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Old 07-10-2003, 11:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The African Bush
By June Thomas
Posted Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 5:41 PM PT


George W. Bush's trip to Africa—with stops in Botswana, Nigeria, Senegal, South Africa, and Uganda—received a lukewarm welcome from the African press. South Africa's Sunday Times said the whirlwind tour is "part of an elaborate plan to give [Bush's] presidency a human face. Being seen to be helping 'poor, starving Africans,' and expressing support for the New Partnership for Africa's Development will work with African-American voters who are key to Bush's re-election campaign." On a less high-minded note, an op-ed in the Nation of Kenya looked forward to hearing Bush "pronounce African tongue-twister names like Olusegun Obasanjo and Abdoulaye Wade."


South Africa's Mail and Guardian likened Bush to a prostitute: "Like the world's oldest profession, the Republican administration of United States President George W Bush has interests, rather than principles." The editorial warned, "It would be a mistake to take Bush's 'compassionate agenda' seriously. His whistle-stop tour of five African countries … must be seen for what it is—hard-eyed self-service posing as a mercy mission." Bush's main concerns, the paper said, are "domestic security, the advancement of corporate America and the securing of strategic assets, mainly oil." The paper concluded, "Africa can exert some beneficial influence in bringing the world's most destructive and irresponsible rogue state back into line."

The Cape Argus said it was in the United States' interest to help Africa: "The 11 conflicts currently tearing the continent apart must … make Bush realise that any one of those theatres of war has the potential to hide and nurture those who wish to harm the US. … It is important that when Bush leaves, he leaves behind hope and economic prospects that will lift Africans out of poverty." The Cape Times, meanwhile, counseled Bush's opponents to exercise "restraint and sobriety" in the interests of realpolitik. "It is foolish to castigate and vilify the US yet, in the same breath, demand that the US increase its aid to Africa."

The Financial Times said Bush goofed by leaving Kenya off his itinerary. The East African nation has suffered significant losses as a result of two al-Qaida bombings—of the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi in 1998 and an Israeli-owned hotel in Mombassa last November. "In both cases, the victims were mostly Kenyans. Subsequent warnings against travel to Kenya by the US, Britain and others … have caused disproportionate damage to its economy. If anyone wants to persuade Africans that the world does not treat them unfairly, this is not the way to do it."

An op-ed in Kenya's East African concluded that Bush is not serious about Africa because "he won't eat matooke." Rather than traveling with his own chefs, the president should sample local food, because for "most Africans nothing speaks more eloquently of your affection for them … than having a meal in their homes."
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I think most black Americans would be happy to just not get pulled over every time they leave their driveways.

As for Africa, it's the cradle of life on earth. The land is fertile and lush. If people are starving, its more likely due to who's got the guns, not the plows. Less government is probably the answer, be it ours or theirs.



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Old 07-10-2003, 01:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Somebody ask me why we were sending troops into Liberia.


So.................

Liberia was first invaded by American Christians back long time ago.(1800's).Who set up a 'colony'.
Taking previous British successes as a go ahead.

A Bit of Liberian Timeline............ ...

After the struggle for liberty in the American Revolution, free and enslaved African Americans faced continued hardship and inequality. A number of white Americans, for a variety of reasons, joined them in their efforts to resolve this complex problem. One possible solution (advocated at a time when the assimilation of free blacks into American society seemed out of the question) was the complete separation of white and black Americans. Some voices called for the return of African Americans to the land of their forebears.

1815-1817 Black Colonization
1815- African-American Quaker and maritime entrepreneur Paul Cuffee (or Cuffe) financed and captained a successful voyage to Sierra Leone where he helped a small group of African-American immigrants establish themselves. Cuffee believed that African Americans could more easily "rise to be a people" in Africa than in America with its system of slavery and its legislated limits on black freedom. Cuffee also envisioned a black trade network organized by Westernized blacks who would return to Africa to develop its resources while educating its people in the skills they had gained during captivity. Cuffee died in 1817 without fully realizing his dream.
1817- The partial success of Paul Cuffee's African venture encouraged white proponents of colonization to form an organization to repatriate those free African Americans who would volunteer to settle in Africa. Prominent Americans such as Henry Clay, John Randolph of Roanoke, and Justice Bushrod Washington were members of the American Colonization Society (ACS) during its early years. Many free African-Americans, however, including those who had supported Paul Cuffee's efforts, were wary of this new organization. They were concerned that it was dominated by Southerners and slave holders and that it excluded blacks from membership. Most free African-Americans wanted to stay in the land they had helped to build. They planned to continue the struggle for equality and justice in the new nation. See "African-American Mosaic: Colonization".

