. Bullshit putting on that badge doesn't make that person a hero. You think we don't need police, firefighters, and the slew of other authority figures? .</strong><hr></blockquote>


you seem like a pretty smart guy, G, but apparently you have the ability to not let that get in your way.

A cop dying an accidental death while on duty is NOT a hero. Not unless a pizza delivery guy dying in a traffic accident is as well. No, he's just another worker who died accidentally and tragically whilst on the job. Now, if he was gunned down while trying to stop an armed robbery or something you'd have a point, but unfortunately you're just a complete vapid idiot.

In fact, to use your own worthless logic against you, which is really it's only use, these guys are not as you say 'out there EVERYDAY seeing to it that madmen with gun's don't end blowing your sorry ass away'. They are not the 'men who stop the billion's of dollars of the hard narcotic's from felling more of our people.' They are, or were, cops wasting law enforcement budgets trying to spot a specific foliage, which necessarily prevents them from doing those higher priority functions you purported.

Now I don't know much about the high drama life-on-the-razor's-edge routine of a fine arts student, but as a firefighter in the 3rd largest department in North America I do know a thing or two about routine duty and acts of bravery. So let's not confuse accidents with heroics lest we dilute the honor we owe those who selflessly laid down their lives to save others'
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Old 08-03-2002, 06:35 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Maybe those cops used to snatch a little weed for themselves.
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Old 08-17-2002, 03:30 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I would stand up, if I wasn't sitting down. Well bravo mister fighter-man, you have found a way to turn the argument about onto me. I must at least applaude you for such grand effort's. But wait a minute, how sad is it that you had to turn a weak night of when I was stoned to spin the argument about a PERSON's life into some offensive critique. Here's an idea, I think I smell something burning, it's called your ego. Sit your ass down son and do some careful thinking about where your priorities lay. Damn, we're talking people having died here doing a set duty. So here's my final word, when you fall out of a tree trying to get a kitten down, I won't think you died in that perfectly swell heroic way, because alas, you didn't run into a burning building filled with high explosive's to rescue a class of kindergarteners.
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Old 12-17-2002, 02:01 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 12-17-2002, 03:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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heroes...NOT!

the word hero is thrown around way too much these days, really. I don't hink you're a hero when you're just doing your job. i think you're a hero when you go above and beyond.
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Old 12-17-2002, 04:00 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Supermang isnt a fucking hero; he's just doing his job
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Old 09-07-2004, 09:09 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Old 09-07-2004, 09:16 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Why? Its 2 years old and pretty irrelevant now.......
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Old 09-07-2004, 09:24 PM   #32 (permalink)
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No it isn't. This shit happens every day. I don't mean the crashing of the chopper, but the fact that this is what the pigs do every day. Surveying our activities from the air, a la George Orwell.

Check out seeyageorge.com. There's a slogan on there: "One nation, under Surveillance."

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Old 09-07-2004, 09:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I would prefer that they had gone to prison, lost their family and money, released to a halfway house, worn an ankle bracelet, had to piss in a cup once or twice a week, and got shot by a snitch. They're dead all the same but they should have suffered a lot more. Fuck em'.
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Old 09-07-2004, 09:47 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:14 PM   #35 (permalink)
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i disagree. humans are humans, and three of them died died tragically today. take it up with the government, not people doing their jobs. show some compassion.
Like any of them give a shit when a pothead dies...please

These fuckers want to JAIL me for growing a few plants in the back woods and wanting to make a bit of tax-free money off it.

Sorry for the families, but I have no sympathy for a cop dying. Fuck 'em!

A pig's job is 10% helping people, 90% sticking their nose in people's private business.
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This thread seriously make me sick my stomach. This whole I hope they (peace officers) all die/Cop Killa attitude will get you know where. Ask the black community how well it worked? If you don't like the laws, elect an official who will change them for you. If you cannot find one that supports your views, run for office yourself. We do live in a republic, by the people. Officials only get into office because YOU vote for them.

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This thread seriously make me sick my stomach. This whole I hope they (peace officers)
Hate to break this to you, but they were not "peace officers."

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Old 03-06-2005, 02:35 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Speedbump.......

Same thread, same responses. It just goes on and on. You cannot solve a problem without fixing the cause.
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Let's please not lose perspective here. We're not against the cops, we're against the drug war. We're not against the cops, we're against the tasers. We're not against the police, we're against the brutality. Get it? ALL life is precious.

Please God, when you rapture the Christians, could you please take the muslims, jews, and all the other warring religions, too? Then maybe the rest of us can have some peace.

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