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Old 07-18-2002, 10:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Post Scratch 3 more assholes.....

While flying around trying to spot those dangerous marijuana plants and using our taxpayer dollars against us, the plane crashed killing all 3 agents aboard. I have no sympathy. 3 more victims of a useless prohibition that is only there to keep these assholes employed and to protect the profits of Corporate Amerikka. They got what they deserve. Death sentence.
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Old 07-18-2002, 10:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i disagree. humans are humans, and three of them died died tragically today. take it up with the government, not people doing their jobs. show some compassion.
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Old 07-18-2002, 10:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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aw crap. tragic yes, but these are probably the same breed of asshole cops that bust your ass for the shake left in your bag. They have discretion to enforce the laws but go overboard too often. You get caught with a couple of doobs and the bastards screw you then tell you you're lucky they don't slap you with trafficking as well. oh great, thanks for not busting me for something I'm not doing. thank you pig, for not lying in court about my activities.

they will ruin your life and can make you a social outcast in your own community, and then laugh about it in the lunchroom. this is a war and i have little pity. I can only say that it's just bad karma.

condolences to the families, and peace to their souls in the bardo...
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Old 07-18-2002, 11:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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let me rephrase what i said...don't talk shit about dead people, it's disrespectful. agreed?
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Old 07-18-2002, 11:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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not really. honesty is the best policy. I won't denigrate them personally, but I will take issue with their former societal function and their accomplices. agreed?
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[quote]Originally posted by Prophet of Doob:
<strong>not really. honesty is the best policy. I won't denigrate them personally, but I will take issue with their former societal function and their accomplices. agreed?</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Old 07-19-2002, 12:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Look at it anyway u want, by saying that 3 people u have never met before, had no idea existed, deserved to die, it is not right at all. Nobody deserves to die.
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Old 07-19-2002, 11:43 AM   #9 (permalink)
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sorry, but bush and ashcroft deserve to die, and having just woken up and being rather grumpy, i agree with patriot. I have no sympathy for those three "air cops" who ruin the lives of innocent Americans each year, just as i have no sympathy for Hitler's underlings who were "just doing their jobs" when they ruined the lives of six million jews.

If Bush got assassinated right now, I'd probably go out and celebrate with a blunt. If Ashcroft got assassinated right now I'd probably drop some acid.
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[quote]Originally posted by kameelyun:
<strong>I have no sympathy for those three "air cops" who ruin the lives of innocent Americans each year, just as i have no sympathy for Hitler's underlings who were "just doing their jobs" when they ruined the lives of six million jews.
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sorry mang, but as ambivelant as I am I can draw no corelation between dead cops and nazis.
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Old 07-19-2002, 07:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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cops are nazis and just like hitler hinch men killed 6.000.000 jew's. bushes hinch men thow
500.000 pepole in preson a year for Marijuana

think about that !
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Old 07-19-2002, 09:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Alright, instead of looking at this in terms of_them_hunting down_our_crops, let's view from teh outside source for just one brief moment, shall we? Three_people_died doing what they were paid to do, stop the influx of narcotic's to the city streets. Now I smoke marijuana on a daily basis, and I don't exactly agree on the set laws that apply to myself either. But that's regardless from the facts at hand. These people are essentially hero's, even though they do work against us. Marijuana itself is not a horrid drug in comparison to others, at least it's not if used wisely. But there is the one catch to it, it's a mind altering substance. And like all substances that can change the perception of person's thought, it HAS to be controlled. Right now the main way of doing that is through using the legal implication of considering a 'narcotic', something which I'm sure ninty percent of you, including me, feels is completely uncalled for. But more facts do arise, like marijuana can lead to using other substances, not because of WHAT its is, but because of WHO uses it. Now lets face reality, the majority of us who use it also have tried various other things, LSD, mushrooms, E, and the variety of other 'innocent' narcotic's. And the question is, would any of us had been the least bit interested in them unless we knew people, that we puffed with on a regular occasion, who had also either tried them or used then frequently? My answer is that I would never had tried the plentiful amount of drugs that checker my past if I never began smoking marijuana. That's the grounding for these current laws, and the rational for people being employed to hunt down fields of our crops. And three of these men died doing their duty for the non-narcotic using population of our country. It's a depressing thing that this had to occur, but its equally horrific that I know of at least ten people who felt that this was a victory for the 'pot-heads' of America. And this anything but a victory, it's a time for mourning loss of innocent life in a war against our own people. I ask this of all of you who read this, whether or not you agree with me... The next time you light up, buy a bag, roll a joint or blunt, or even just think of doing so, take a moment of silence for those who perished. You might consider them enemies, but I assure you that others thought of them as family and friends, so please... Don't disgrace their names any longer.
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It is written in the Emporer how the prohibition compares to the Third Reich. People that choose to use cannabis are innocent just as the people who chose to be Jewish were in Nazi Germany. Prohibition makes criminals out of people who would not ordinarily be criminals. Anyone that supports prohibition supports crime and drug dealers. Such were the three assholes that died in the crash. Looking to eradicate people's medicine. Looking to make people's lives worse because they believe in the profits of Corporate Amerikka. I enjoy the fact the internet is here so we can have web sites like Yahooka. People that created the internet, no matter what their citizenship may be, created a totally different world where we can all post our opinions and get other viewpoints to them. The creation of the internet is one good side of Corporate Amerikka. The fact that there are 7 million barrels of toxic pollution imported into the country every day while agents fly airplanes to look for the same plant that could alleviate all of this is just one very bad side. I personally do not enjoy breathing poison in every day life, especially when I know I don't have to. Industrial hemp could replace the oil and coal industries, and add to the paper, food, and textile industries, all that would be far less polluting than what we use now. The American farmers would be reaping the profits from this as well. And assholes have to fly around to keep this from happening. Like I said, I have no sympathy.
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Old 07-19-2002, 10:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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"People that choose to use cannabis are innocent just as the people who chose to be Jewish were in Nazi Germany"

wow, you can choose to be of Jewish blood now?...seriously, thats one of the dumbest analogies ive ever heard
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Old 07-20-2002, 01:09 AM   #15 (permalink)
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'People that choose to use cannabis are innocent just as the people who chose to be Jewish were in Nazi Germany. Prohibition makes criminals out of people who would not ordinarily be criminals. Anyone that supports prohibition supports crime and drug dealers. Such were the three assholes that died in the crash'

