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Old 12-17-2001, 07:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question E yes or no?

i smoke a lot of dank, and every once in a while chewy and i wanna try E but i dont want to feel all depressed and sick the next morning, is it really worth taking yes or no?
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Old 12-17-2001, 09:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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if it's good E, then of course (in my opinion) if it's somewhat sketchy, probably not. other people know more about E than i do though, so don't base anything on my opinion.
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Old 12-18-2001, 01:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I personaly think e is great.. I mean its like the best feeling.. you feel soooooo good on the shit.. and the depression for me anyways wasnt bad at all.. and only a few times did i even get depressed.. i am tho worn out real bad the next day. my opinion is its definately worth trying once at least.. just have a drink and be with friends.
the depressed shit realy depends on the kind of person you are.. its all in your head. if you have a strong mind dont worry about it.
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Old 12-18-2001, 04:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Do you have friends who are experienced with E? Then absolutely, next time they do it, try it! I would recommend starting with a half, then dropping the other after you come up on the first. Are you on any medications? The first time I dropped I didn't have a bad day, it wasn't until the second time.

Make sure that you educate yourself all about the drug before taking it. And do NOT take it more than once a month! I enjoyed the first experience so much that I dropped again a few days later--bad idea.
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Old 12-18-2001, 04:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think E is shit. It's worth it the first 5 times then it just gets shitty. The next 2 days totally suck as far as depression (for me at least) and its not worth it. Personlly acid and shrooms are much better, but thats just my opinion and also i've done e over 40 times as well.
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Old 12-19-2001, 11:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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why the hell would you do it over 40 times if you don't even like it anymore?
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Old 12-30-2001, 02:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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GO TO DANCESAFE.COM AND GET U A TEST KIT ......IF YOU TAKE XTC AND ITS MDA OR MDMA YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A HANGOVER THE NEXT DAY BUT IF ITS CUT WITH .....SPEED EPHEDRINE CAFFINE DXM PMA SPECIAL K THEN YEAH YOU WOULD HAVE A HANG OVER PMA IS THE WORST POSSIBLE THING THEY COULD CUT THE PILLS WITH SO WATCH OUT AND NEVER BUY ANY PILLS SHAPED LIKE CLOVER THEY HAVE A VERY BAD REP
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Old 12-30-2001, 05:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah pills shaped like a clover are dxm. You'll still get fucked up, but it's not that great and nothing like rolling and cough syrup's cheaper.
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Old 12-30-2001, 12:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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not true, we have had many clovers around here that are mdma, i tested them, you cant label a pill as a certain "brand" different people use diff. stamps to press the pills with
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Old 12-30-2001, 01:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah, often bunk E is made to look like a notoriously reliable MDMA pill.
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Old 12-31-2001, 03:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I have to start by saying i'm a purest and don't like synthetics, but also that i'm a doc and i saw a PET scan (image that shows brain activity) of the brain of a young woman after about a year of intermittent ecstasy use...It looked like fucking swiss cheese!! She will never recover and whose knows what will happen down the line..Parkinson's, Alzheimers not to mention the terrible deppression she is dealing with from chronic serotonin imbalance. So please be careful with this shit, your body is a temple!
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Old 12-31-2001, 03:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Some of those brainscans were shown to be of a coma victim. I wouldn't trust any of them.
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Old 01-03-2002, 12:43 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Those brainscans were bullshit. It tested for brain activity and it was really too sensitive. MAPS.org offered $10,000 to the doctor to prove the brainscans and he didn't.
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Old 01-03-2002, 10:02 AM   #14 (permalink)
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puffmomma youre fucking way off base here. ive seen many of your guidance posts and you seem to be helpful and caring, but in this case youre just spreading misinformation and the added drama is unnecessary. don't go saying that you saw a PET scan of a young woman.. i think we ALL saw those same images and it has been shown repeatedly that the data they presented was greatly flawed and misrepresented. i cant see the minds of my friends who have rolled well over 100 times in the past 3 years, but i see their daily lives and i see no differences whatsoever from their ecstasy use. of 4 or 5 that i can think, their 'nextday' symptons vary greatly, but that is about the only time they feel any lingering effects of the pills.

