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Old 07-09-2003, 11:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bush defends use of Iraq intelligence

Misstatement on uranium draws fire from Democrats



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WASHINGTON, July 9 — President Bush on Wednesday defended his use of prewar intelligence on Iraq, saying he is “absolutely confident” in his actions despite the discovery that one claim he made about Saddam Hussein’s weapons pursuits was based on false information.


‘George Bush’s credibility is increasingly in doubt.’
— SEN. BOB GRAHAM (D-FLA.)

DEMOCRATS HAVE argued that the White House’s acknowledgment that Bush misspoke earlier this year when he said Saddam tried to buy uranium in Africa justifies a broad review of how the administration used prewar intelligence on Iraq.
Bush, at a news conference here with South African President Thabo Mbeki during a five-nation African tour, took on his critics.
“There’s no doubt in my mind that when it’s all said and done the facts will show the world the truth,” he said. “There’s going to be, you know, a lot of attempts to try to rewrite history, and I can understand that. But I’m absolutely confident in the decision I made.”
Bush did not directly address the misstatement itself, made during his State of the Union address. Instead, he defended his decision to go to war based on a larger body of information.
“There is no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein was a threat to the world peace,” the president said. “And there’s no doubt in my mind that the United States ... did the right thing in removing him from power.”

CALL FOR INVESTIGATION
Back home, the uranium claim was raising concerns among Democrats, who said more was needed despite several investigations now under way in Congress.
“This is a very important admission,” Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota said Tuesday. “It’s a recognition that we were provided faulty information. And I think it’s all the more reason why a full investigation of all of the facts surrounding this situation be undertaken.”
Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, the ranking Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, said: “The reported White House statements only reinforce the importance of an inquiry into why the information about the bogus uranium sales didn’t reach the policy-makers during 2002 and why, as late as the president’s State of the Union address in January 2003, our policy-makers were still using information which the intelligence community knew was almost certainly false.”


The Bush administration used purported Iraqi weapons of mass destruction as a major justification for the war, and the failure to find such weapons so far has generated intense criticism from some Democrats.
White House spokesman Ari Fleischer set off a furor Monday when, under questioning by reporters, he acknowledged that Bush was incorrect in his State of the Union speech when he said “the British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”
Other White House officials elaborated on Fleischer’s remarks Tuesday, saying the United States had additional evidence of Iraq’s nuclear intentions.
Michael Anton, a spokesman for the National Security Council, said that when Bush made the speech, there was other intelligence indicating Iraq had tried to acquire uranium from several countries in Africa. This other information, however, was not detailed or specific enough to prove such a contention, he said.

FORGED COMMUNICATION
The claim rested significantly on a letter or letters between officials in Iraq and Niger that were obtained by European intelligence agencies. The communications are now accepted as forged.
Anton acknowledged such on Tuesday, but also said the documents were not the sole basis for the Iraq-Africa statement in Bush’s speech.
“Because of this lack of specificity, this reporting alone did not rise to the level of inclusion in a presidential speech,” Anton said. “That said, the issue of Iraq’s attempts to acquire uranium from abroad was not an element underpinning the judgment reached by most intelligence agencies that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.”
On Sunday, Joseph Wilson, an envoy sent to Africa to investigate allegations about Iraq’s nuclear weapons program, said the Bush administration manipulated his findings, possibly to strengthen the rationale for war.
Wilson insisted in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that his doubts about the purported Iraq-Niger connection reached the highest levels of government, including Vice President Dick Cheney’s office. In fact, he said, Cheney’s office inquired about the purported Niger-Iraq link.



