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Old 07-09-2003, 07:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Symptoms of schizophrenia may appear suddenly, or they may progress gradually. Symptoms are divided into two groups, positive and negative symptoms. Negative symptoms usually occur first and can be confused with other health problems such as depression or substance abuse. In fact, substance abuse often occurs before the symptoms of schizophrenia appear.

The following are the most common symptoms of schizophrenia.

Negative symptoms ( ? )(I thought they were all negative )

Problems with speech or disorganized speech, such as abruptly responding to questions or not being able to respond with enough information (for example, always giving a one-word reply to questions)
Inability to experience pleasure, which is very common in schizophrenia. The person can no longer enjoy activities that once brought them pleasure, such as playing golf or visiting with friends. This is also a symptom of depression.
Lack of emotion, which can lead to few friends or social contacts. The person has little facial expression, poor eye contact, and slowed speech.
Problems with job or school performance due to the inability to complete tasks or goals. The person loses motivation to succeed or accomplish goals.
Problems focusing or paying attention. The person has problems processing information, which leads to confusion or fragmented thoughts.
Positive symptoms

Hallucinations, which usually involve hearing voices, but can involve all the senses—seeing, tasting, touching, hearing, or smelling something that is not there
Delusions, often involving beliefs such as of being an important person (for example, the President of the United States) or being persecuted (for example, being chased by the CIA or by demons)
Confused thinking and speech that does not make any sense. The person has difficulty distinguishing outside reality from internal thoughts and doesn't know if what he or she is thinking is really occurring.
Bizarre or disorganized behavior, such as being overly excited, angry, or unresponsive to other people. This may also involve the way the person moves his or her body (for example, rocking back and forth or grimacing repeatedly).
Self-neglect, such as becoming isolated from other people, wearing dirty clothes, or neglecting their untidy, cluttered homes
Inappropriate emotions, such as smiling when speaking of sad topics or laughing for no reason
Negative symptoms can be difficult to treat and do not respond well to medications. Negative symptoms can also be disabling, because they last a long time and cause the person to lack motivation to perform daily tasks or relate to others.

Schizophrenia is accurately diagnosed when:

A person has at least two of the following symptoms in the active phase of the disorder, each having lasted for at least 1 month:



Disorganized speech

Grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior

Negative symptoms (no emotion, inability to experience pleasure, problems concentrating)

A person has problems functioning on the job or with other people.

Continuous signs of schizophrenia have been present for at least 6 months, with active phase symptoms being present for at least 1 month.

>>>>>Substance abuse or other mental health problems have been ruled out.<<<<<<

"Unusual" characteristics of schizophrenia

Some people with schizophrenia have unusual characteristics.

Some people with schizophrenia are not able to tell the difference between the right and left sides of their bodies. They also may not be able to tell what number is being traced in the palms of their hands.
Some people with schizophrenia have unusual eye movements, such as eye jerking, or may blink their eyes more often than is normal.

Some people with schizophrenia also have unusual characteristics that may be symptoms of their illness or other conditions that develop along with schizophrenia.

Other symptoms of schizophrenia depend on the type of schizophrenia:

Symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia

People with paranoid schizophrenia usually have many fears. Their fears usually come from misinterpretations of what is going on around them. For example, a person with paranoid schizophrenia may be afraid of someone who acts very nice. The person with schizophrenia may believe that the other person is trying to win trust only in order to take advantage.

Sometimes there is some basis for the fear. The person may remember a time when someone was nice but then stole medication or pressured him or her to have sex.

Sometimes extreme fear causes a person with schizophrenia to attack other people or destroy things.

Symptoms of catatonic schizophrenia

People with catatonic schizophrenia may have unusual habits or mannerisms. They may:

Sit or stand in unusual positions (posturing).
Allow another person to move their arms and legs into different positions (waxy flexibility).
Sit without moving for long periods of time (stupor).
Have episodes of extreme and purposeless activity (catatonic excitement).

Symptoms of disorganized schizophrenia

People with disorganized schizophrenia usually have disorganized speech and behavior.

Examples of disorganized speech include:

Making up words (neologisms). For example, the person may say, “I am going to the park to ride the wallywhoop.”
Rhyming all the words they say (clang speech). For example, “Deck the halls with boughs of holly, folly, polly, dolly, hello Dolly, want a lollipop?”
Saying sentences that make no sense to other people (word salad). For example, a person might say, “Give paper floor me school hop bus.”
Repeating exactly what someone else has said (echolalia) or has done (echopraxia).

Examples of disorganized behavior include:

Repeating the same activity (word or behavior) over and over again (perseveration).
Dressing oddly, such as wearing many sets of clothing one over the other or wearing hats, gloves, and heavy coats in the summer.
Doing things in public that are usually done only in private. For example, the person may urinate on a street corner.

Childhood schizophrenia

Childhood schizophrenia (schizophrenia in children younger than 15 years of age) is rare. Sometimes autism, depression, anxiety, or other rare conditions are confused with childhood schizophrenia.

In general, the condition develops slowly. The child usually starts by having problems in school, at home, and in social situations.

