muscle relaxers vs. pain killers

Richard539821 · 07-09-2003, 08:45 PM

Can someone please tell me what the difference is? I've had pain killers but never muscle relaxers. (i've had valium but that's more of a tranq)

Are the effects the same?

derek for real · 07-09-2003, 09:41 PM

mabey muscle relaxers are to lossen tight muscles that or to calm muscles to convince them to come out of there shells so we can eat them (any one get it?)

TheWhite50Cent · 07-09-2003, 11:49 PM

[quote]Originally posted by derek for real:
mabey muscle relaxers are to lossen tight muscles that or to calm muscles to convince them to come out of there shells so we can eat them (any one get it?)<hr></blockquote>

mussels are cool man, very unfunny

wanderlust · 07-10-2003, 01:57 AM

i'm stoned as a bitch and for some reason derek i found that to be hilarious

derek for real · 07-10-2003, 09:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Harry Pothead:


mussels are cool man, very unfunny<hr></blockquote>

what does that mean there cool does that mean you dont eat em and protect them from being eaten? i mean sure there cool if you mean they taste good.

derek for real · 07-10-2003, 09:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by wanderlust:
i'm stoned as a bitch and for some reason derek i found that to be hilarious<hr></blockquote>

im glad i could make someone laugh

Lions & Christians (PB) · 07-10-2003, 10:00 AM

what are a couple muscle relaxers (pill names)... To tell you the truth I don't know if I ever tried them.

I've tried several pain killers, but I can't seem to be able to think of one muscle relaxer... infact I'm kinda of wondering if there is a difference...

is there?

peaceandlovejojo · 07-10-2003, 10:37 AM

Can't tell you the difference, because I do not know.. But I can say I was prescribed a muscle relaxer for 3 years.. It was called Flexeril.. 10mgs.. good stuff too!! It did just what the name implies. relaxed the hell out of my muscles.. Doesnt so much knock you out like some pain killers can.. great for back spasams, tmj, but not so great for headaches.

Tiny Tim · 07-10-2003, 10:44 AM

they might relax yer weiner

jeepster1013 · 07-10-2003, 10:53 AM

My experiences with flexeril are much diff. than jojo I crushed up to flexeril 10mgs and snorted them, (big mistake they were the most painfull thing I have insulfated

) and ate a third I then hit my H2O bong a few times and by the time the pills hit I was so out of it i couldnt hold my head up and just kinda went comatose on my bed till I woke up the next day.

I have never gotten sleepy or anything from painkillers, with the exception of oscars they made me sleepy.

funky_unkle · 07-11-2003, 02:48 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Richard539821:
Can someone please tell me what the difference is? I've had pain killers but never muscle relaxers. (i've had valium but that's more of a tranq)

Are the effects the same?<hr></blockquote>

I suppose by painkillers you mean opioids. If I'm not mistaken, and my own experience faulty, muscle relaxation is one the (desired) effects you get from opioids.
Diazepam (valium) is a muscle relaxant, and used as such, although it's mostly used as an anxiolytic. Some of the "-zepam"s (flunitrazepam, lorazepam etc) are supposed to be pure muscle relaxants, without being sedating etc. Valium and Rohypnol (dia- and flunitrazepam) are probably the most useful for "recreational" purposes.
Bevare of the addiction potential though.

funky_unkle · 07-11-2003, 02:51 PM

I guess I didn't really answer your question. Check <a href="http://www.erowid.org" target="_blank">www. erowid.org</a> for general and spesific info on both opioids and -zepams, though I think they're a little thin on the valiumesqe trip reports.

Ghost_man · 07-11-2003, 05:57 PM

I think the more interesting forum would have been, Muscle Relaxers vs Pain killers, which are better?

mystichaze · 07-11-2003, 05:57 PM

soma 350mgs are muscle relaxers I get them for fibromyalgia they dont really kill pain but they are worth trying if you come across them. Cant really compare them to pain killers

07-11-2003, 06:57 PM

Lycaeum is much better for specific info about specific drugs, imo.

I disagree with you on the benzo's though-ativan/lorazepam is DEF not purely a physical drug. nuh-uh. I could apply this to most benzo's.

somas-yeah. eat like 3. They seem to be mildly hallucinogenic from some experiences i've had with them- looking at people's faces and such-not psychadelic at all tho. If anything visual is produced, it would probably be more along the lines of ambien. def muscle relaxation qualities tho. I dunno', this is just babble, far too much weed has been consumed for an effective discussion on my part. yum. 2 grams fried in buttah and put on toast. delish. what the hell was the point of all this? buh.