1820-1847 From Colony to Republic
1820- The American Colonization Society sent its first group of immigrants to Sherbro Island in Sierra Leone. The island's swampy, unhealthy conditions resulted in a high death rate among the settlers as well as the society's representatives. The British governor allowed the immigrants to relocate to a safer area temporarily while the ACS worked to save its colonization project from complete disaster. See African-American Mosaic: Personal Stories and ACS New Directions. See "African-American Mosaic: Personal Stories and ACS New Directions".

1821-The American Colonization Society (ACS) dispatched a representative, Dr. Eli Ayres, to purchase land farther north up the coast from Sierra Leone. With the aid of a U.S. naval officer, Lieutenant Robert F. Stockton, Ayres cruised the coastal waters west of Grand Bassa seeking out appropriate lands for the colony. Stockton took charge of the negotiations with leaders of the Dey and Bassa peoples who lived in the area of Cape Mesurado. At first, the local leaders were reluctant to surrender their peoples' land to the strangers, but were forcefully persuaded -- some accounts say at gun-point -- to part with a "36 mile long and 3 mile wide" strip of coastal land for trade goods, supplies, weapons, and rum worth approximately $300. See "The fourth annual report of the American Society for Colonizing the Free People of Color of the United States".


1822 - April 25 - The survivors of Sherbro Island arrived at Cape Mesurado and began to build their settlement. With the wavering consent of the new immigrants, the American Colonization Society governed the colony through its representative. In time, however, some colonists objected strenuously to the authoritarian policies instituted by Jehudi Ashmun, a Methodist missionary who replaced Ayres as the ACS governing representative. Such disagreements created tensions within the struggling settlement.

1824 - Believing that the colonial agent had allocated town lots and rationed provisions unfairly, a few of the settlers armed themselves and forced the society's representative to flee the colony. The disagreements were resolved temporarily when an ACS representative came to investigate the colony's problems and persuaded Ashmun to return. Steps were initiated to spell out a system of local administration and to codify the laws. This resulted, a year later, in the Constitution, Government, and Digest of the Laws of Liberia. In this document, sovereign power continued to rest with the ACS's agent but the colony was to operate under common law. Slavery and participation in the slave trade were forbidden. The settlement that had been called Christopolis was renamed Monrovia after the American president, James Monroe, and the colony as a whole was formally called Liberia.

Christopolis was renamed Monrovia after President James Monroe and the colony was formally called Liberia (the free land). (Nelson) See the Map of Liberia with Monrovia.

Town of Monrovia
1827 - Slave states in North America, increasingly interested in getting rid of their free African-American populations, encouraged the formation of colonization societies. These groups organized themselves independently of the ACS and founded their own colonies in Liberia for transplanting free African-Americans. Some of the "volunteers" were emancipated only if they agreed to emigrate. The Maryland State Colonization Society established its colony in Cape Palmas, Liberia. Virginia and Mississippi also established Liberian colonies for former slaves and free blacks.

See "The tenth annual report (African-American Perspectives) of the American Society for Colonizing the Free People of Colour of the United States: with an appendix." and named after the state. Virginia and Mississippi also founded colonies for former slaves in Liberia. (Liebenow, 17; Nelson, 15).

1838- The colonies established by the Virginia Colonization Society, the Quaker Young Men's Colonization Society of Pennsylvania, and the American Colonization Society merged as the Commonwealth of Liberia and claimed control over all settlements between Cestos River and Cape Mount. The Commonwealth adopted a new constitution and a newly-appointed governor in 1839. See ,African-American Mosaic: Liberia.

For more history...........

<a href="http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/libhtml/liberia.html" target="_blank">http ://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/libhtml/liberia.html</a>
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-The pampered cowboy's trip is laugable,many in the black community,the nation,and the international communities see through his hollow agendas. It's funny,through all vacations at his heralded west texas ranch,Bush couldn't make time to visit those turned-back from voting black communities in Florida,or any other black neighborhood in the country for that matter. Yet we are to believe he has compassion for countries in Africa? It's like he thinks the internatinal community is stupid,he knows the many naive americans will continue to sheep a long whistling yankee doodle doo,but many folks aren't lauging or happy,he has no credibility whatsoever.


"South Africa's Mail and Guardian likened Bush to a prostitute: "Like the world's oldest profession, the Republican administration of United States President George W Bush has interests, rather than principles." The editorial warned, "It would be a mistake to take Bush's 'compassionate agenda' seriously. His whistle-stop tour of five African countries … must be seen for what it is—hard-eyed self-service posing as a mercy mission." Bush's main concerns, the paper said, are "domestic security, the advancement of corporate America and the securing of strategic assets, mainly oil." The paper concluded, "Africa can exert some beneficial influence in bringing the world's most destructive and irresponsible rogue state back into line."

