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Old 07-24-2002, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Everything's so messed up...want some help...

sigh...this is a real downer, just to let ya' know...

Let me begin with the fact that yes, it's my own fault for getting caught, but this punishment is really severe, even for my former-marine parents...
I went to a freinds house saturday night, when I was getting a ride home from my mom, she started off with "do you know what the meaning of consequences is?" I knew at this moment, running away and being homeless would be better than my fate...turns out, the bitch used child security locks on the car doors,so I could get in, but not out...he then proceded to drive me to the police station and told them she wanted me tried and, they should be as hard as needed on me..she turned into them a grand total of: several pipes and assorted paraphenealia (misdemeanor), my ten smallish plants, when weighed, totaled to just over a half an ounce(felony) and several used BAGGIES which got me my second felony of possesion with intent to distribute...sigh...

I was jailed for 3 days, had 100 hours of community service( which consist mostly of sitting in a jail cell, how productive to the community..)and I am now on probation, for a legnth of time determined by my "progress" in a behavioural modification camp I am going to next week....I'm now prescribed to a massive dose of medications, which they make sure I take...everythings just so bad...
What I need help with is winning them over...my dad actually had sympathy on me and suggested that if I stayed in the house with it, that that might be okay, but my mother is such a simple minded fool...she can't think on any higher a level than a three year old..if someone tells me it's wrong, then it is, no questions asked....thats the entire basis of her argument..illegality ...now, I only have one year left before I can leave on my own, but until then they WILL call the cops on me if I run away, so thats out...do you guys have any ideas on how I can win my mom over and make her okay with this whole thing? by the way-pills suck,no erections for me in the future..sigh...like I said, what a downer...
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Old 07-24-2002, 07:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Tell your parents you're going to change your last name to Menendez if they don't get off your dick.
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Old 07-24-2002, 08:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Id go to prison before im forced to eat mind imprisoning chemicals.

punch your dad or something , fuck.

when i used to live with my father, i never let him have me in check, i was the worse kid ever. I threw plates , bowls and shit at the wall, punched through glass windows, yelled everysingle profanity, and all kinds of shit before they got the message that im not a dog to be told what to do.
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Old 07-24-2002, 08:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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awesome-great advice...really...fi rst off Ille jack off in my dads eye when he yells at me for meds (oh yeah) then when he calls my po,tells 'im "he's causing a disturbance" or something along those lines, I get probation (not to mention urine tests) for god knows how much longer...yeah! then when I smash their stuff all to shit, run away, and they call the cops yet again, I get the joy of spending MORE time in our loveley little southern-baptist judicial system....fuck...I hope my little ordeal amuses you no end...god, fuck, I might as well "just deal with it" because it's obvious my family, who I THOUGHT cared about how I felt and so forth would be there and now it turns out they're emptyst like eveybody else, and I don't know why the fuck I though anyone who could'nt gain anything from helping someone out with some kinds words would....but you don't care...great for you...thats all you need sometimes man...someone to tell you everythings gonna be alright...shit...
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Old 07-24-2002, 08:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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yup. gets ya' down sometimes though....
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Old 07-24-2002, 10:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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how old r u???
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Old 07-24-2002, 11:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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U R Fucked. thats all there is to it.
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Old 07-25-2002, 07:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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17, and I am fucked....might as well just fuck the probation and show them what kind of "behavioral modifications" happen when you sell your kid out to the pigs...one more year..whats the worst that could happen? I already have 2 felonies...shit...a couple months in jail could'nt be that bad...
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Old 07-25-2002, 01:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i have a few questions. first off, had your parents ever punished you by themselves, and if so, for what? what i'm thinking is that at least your mom felt like she couldn't control you anymore and the only way she knew to fix the situation was to have someone with more power take control. secondly, why did you even have plants growing in your house in the first place? to me, you were almost asking to have the plants found.
well, the only advice i can give you is to stay clean until you turn 18, because the truth is that your parents still dictate what you can and can not do. once you turn 18 though, i guess you will want to move out. then is the time you can call your mom every day to tell her you're smoking and that the shit she put you through didn't help. also in the meantime, don't take any of those pills. they're already making you go through enough shit. the last thing they should be doing is altering your state of mind.
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Old 07-25-2002, 02:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The best action has already been stated: Don't eat their pills, bide your time until you're 18, and leave. Maybe one day they'll realize that family is all you really have in this world and that it doesn't help to burn so many bridges. Maybe one day they'll even be worthy of your forgiveness.. but from an outsider's perspective, if I were in your position, forgiveness would not be forthcoming.
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Old 07-25-2002, 02:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Bay area, and all who replied, first off, thanks, it's pathetic, but your words do mean something to me (yes, my life IS that emotionally devoid), and no, I have never been in trouble with the law, maintain at least a 3.0 average in school (not that that means anything) and basically consider myself a good kid. On the point of the plants- they were growing outside, several hundred yards away from my house, they found the paraphenelia first and then checked out where I was going off to every day to looks for more incriminating evidence...

girlshateme- I wish I had your balls, but at this point in the game,I can only see running away serving to get me further into the hole with the law than I already am...thanks for the advice though...