Human-yo · 07-13-2003, 08:52 AM

[quote]Originally posted by mystichaze:
soma 350mgs are muscle relaxers I get them for fibromyalgia they dont really kill pain but they are worth trying if you come across them. Cant really compare them to pain killers<hr></blockquote>

you wouldn't say you were telling the truth or not, but maybe you will. The truth is, you really don't have fibermyalgia, do you? Is it an excuse to collect from disabilities and get pills? or maybe only one of the two. I really feel like being an ass I guess, but I think fibermyalgia might be bullshit.

07-13-2003, 09:03 AM

nope, real disease.

Human-yo · 07-15-2003, 07:42 AM

wait, did you say really fake disease?

07-09-2003, 08:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Richard539821 Old School Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas (south) Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	muscle relaxers vs. pain killers Can someone please tell me what the difference is? I've had pain killers but never muscle relaxers. (i've had valium but that's more of a tranq) Are the effects the same?

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derek for real Old School Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: here there and everywhere Posts: 3,214 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	mabey muscle relaxers are to lossen tight muscles that or to calm muscles to convince them to come out of there shells so we can eat them (any one get it?) __________________ "once youve locked yourself into a serious drug collection the tendency is to push it as far as you can..." - hunter s. thompson ~~~~~~~~...You are me and i am you, i will always be with you...~~~~~~~~IAmUsWeYouMe~~~~~~~~ viva lets set a record

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TheWhite50Cent Decade Yahookan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere Posts: 7,045 Thanks: 1,669 Thanked 1,695 Times in 967 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by derek for real: <strong>mabey muscle relaxers are to lossen tight muscles that or to calm muscles to convince them to come out of there shells so we can eat them (any one get it?)</strong><hr></blockquote> mussels are cool man, very unfunny __________________ If one man kills a hundred men, and another man masters himself, the second man is the much greater warrior. -Buddha When you transform your mind, everything you experience is transformed. -Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.

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derek for real Old School Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: here there and everywhere Posts: 3,214 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Harry Pothead: <strong> mussels are cool man, very unfunny</strong><hr></blockquote> what does that mean there cool does that mean you dont eat em and protect them from being eaten? i mean sure there cool if you mean they taste good. __________________ "once youve locked yourself into a serious drug collection the tendency is to push it as far as you can..." - hunter s. thompson ~~~~~~~~...You are me and i am you, i will always be with you...~~~~~~~~IAmUsWeYouMe~~~~~~~~ viva lets set a record

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derek for real Old School Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: here there and everywhere Posts: 3,214 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by wanderlust: <strong>i'm stoned as a bitch and for some reason derek i found that to be hilarious</strong><hr></blockquote> im glad i could make someone laugh __________________ "once youve locked yourself into a serious drug collection the tendency is to push it as far as you can..." - hunter s. thompson ~~~~~~~~...You are me and i am you, i will always be with you...~~~~~~~~IAmUsWeYouMe~~~~~~~~ viva lets set a record

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wanderlust Decade Yahookan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: various places in CO Posts: 1,405 Thanks: 80 Thanked 60 Times in 33 Posts	i'm stoned as a bitch and for some reason derek i found that to be hilarious

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Lions & Christians (PB) former junky turned junky Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: evidently, here. Posts: 5,738 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 5 Posts	what are a couple muscle relaxers (pill names)... To tell you the truth I don't know if I ever tried them. I've tried several pain killers, but I can't seem to be able to think of one muscle relaxer... infact I'm kinda of wondering if there is a difference... is there? __________________ The most dangerous drug on this planet has to be oxygen. A gateway drug to say the least, further more people use without even consideration, not consenting to moderation in the least, and dont even get me started on the withdrawels. the goal of alchemy is to turn lead into gold. to take a substance and combine it with another substance that makes it more than it's origenal worth. in this sense, you really need to start making bronze statues of your pharmacist or local chemist, for they have made gods own medicine, morphine, and in contrast, a shiney rock doesnt seem to compete.

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peaceandlovejojo Mrs. BUDFORCE :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In my own little world Posts: 915 Thanks: 83 Thanked 284 Times in 132 Posts	Can't tell you the difference, because I do not know.. But I can say I was prescribed a muscle relaxer for 3 years.. It was called Flexeril.. 10mgs.. good stuff too!! It did just what the name implies. relaxed the hell out of my muscles.. Doesnt so much knock you out like some pain killers can.. great for back spasams, tmj, but not so great for headaches. __________________ "C" is for Cannabis and Cookie is for meeeeeeee... I vow to spend the rest of my life, trying to disprove the "can't overdose on weed" therory.