-Couldn't have said it better myself. One thing to remember about this current regime. The bush administration has agenda within agendas in everything they do. These guys aren't green anymore,I'll give them one thing,they have experience. Rumsfeld and his cohorts tested the waters with the first Bush,and now have that,"it's time to do things our way this time",mentality. Anybody with the slightest knowledge of this administration knows any foriegn type of aid to Africa has been internationally forced. I guarantee you that if Bush could get away with stuff without International heat he would be quick to do anything.

"The Cape Argus said it was in the United States' interest to help Africa: "The 11 conflicts currently tearing the continent apart must … make Bush realise that any one of those theatres of war has the potential to hide and nurture those who wish to harm the US. … It is important that when Bush leaves, he leaves behind hope and economic prospects that will lift Africans out of poverty." The Cape Times, meanwhile, counseled Bush's opponents to exercise "restraint and sobriety" in the interests of realpolitik. "It is foolish to castigate and vilify the US yet, in the same breath, demand that the US increase its aid to Africa."

-It's funny,because I was viewing everyone's favorite news channel(fox),and they kept on elaborating on the african people cheering bush in the streets. They don't care about bush,any poor place will hit the streets in joy when they hear U.S troops are arriving. They are cheering for U.S money,not the monkey.


The Financial Times said Bush goofed by leaving Kenya off his itinerary. The East African nation has suffered significant losses as a result of two al-Qaida bombings—of the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi in 1998 and an Israeli-owned hotel in Mombassa last November. "In both cases, the victims were mostly Kenyans. Subsequent warnings against travel to Kenya by the US, Britain and others … have caused disproportionate damage to its economy. If anyone wants to persuade Africans that the world does not treat them unfairly, this is not the way to do it."

-One of the main culprits for Africa's mistreatment is the american media. What many people don't realize is that MUCH of africa is indeed civilized and modern. Many have democratic and working governments,governme nts that are flourishing and improving. Of course we never see this on tv,because thats not what they want us to see. Being an African American myself,I'd be suprised if Bush hit the streets in Kenya,or Congo,but his agendas wear too thin. And Powell says this isn't about politics,get outta here Colin.

Somethings very wrong when Nelson Mandela will refuse to have a meeting with you. Thanks Bush
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Glad you read the post. I'm trying to lay down 'some' of the hows and whys of what could be our next "military action" ,before it happens.

Americans as a whole are a gullable lot ,are they not.


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Rev most of Africa's farmland is destroyed by irresponsible farming, because the soil is uncovered by trees the rain washes away the nutrients thus ruining the farmland. The only solution to this is an expensive and less productive method of farming to which the name has escaped me. But when your trying not to get shot or starve then the environment is the least of your worries.
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illfaded ,

Вы действительно не имеете ключа, так что я не буду бить вашу голову в с летучей мышью шара только все же. Обнадеживающе Вы остановите ваши ребяческие пути скоро, прежде, чем кто - то действительно делает.


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[quote]Originally posted by Antediluvian:
<strong>illfaded ,

Вы действительно не имеете ключа, так что я не буду бить вашу голову в с летучей мышью шара только все же. Обнадеживающе Вы остановите ваши ребяческие пути скоро, прежде, чем кто - то действительно делает.


la roach`</strong><hr></blockquote>

"You do not actually have a key, so that 4 not I will beat your head v with the bat of sphere only nevertheless. To obnadezhivayushche you will stop your childish ways soon, before who - that actually does."

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[quote]-One of the main culprits for Africa's mistreatment is the american media. What many people don't realize is that MUCH of africa is indeed civilized and modern. Many have democratic and working governments,governme nts that are flourishing and improving. Of course we never see this on tv,because thats not what they want us to see. Being an African American myself,I'd be suprised if Bush hit the streets in Kenya,or Congo,but his agendas wear too thin. And Powell says this isn't about politics,get outta here Colin.

Somethings very wrong when Nelson Mandela will refuse to have a meeting with you. Thanks Bush
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(very poignant, factual, and sadly true...)

Bush in the Bush...
He has agendas and will exploit Africans next in his Terrorism War against the world. I wonder how the black communities feel about this? I have seen very damning reports about the lunatix intentions there.
Who decided that America had the right to fix broken governments?
Does everyone see him as flimsy and used car-like salesman-redneck?
America is in this for the long haul, she will get what she wants...in the name of Freedom , Justice and democracy...but it ain't doing very much for America;s PR...I mean the rest of the world is getting pretty fed up with the attitude that Bush Admin has: Global Pigs.
( I hate Bush...not USA. I hate the government, not the people stuck under a dictator regime_I feel sorry for them, be it in Seattle or N. Iraq.
Today I saw 148,000 US soldiers are there now.
11,000 Brits. We have Dutch bat there_too_Holland kisses bushy asses...too. America holds all the monetary strangleholds on other lands ( like Holland.)
enough ranting...Bush Looks out of (place in) Africa, devious and like the LIAR he is.
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