Children with schizophrenia often hear voices and other noises that other people do not hear (auditory hallucinations) and firmly believe something is true even when there is proof that it is false (delusion).
They may also:

Stray away from a topic or not make sense during a conversation (disorganized speech).
Develop unusual behaviors. For example, they may continually repeat a series of movements.
Not be able to show emotion (have flat affect), not speak (alogia), or not be able to start or continue a task without direction (avolition).
Childhood schizophrenia does not appear to be related to intelligence as children with schizophrenia have average intelligence. They usually do not have any other physical illnesses.

Treatment for childhood schizophrenia includes medication, counseling, and family support.

Other conditions with symptoms similar to schizophrenia

Certain situations can cause people who do not have schizophrenia to have the positive symptoms of schizophrenia, especially hallucinations. These symptoms usually occur because of a specific situation or event and disappear when the person gets treatment. Conditions that can cause hallucinations or other positive symptoms of schizophrenia include:

Substance abuse of either alcohol or drugs. Using illegal drugs, particularly phencyclidine hydrochloride (PCP), can cause symptoms of psychosis.
Bipolar disorder.
Depression that has features of psychosis.
Taking several prescription medications that interact with each other.
People who have the positive signs of schizophrenia need to be examined by a health professional. They may not have schizophrenia but may need treatment for another condition.

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Old 07-09-2003, 08:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good post. Really informative.

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Old 07-10-2003, 09:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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haha rev!!

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Old 07-10-2003, 09:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Holy shit when I read the topic name my initial answer was a skitzo .
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Old 07-11-2003, 03:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The Topic name implys that Multiple Personality disorder and Schizophrenia are the same. This is a common misconception.

To the contrary, schizophrenic people are very very very lonely people. Or at least all of the ones I know.

My mother has mild MP disorder, which you kind of get used too. She will just switch away sometimes when shes stressed out, and when you realize you just stop talking and wait. Then when she comes back you continue like nothing happens.

I myself sometime wonder if I am schizophrenic, but I try not to.
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Old 07-13-2003, 11:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i read through the post and i realized i do just about everything on there.....o well
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'Some' drugs 'can' induce 'some' Schizophrenic characteristics in 'some' people ?.....True.

That is why it (drug use) has to be ruled out (isolated) in a true diagnosis of 'that' (and some other) disorders.

The post is a compilation of facts/effects regarding Schizophrenia ,as they are practiced today in Psychiatry.

Any analogy one might make from reading the post ,to bipolar disorder ,or the extremely more difficult to diagnose (and often misdiagnosed ) , multiple personality disorder are ones own.

I became quite interested in the subject while a long term patient (of several misdiagnosed disorders ).

Tomorrow perhaps I'll post some of the drugs used to treat some of the many preceived 'mental disorders' ,how often they are so overprescribed (and why) ,and how truely ineffective they generally really are (and why).

............or ,perhaps one of you wizz kids will do it for me ,as I am old 'and' tired.

And perhaps a just little bit nuts too.
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Old 07-13-2003, 10:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Wow... it sounds like i have slight Schizophrenia. Then again maybe its just because i have diagnosed ADD and am depressed that i have some of the symptoms. Good thread man
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Old 07-13-2003, 10:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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You know, that text was fucking useless.

All it did was label a bunch of conditions that almost everyone has atleast one of.

These days everyone has to have "something wrong with them", and almost everyone is on medications of some sort.
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your making me paranoid fuckrag
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Have episodes of extreme and purposeless activity (catatonic excitement).

What is and extreme and purposeless activity?
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In summer school (for carreer and life management 20) last summer we had to learn about schizophrenia and we watched all these videos and this one girl said "I was afraid that communists were going to sneak under my door and steal my brain through my nose!"

Schizophrenia is some freaky ass shit
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It shows just how confused even the shrinks are.
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[quote]Originally posted by Don Escobar:
<strong>Have episodes of extreme and purposeless activity (catatonic excitement).

What is and extreme and purposeless activity?</strong><hr></blockquote>

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[quote]Originally posted by Antediluvian:
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It shows just how confused even the shrinks are.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The actual existence of "schizophrenia" shows more than the state of Shrinks, in my opinion.

It also shows the state of western humanity as a whole. We are almost like a bunch of creatures running around trying to analzye this world and ares as much as we can, to gain security from eliminating ignorance.

However, thats a contradiction what we are doing, because in reality the more and more we try to figure out "mental problems" and label them, the more and more we are going to realize that we all have them, which is going to create more insecurity and the use of medicines which don't truly benefit us.

Now granted, some people ARE truly insane and SHOULD be put on medication. These are the people who also don't belong driving cars, having jobs with much social interaction, etc. They are dangerous, and medication CAN help in some situations.

However, the average person (or should I say, the common man) like me, and almost everyone on this board (yes we are so much different, but we still can hold a normal train of though) does NOT need medications for problems like these.

Things like hallucinations, auditory distortions, paranoid and conspiracy thoughts are NOT a product of an insane mind. They can be caused by imbalances due to things like sleep problems, exercise problems, or they can be caused by traumatic events, or even just NORMAL day to day activity.

That does not make one schizophrenic, and if it does, then I'm afraid 90% of the population is schizophrenic. What then now, do we all get put on medication to make us think "normally"?

My point is that science, psychiatry, psychology, etc are all getting a little out of hand. Instead of helping humanity, they are causing more stress then needed. It's good to know how the mind functions, its WONDERFUL to truly understand it, but once you do, its not necessary to feed it medications to make it slow down so it can work the way YOU want it.

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