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Tiny Tim Admministrator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,240 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	they might relax yer weiner __________________ Merely proof that in a group of blind men, the one-eyed man is King.

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jeepster1013 Old School Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: wv Posts: 1,262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	My experiences with flexeril are much diff. than jojo I crushed up to flexeril 10mgs and snorted them, (big mistake they were the most painfull thing I have insulfated ) and ate a third I then hit my H2O bong a few times and by the time the pills hit I was so out of it i couldnt hold my head up and just kinda went comatose on my bed till I woke up the next day. I have never gotten sleepy or anything from painkillers, with the exception of oscars they made me sleepy. __________________ DOING MY PART TO PISS PEOPLE OFF SINCE 1863. If women did not have pussy's the ditches would be full of them. I'll bet I can trip you and dick you, before you can throw me and blow me.

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funky_unkle free Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ) Posts: 1,706 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	[quote]Originally posted by Richard539821: <strong>Can someone please tell me what the difference is? I've had pain killers but never muscle relaxers. (i've had valium but that's more of a tranq) Are the effects the same?</strong><hr></blockquote> I suppose by painkillers you mean opioids. If I'm not mistaken, and my own experience faulty, muscle relaxation is one the (desired) effects you get from opioids. Diazepam (valium) is a muscle relaxant, and used as such, although it's mostly used as an anxiolytic. Some of the "-zepam"s (flunitrazepam, lorazepam etc) are supposed to be pure muscle relaxants, without being sedating etc. Valium and Rohypnol (dia- and flunitrazepam) are probably the most useful for "recreational" purposes. Bevare of the addiction potential though. __________________ A communist officer told a Christian he was beating, "I am almighty, as you suppose your God to be. I can kill you." The Christian answered, "The power is all on my side. I can love you while you torture me to death."

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funky_unkle free Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ) Posts: 1,706 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I guess I didn't really answer your question. Check <a href="http://www.erowid.org" target="_blank">www. erowid.org</a> for general and spesific info on both opioids and -zepams, though I think they're a little thin on the valiumesqe trip reports. __________________ A communist officer told a Christian he was beating, "I am almighty, as you suppose your God to be. I can kill you." The Christian answered, "The power is all on my side. I can love you while you torture me to death."

07-11-2003, 05:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ghost_man Old School Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think the more interesting forum would have been, Muscle Relaxers vs Pain killers, which are better?

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mystichaze Decade Yahookan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: southern cali Posts: 221 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	soma 350mgs are muscle relaxers I get them for fibromyalgia they dont really kill pain but they are worth trying if you come across them. Cant really compare them to pain killers

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Ellis D. Guest Posts: n/a	Lycaeum is much better for specific info about specific drugs, imo. I disagree with you on the benzo's though-ativan/lorazepam is DEF not purely a physical drug. nuh-uh. I could apply this to most benzo's. somas-yeah. eat like 3. They seem to be mildly hallucinogenic from some experiences i've had with them- looking at people's faces and such-not psychadelic at all tho. If anything visual is produced, it would probably be more along the lines of ambien. def muscle relaxation qualities tho. I dunno', this is just babble, far too much weed has been consumed for an effective discussion on my part. yum. 2 grams fried in buttah and put on toast. delish. what the hell was the point of all this? buh.

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07-13-2003, 08:52 AM	#16 (permalink)
Human-yo Posts: 32,562 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 5,739 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 78 Thanked 100 Times in 74 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by mystichaze: <strong>soma 350mgs are muscle relaxers I get them for fibromyalgia they dont really kill pain but they are worth trying if you come across them. Cant really compare them to pain killers</strong><hr></blockquote> you wouldn't say you were telling the truth or not, but maybe you will. The truth is, you really don't have fibermyalgia, do you? Is it an excuse to collect from disabilities and get pills? or maybe only one of the two. I really feel like being an ass I guess, but I think fibermyalgia might be bullshit. __________________ Love, Human Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

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Ellis D. Guest Posts: n/a	nope, real disease.

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Human-yo Posts: 32,562 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 5,739 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 78 Thanked 100 Times in 74 Posts	wait, did you say really fake disease? __________________ Love, Human Brought to you by Carl's Jr.