I guesse Il'le just play along with their little game for now...oh well..
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Old 07-25-2002, 04:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by icky-sticky:
<strong>I guesse Il'le just play along with their little game for now...oh well..</strong><hr></blockquote>

that's EXACTLY what you need to do! LIFE is nothing more than a game. even though you are losing right now you're bound to get ahead. love life and don't get too caught up in the game. good luck!
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Old 07-26-2002, 10:49 AM   #13 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by Dissident:
<strong>"i'm now prescribed to a massive dose of medications, which they make sure I take"

id spit it all in their collective faces before i swallowed that shit...they make sure you take it eh...short of holding me down and cramming it down my throat theres no way theyd 'make sure' of anything like that

as for the rest of the shit...well, deal with it</strong><hr></blockquote>

they are trying to turn you into a zombie, thats what shit like that makes you anyway. a numb emotionless sack of shitting breathing shit. alive but not really there.
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Old 07-26-2002, 12:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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my exact plan girlshateme, my exact plan, thanks everybody, I feel a lot better now..." hey mom, can you guesse what that sound is? I'm sure not boiling noodles!"
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Old 07-26-2002, 10:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I believe someone else already said it. Dude, you're fucked. I work with this system you're talking about, and I gotta tell you, you are stuck, and the only way I can see to get them off your back is to play their game. If you refuse pills, they'll give you liquid injection. As you said, if you run away or get caught again, it's jail for you. Hopefully they charged you as a juvenile, so the record will be expunged/sealed once you hit 18.

I wish you weren't so locked in. I went thru a similar fate as a teen myself. And believe me, I'm good. I tried it all! You can flex inside the cage when it's just your parents, but once they get cops and shrinks involved, you're fucked. The only thing you can do is do what they ask of you, with a smile, and all the while, save up so you can move out a.s.a.p.

Couple hints--if you take the meds, and you show a big change in behavior (do and say all the right things) you stand at least a chance of having them take you off the meds. But they won't even consider it till your behavior "conforms" (God, don't you just hate that word?!) You have to be improving, and calmly asking for them to consider med reduction/extinction. And try to think of it like you would with some school subject that has no practical applications in real life. It sucks, you shouldn't have to do it, but you have no choice right now. And the only way to get thru this time till you can be in control of your own life is to play the game, by the rules set, no matter how ridiculous you know it to be.

My Mom now knows about my pension for weed, and doesn't bother me about it. But to get here, I had to play her game. Her attitude only changed after I graduated with honors and got awards and job offers and stuff. I had to show her that my lifestyle isn't hurting my progress in the game. It will take you a lot of time, and doing stuff you don't agree with, but the only control you do still have is how you play the game. Play it smartly.
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Old 07-26-2002, 11:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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didn' you also mention in a previous post that your parent sold all of your stuff? Call the cops and report a theft by your parents...if you paid for it, it ain't they're shit, no matter how old you are. as for the force medication... that really sucks ass, but you don't have anything else to loose right? go ape-fucking wild, i'm sure you'll figure out something. go into your parents room and scream profanities at 2 in the morning. wake up the neighbors. show them what a real problem child is. its only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything. 'course, i'm just a big fan of power games, so to each their own.
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Old 07-29-2002, 09:10 AM   #17 (permalink)
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First off, let me say that what happened to you was fucked up, no doubt. I know it's hard to believe right now, but you're still breathing, so you're still in the game. Your parents sound like very misguided people who have no idea what they've done to you. Instaed of intelligent discussion, they approached the situation with fear and ignorance. Right now, you gotta make the best out of a shitty situation. Keep posting to let us know how you're doing. Keep your head up.

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Old 07-29-2002, 11:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
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damn dude, your situation sounds like a shit hole. if i were you i'd take those fuckin pills there trying to give you, crack em open and rail that shit. i wouldnt talk to my parents at all if they did that shit to me. i would make my room all fucking dark and just lay there all day. i wouldn't do shit all day.
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Old 07-29-2002, 12:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Get a JOB!

SAve up for about year. then one day don't go to work, just go to the airport.

Or just save up for a ticket and a week of hotel and romen. until you get a new job.

Some of the most successful people in the world had left the home early in life.
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Old 07-30-2002, 02:41 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah, give them hell. Thats what I've been doing for the past 15 years, the results, I get to do whatever the fuck I want. Can you manipulate your parents? I love that. Especially when you get good at it.

Ehh I guess not, I didnt relaize you were 17.
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