one more time, people please post intelligent information in this forum.. stuff you saw on 20/20, hardcopy, DARE, or the freeforall board does not necessarily constitute intelligent.
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Old 01-04-2002, 02:05 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Do you guys really believe there have only been a few PET tests, and that all of them are available to you over the net? I can't say either way if E is truly as dangerous as some make it out to be, but theres no way of knowing, and you've only brushed on some of the short term effects. Sure, maybe if its pure you won't be depressed the next day, but do you ever wonder what chemical changes are actually taking place???
Sputnik, its interesting none of your friends have changed. I know friends who have become so slow at processing thoughts and simple actions as a result of excessive E. A boy I know fell to his knees in tears just sobbing "why did I do it to myself?" Sure maybe it wasn't all pure, and he did do a SHITLOAD. Hes just another example of how variated peoples reactions can be.
I've seen specials on TLC about the subject and they showed these brain tests as well. Maybe the machine was too sensitive but this girls brain was acting very awkwardly. And they did her mother on the same settings so she coud compare. Puffmommas right. Swisscheese.
I'm not trying to say if you do E once you'll end up like this. I've done E 4 or 5 times and most of the time I had a blast. But even though chances come up all the time I won't be doing E any time soon, if ever again because of the known (or unknown, whats the difference?) dangers.
E goes to the place in your brain that controls seratonin and allows more to be released while you're high. Seratonin is the happiness drug. Yeah!!! Completely happy. I noticed after doing E that I felt kinda numb. Like bad things would happen and I'd go "oops, oh well." and something great would happen to me and I'd go "yeehaw." I couldn't even laugh out loud anymore, everything stayed inside.
There are people that claim that by using E they somehow caused the seratonin control thing to stop working right, and no matter what they couldn't get happy. Not E happy, but even normal everyday "life is good" happy. For years. no happy. Just decide if its worth it to you.

But always know, weed will be here for you if you decide not to go there. peace-canni
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Old 01-04-2002, 12:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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In all honesty they DON'T know enough about E and its effects in might cause brain damage might not it might seriously fuck your body up it might not. But people are willing to take that risk and maybe the prize is worth the price, who are we to judge. I gotta say thou its gonna be scary cause alotta fucking people have taken e ALOT and if they find out that E causes some type of disorder theres gonna be alotta fucked up people running around. Then again it might be as safe as marijuana, we all shall find out eventually. I'd also like to point out our governments stupidity of not putting E on schedule 2 instead of 1 so that they coulda been legally testing the shit for 15 years and know what it does to us, but who cares about the youth they prove time and time again that they don't, thou they say the do which is always to disguise some hidden agenda.
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Old 01-04-2002, 01:51 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i dont agree with you at all cannimoon, in directly linking your friends problems with their ecstasy usage. if they are taking lots and lots of ecstasy, it probably points to other problems in their life that they arent up to task on or whatever.. drugs arent going to solve those problems longterm, so someone starts munching pills like mad and their friends shy away and the person feels more alone and finally because its the only way to get people to look at them better again, in desperation they blame the pills for their problems. its not all conscious like this, but thats how i see it. drugs are not an inherent evil..i believe the stigma attached to them is majorly responsible for the paranoia, the stress, the rebellion, the burnout, or whatever else you want to associate with them. keep this in mind when looking at the effects on people. our psyche is very powerful in controlling how we feel subconsciously.. the humanized contexts of our actions play a great role in changing how one reacts to a certain situation.

sorry to be blunt, i dont mean to label your friends as weak-minded individuals, but maybe you need to consider things with fewer boundaries.
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extacy puts holes in your brain. oprah told me this and i trust her more then erowid or any other site. i mean if erowid was so smart they would have there own TV show too, right?
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Sputnik- you're right in saying there are many many elements to the mind and simply blaming a persons depression, slowness, or whatever on E is a huge assumption. I agree that this boy had problems with depression before he ever took E, but never anything too extreme, and he was very intelligent.
What I also failed to mention was the in depth conversations I had with him after he took E weekly for a year. He said it was totally fine until he rolled once and then immediately after, felt he had been alterred permanently. He could pinpoint one trip in particular, in which he took a pill of very very strong E. He believes it was pure.After that time he felt dulled and weird. His mind was a jumble and he could no longer focus on a particular thought, everything just swirled around and made him dizzy. Depression is one thing, easily sparked in many people, but to actually lose abilities in your mind.To go from a genius thinker to someone who struggles over very subtle problems, and who was once very outgoing and witty and now you can find sitting silent in a corner baffled by his fingernails, as unaware as a child. Its just scary. Nothing that traumatic ever happened to him that might cause this behavioral 180. But you're right, who the hell really knows?

my advice is this, if you're so intrigued, and so excited about doing E, do it once. Experience that feeling of complete joy and utter bliss. After that, use the experience as a reference point, the time you were so happy, maybe your happiest. Then try and match it....sober. This is what I am trying to do, anyways. Sometimes I feel I get close by meditating, taking walks by myself, listening to great music, singing, swimming, rowing, being with a loved one, theres a million ways. And I'm pretty sure they are a lot safer than taking your happiness in pill form. Just be safe, -canni
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[quote]Originally posted by cannibusmoon:
he took E weekly for a year. <hr></blockquote>

wait, wait. stop right there. you just threw your whole fucking argument out the window. now please fuck off. god people like you make me sick. oh look at me, im going to do one drug, BUT ANOTHER DRUG IS EVIL!!! IT RUINS MINDS!!!!!! oh yeah, and what do you mean by "pure"? you think all the heroin, coke, and speed is what causes damage? but "pure" E might be safe or something?
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