All I have to say to that is bravo on the most pointless piece of trite that I've had the displeasure of reading in quite some time. In response to the first part:

'People that choose to use cannabis are innocent just as the people who chose to be Jewish were in Nazi Germany'

This is hardly a just comparison to the tragedy of the attempted genocide of the Jewish population during the rise of of the Nazi force. Shall we examine this statement just slightly? I think we should. The Jewish people of Germany and the surrounding area had no_choice_in their religious beliefs. They were born Hebrews and thus were wrongly prosecuted. Those of us that have_chosen_to smoke marijuana have done so under the complete understanding of the legal implications involved. We all know that punishment is dealt out depending on quanity and situation. If you entered this life-style without such knowledge then it is plain and simple that you only fooled yourself.

'Prohibition makes criminals out of people who would not ordinarily be criminals'

This is true, very very true. As with the infamous failure that was the prohibition of alcohol proved. There is only one very slight problem with this. Alcohol is widely consumed, very much so. And even though marijuana user's do not lack in their numbers, lets face it that there are not enough, who are also willing, to stand and take action. The key here is making criminals out innocents, but yet again those who sell and consume the product have to know the possible results of their actions. A key to it all is saftey, technically you're breaking the law, but it is a idiotic one that doesn't end in tragedy. So just be smart and being a criminal isn't so bad.

'Anyone that supports prohibition supports crime and drug dealers. Such were the three assholes that died in the crash'

Are you daft? Yes I do support drug dealers, I'll be perfectly honest. From you're innocent marijuana man to you're 'dasterdly' black-tar heroin pushers. Why do I support them? Mainly because they are finding a way to make money in a society that claims flexibility in social stratification and yet shows very few results. These are people trying to make their way in the world with either the only ways possible, or just the best. Education is lacking today, and that has many places to lay fault too, but let's avoid that five hour essey for now. The other reason I support them is because, like stated before, I am a marijuana user and last I checked the only place to purchase it in Ohio happens to be the person you have to call who comes under the guise of being a friend. A.K.A., a dealer. As far as supporting crime goes, I guess I do in a way, I do after support dealers who are essentially criminals in their own rights. But the men who died did not, hence their jobs as narcotic's officers. They try to maintain laws that they do_not_create, they merely need to inforce them. Now whether or not_they_agree with them is another matter all together.

Patriot you had a good argument at points, the commercial and industrial uses of marijuana in the form of hemp is a solid one. But even if that was legalized it does not mean that we could smoke it whenever we saw fit. Legalization is tough issue, many people on either side believe very strongly in their arguments. The fault, though, was the fact you had to mention some quip about prohibition linking to Nazi's, and user's, growers, and whom-not linked to the persecuted Jewish population. Try thinking slightly more carefully next time about your opening statements. Keep in mind I do agree with you later on, its just that was the most pointless intro I've had the complete and utter distain for reading.
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Mr. G Hiser, good points.
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Old 07-20-2002, 08:58 AM   #17 (permalink)
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good points all around mostly, but still asshole does not equal nazi. there are bad cops, but that does not equate to systemic political murder. Not by a long shot.
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A lot of good points made on everyones part. I must confess that I am hopelessly out of the loop on this one though. Where did this accident occur? Can someone provide me with a link to thr article? Thanks. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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[quote]Originally posted by Dissident:
<strong>"Corporate Amerikka"

Corporate America made that computer, operating system and internet service provider that allowed you to type that message...without it, you would have NOTHING...nothing pisses me off more than damn hypocrites</strong><hr></blockquote>
You're correct. It's CORPORATE AMERICA is the ones responsible for the operating system and isp that we use. Most of the ones who designed it are bud smokers just like the rest of it. It is not the government who is responsible for it, at least not for the availability of the Internet to the public. Therefore it is ok to talk shit about the government although it's still not cool to talk shit about dead people. If I died trying to leagilize weed, I wouldn't want all those against it saying bad shit about me.
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Old 07-20-2002, 12:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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If you take away the badges, disregard what the "innocent victims" of this tragedy were doing when they died, and think of them on a strictly personal and human level (as brothers or sisters or husbands or wives or fathers or mothers, etc.) the possibility remains that they were still assholes.

An innocent asshole is no different from a guilty asshole in my book.

I see a difference betwen heroic actions and calling people heroes because of their chosen professions. Not all Law Enforcement Officers, Firefighters, Soldiers, etc. are heroes simply by definition. Thee are heroic accountants, fast food workers, and drill press operators. When a cop puts on a fucking badge and dies in the line of duty, that does not a hero make. There is nothing heroic about flying around in a helicopter spotting pot grows from the air. There is nothing heroic about dying in an accident.

Before you defend these people who died as anything other than human beings who perished in an accident, think about the motivation which placed them in the position to even be involved in such an event. Three people dying in a car accident on the way to the grocery store to buy food is a tragedy. Three firefighters perishing when a burning roof collapses while they are trying to save neighboring houses from catching fire is a tragedy, and their actions could be called heroic.

The death of these three pigs is not tragic in my opinion, nor were the actions which led to the accident heroic. So fuck them.
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