Rep. Henry Waxman of California, the top Democrat on the House Government Reform Committee, wrote to Bush on Tuesday outlining a letter he received from the International Atomic Energy Agency regarding the forged Niger documents.
The letter “raises new questions about why the administration withheld the evidence from the IAEA for over six crucial weeks in December and January and - even then - failed to share the conclusions of U.S. intelligence officials that the evidence was bogus.”
Several investigations are under way in Congress, but Democrats said much more was needed.
Rep. Janice Schakowsky of Illinois called for an independent, non-congressional inquiry.
“Did the Bush administration knowingly deceive us and manufacture intelligence in order to build public support for the invasion of Iraq?” she asked. “Did Iraq really pose an imminent threat to our nation?”
Democrats seeking their party’s presidential nomination, including Sens. Bob Graham of Florida and John Kerry of Massachusetts and Reps. Richard Gephardt of Missouri and Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, called for further investigation.
“George Bush’s credibility is increasingly in doubt,” Graham said.
Said Kerry: “The Bush administration doesn’t get honesty points for belatedly admitting what had been apparent to the world for some time - that emphatic statements made on Iraq were inaccurate.”
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Old 07-09-2003, 11:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The whole country,not just those loony libs knew he had credibility problems way before Iraq,just look at what good ole' jeb and him did in Florida. His track record in Texas also screams foul.

"President Bush on Wednesday defended his use of prewar intelligence on Iraq, saying he is “absolutely confident” in his actions despite the discovery that one claim he made about Saddam Hussein’s weapons pursuits was based on false information."

I had the unfortunate misfortune of catching that "speech". Whenever the cowboy is on I usually turn it,but I wanted to see how he was going to refute the question.

"I am,......long classic bush pause......absolutle y confident.........pa use......that we will find the weapons and bring the truth to the world"

Can he ever put together a decent speech? Self-written or not,college freshmen blow em' out the water.

He ranks 42 of 43 presidents in terms of speaking ability,he edged out ford.
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Old 07-09-2003, 01:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What do you think our chances of making a citizens arrest would be ?

And I'm not trying to be facetious either.
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Slim to none,the fact that people are actually questioning whether a politician,president or administration would mislead the masses for political reasons is telling within itself.

It's really mindboggling,people actually believe that man can do no wrong. Did you see the State of the Union address? It's standard policy to clap,but that man got a standing ovation after every sentence? The man wasn't saying shit! It's laugable at how naive some americans get when war enters the main thought process. Everything is in the name of patrioitism,and it's BS.

A citizen's arrest would be downgraded and attacked by the Ann Coulter's of the country to nothing but more liberal anti-americanism. By the way,according to ann coulter,all liberals are guilty of treason.
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Bush Country

A man walked into a county western bar and ordered a beer just as President Bush appeared on the television.

After a few sips, he looked up at the television and mumbled, "Now, there's the biggest horse's ass I've ever seen in my entire life."

A customer at the end of the bar quickly stood up, walked over to him, and decked him.

A few minutes later, as the man was finishing his beer, Laura Bush appeared on the television. "She's a big fat horse's ass too," said the man.

This time, a customer at the other end of the bar quickly stood up, walked over to him, and knocked him off his stool.

"Damn!" the man said, climbing back up to the bar. "This must be Bush country!"

"Nope," the bartender replied. "It's Horse country!"

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Bushi, like his fatherland. All ready accomplished their goals for personal gain. With doubtful investigation or one of any real value, they once again ripped us off, and will go on to finance further generations. Look for jebyas kid next. $300 bil in bankster loans interest a year going out. Trillion dollar pot business not being taxed. 7 - 10 billion a year spent busting pot users. I don't know about y'all, but I've never had much trouble finding it for a price and slight agrivation. But the sick and naive are the ones having trouble, then raising more statistics after they get hurt or busted. Forced volunteer "treatment", urine testing plus cost, pay by check or credit card. Digging up old myths that todays pot is better, they obviously forgot about the Nam and Thai stick pot, they have now murdered 2000 over, to win favor with Unkle W.

$$$Thousands taken from what ain't there in the first place. Growing medicine or booze and Pharmaid alternatives, ain't the Chrishun thing to do. Righteously we all should have access to it. The prices are crazy, but for bonified reasons, as long as the risk is so heavy. Meaning naive will get discount schwag on the street and that ain't the same thing. Hemp is not Ganja sticky buds even if czar propaganda and bogus Nixonian scheduling lies say they are. And the media says nothing.

