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Old 07-10-2003, 09:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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after extensive blunt rolling I'm having a little trouble deciding with I like rolling with better. Dutchmaster? or Phillie blunt? I think I'm gonna go with Phillies just because they burn slower and are easier and faster to roll. what do you think?
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Old 07-10-2003, 11:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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yeah Phillie's rule over all down here in TN.
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from phila thats all they smoke here, phillys are alot easier to roll but dont taste as good as a dutch. i use dutches when i roll nuggets, it seems to burn smoother and hit better, but for shwagg deff philly
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[quote]Originally posted by nigga boy roy:
<strong>I smoke with class i dont let my self sink to smoking like a nigger.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have to admit, when I first started reading your replies I thought you were a dick. But now I can't help myself from laughing everytime I read one of your posts. You're quite a character.
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blunts are good for regs, but if you got good weed why would you want to ruin the taste by putting it in a cigar?
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Old 07-11-2003, 02:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 07-11-2003, 03:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by comfortablyhigh:
<strong>I think I'm gonna go with Phillies just because they burn slower and are easier and faster to roll. what do you think?</strong><hr></blockquote>


Umm... I'd say dutches burn a lot slower than phillies on any given day. Tis why the dutch gets my vote.
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Old 07-11-2003, 06:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by Crying Wolf:
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I have to admit, when I first started reading your replies I thought you were a dick. But now I can't help myself from laughing everytime I read one of your posts. You're quite a character.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh god...what stupid people we have in this world.

Here in Indy they have every type of blunt. The best blunt for starters IMO is a regular Phillies Blunt,some think it's to much cigar paper but it's just right. Swishers are hit or miss most of the time,you can't find a fresh ass swisher and that sucks,the papers are thin and flimsy sometimes. Once you master a phillies you can go on to all the others,everybody down here rolls cigarillos,they have everything type of flavor here in cigarillo form,Strawberry,frui t punch,sour apple,berry,vanilla. The slowest buring blunt IMO is a Garcia Vega.

ALot of people like to roll those royal blunt wraps,they save time because you don't have to dump any tobacky wacky out but I prefer to keep it real with a good ole' blunt.
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Old 07-11-2003, 06:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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correct philly:for fluffy or shwaggy weed

dutch: for tight packed nuggets of dro

vanilla ditches taste better anyway,unless u have a strawberry philly
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phillies burn way longer than dutches
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ya that why u make sure the paper is moist when u light it up,fuck head
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Hah,yaya is right,but really there is no "slowest burning cigar",if your a true blunt roller all your blunts burn slow as fuck.Ya dig
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[quote]Originally posted by ALF_IS_THE_MAN:
<strong>phillies burn way longer than dutches</strong><hr></blockquote>

ALF phillies do not burn slower then dutches.Just from my experience
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Why would ya wanna put Nugs in a blunt? Dont you guys wanna taste the herb? Dutches for the regs and mids.
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Old 07-12-2003, 07:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by InvrInhaled:
<strong>Why would ya wanna put Nugs in a blunt? Dont you guys wanna taste the herb? Dutches for the regs and mids.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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i only smoke bomb ass nugs and i fucking love blunts. phillies are good, honey is my fav, then chocolate. i've gotten a really fresh pack of swisher's that made me like them forever. but i've also gotten a pack that smells like shit, i ddint' even bother testing them.

i fucking HATE dutchmasters. they suck.

since i just started using blunts on 4/20 of this year, i still have to try the others types (garcia y vegas, optimo, etc.).

really good weed out of a blunt just tastes really good . and that's coming from someone who is violently allergic to tobacco. the amount of nicotine in the leaf is so negligible.

last thing- blunt wraps suck! i'd try some other brands, incase they were good, but blunt wraps suck so much. they taste shitty, roll shitty, are too big, too thick, and are just bad. stay away from them.
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[quote]Originally posted by RareToker:
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You just dont know how to roll them.

Dutches, Garcia Vegas, and Optimos are great because the WAY it is rolled is sooo important to the quality of the smoke. The first outer layer of tobacco leaf must be removed.... then u remove the "cancer strip" at the mouthpiece of the cigar... then the naked cigar is squeezed just right so that it splits right at the seam... then u continue to crack it open, empty out the garbage, and remove the overlapping piece of paper where you just cracked. Fill it up, roll it up very carefully making sure there is an equal amount ditro'd or a consistent cone shape (depending on preference). The most important part that is also the most fun is rewrapping the blunt with the outter leaf that you removed. When all that is done properly, you can get a 1 gram blunt to burn for a good 20-30 minutes.

-"This is a commom misconception about Ducthe's and Vegas. If your an experienced roller,if you split a vega just right,you can roll it the regular way without having to do that rewrap stuff. You just have to get the paper moist enough so that they stick with each other,and that the outerleaf(the green leaf)doesn't come apart. I dunnu,I guess it depends what situation your in,I've had to roll countless vegas in moving cars just rolling around the hood. I just roll a vega the regular way. I agree though,Vegas or Optimos aren't the smoothest of blunts,but probably the all around best because if rolled right,will burn for a LONG time.

Phillies are terrible because they are harsh, short, and nasty. The only thing you can do w/ a philly is break it and re-roll it... there is no outter layer of 'baccy to remove and the one that is there is glued down. fuck that.

-"You don't like a good ole' Strawberry Phillie? They are far from harsh and smell and taste good. They are no shorter than any other blunt except a dutch or elangante or something. And if rolled right will burn just as slow as any other blunt. My problem with them sometimes is that most newbies smoke phillies,which mean they pull hard as fuck,which will make it burn faster. However,with a good rolled Vega you can pull as hard as you want and it will stall "


Note: Green leaves are moist and clog up w/ dank... only use it w/ regs.

-"I disagree here,I smoke regs with Swishers and Phillies,and smoke Dank or KB with green leaves beacuase a green leaf with dank is guaranteed to burn atleast 20 minutes if not more. Just break it up fine and it won't clog up.good post"

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Garcia vegas are better then dutches or phillies because they burn so much slower.
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before i respond to raretoker's post, i want to first tell raretoker that i dont mean disrespect, i just need to point out a few fallacies in your response.

[quote]Originally posted by RareToker:
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You just dont know how to roll them.

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k ur first big wrong comment. i roll sick sick sick blunts. if i do say so myself. every group of blunt smoker's i've had the pleasure to share my craft with has given me huge compliments. plus i love smoking them. so actually, i do know how to roll them, quite well.

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Phillies are terrible because they are harsh, short, and nasty. The only thing you can do w/ a philly is break it and re-roll it... there is no outter layer of 'baccy to remove and the one that is there is glued down. fuck that.
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phillies do have an outer leaf. i can peel it off without even wetting the gar. i actually like this outer leaf better than others (esp. dutchmasters, their outer leaf is why i dont like them) because it's fun and elastic. some sort of synthetically processed tobaccy substitue or something haha. either way it's a moot point because there's a point that i'm sure u'll reach someday where u roll such nice blunts with the inner leaf that it's compltely unessisary to use the outer leaves. i just chuck em now.

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Note: Green leaves are moist and clog up w/ dank... only use it w/ regs.</strong><hr></blockquote>

how do u know this? if this is so, then how would u explain all the blunts of dank that i've smoked? they all worked REALLY well. that's why i go back to them .

again, no disrespect, but i have to defend my blunt rolling honor.
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maby im lazy but i just take colts (cigarillos in diff. flavours) rip the tip off, push the shit outta the end and cram it with dank and squish one of the ends flat, do that with a pack and u got 8 personal sized blunts
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