ONDCP-OiNkDeCePtion Flimflamers using hemp, testing for medicinal, to provide enough lies to keep this evil alive, year after year rehashing old discredited Naha's Turner theories. Taking Russian short fiber Rugala in research on hemp yield. Lies about hempseed ruining urine test. Lies hiding medicinal findings. Lies to win cases regardless of innocence. Lies to keep paychecks for ends justifying means good intentions. Lies keeping heads in the sand.

It doesn't really seem to matter if W even runs next election. They came, they pillaged and I'd say the longer they're in the light the more risk for an investigation. No ones brought up the Contras or Gulf War Syndromes or other CIA Rummy Cheney Liddy Delay Bakker and mentor G dadya Bushies other coincidences... Danny boy Quayles daddy was old Georges boss at Eli Lilly. Cliarence was the lawyer for Monsanto, now ruling on patents for their mutated seeds. Donnies push for Asspartame scam. Neil Bush and Charles Keating, Dyncorps and the teamsters backing Sikorsky selling CAMP Air Monkeys chopters. And poisoning Colombian kids and their food crops. Bush Prison food service importing prisoners to over crowded shared cells. Prison sodomy as deterrents from hard time to juvi. Shared needles spreading diseases, forced on towns without the guts to allow exchanges. Same as towns following profiteers maintaining Ganjawar dysfunctions.

The difference betweeen Bushit I and Klintoon, is Klintoon removed the homeless stories, from the front pages and caged more people for possessing pot than Nixon, Reagan and Bush. Taking a lot off of welfare into cog jobs at Micky D's in exchange for their exploiting the planet. Hideously raising and grazing it here. Exporting the final product while the waste stays polluting and more resources gone. The 12 pounds of grain for each pound of meat is sprayed with chemicals and all kinds of things that seep into the aquifer, runoff into the lakes and streams that hempseed could do if it wasn't fascistly removed.. Then chems into the bodies of the same sick and dying and kids they're supposedly protecting, perpetuating this damn Ganjawar. More abortions from spraying poisons than any laws permitting the right of women to their own bodies. I simply demand the same thing for my body to use Ganja.

Abolishing Ganja laws stops feeding their war chests, immediately.
It instantly frees up cost to and of the sick and dying, with homegrown.

It curtails immigration by stopping the extortion of the Mexicans, forgiving loan payments for drug war participation, or a show of one. Giving both of our countries what Canada and 32 others are growing. Hemp. Jobs processing, integrating it back into society as the crude oil starts dwindling to remote sanctuaries and Colombian Native burial grounds. Or more wars in the sand. Or reduce the chemicals sprayed on cotton crops with a stronger softer natural hemp fiber.

Replacing the slaughter of old growth forest for particle board and paper with refuse of hemp grown first as a weed and harmful insect repellent instead of poisons. The seed then used for industrial lubricant or plastic. Or replace concrete and strip mined ore for cars with a fiber steal thats more dent resistant. Specialized inspected organic hempseed as the most nutritionally complete food known. Presently the "marijuana" eradications are comprised of 99% wild hemp ditchweed bird habitat. Rising statistics for drug czars to perpetuate this very wasteful, harmful Ganjawar.

Reefer madness was orchestrated. The moral implications, that its fabrication and implementation through Yellow Journalism in the 30's actually financed Hitlers war machine. That its Americans who are being harmed and pillaged and raped no differently than what the true heathen barbarians did 500 years ago. That is not a government looking out for the best interest of its people. Period.

Those going along with any part of the reefer madness, including shunning its facts, stigmatizing users or continuing the destruction of the Constitution and the Families and the Frail, those are who jails are for..

The people really have to get a grip!

What are you afraid of? There are no hordes of potheads out to get anyone. Just leave us be. Don't kill us or cage us or assume anything from myths. Stop forfeiting our homes and stop video taping our kids. Its not your duty to make my neighbors snitches. Its not patriotic to roust sick seniors from their beds. To ruin lives for political soundbites. To program the media or to de-fund states highways if they don't follow drug czars conflicts of interest. This ain't about me smoking pot. Its about making money keeping me from it.
Time to wake up and smell the Ganja.
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