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Old 08-28-2003, 02:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wink Quote for you

Wish I had found this earlier. Could've emailed it around.

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

- Hermann Goering, April 18, 1946, while awaiting the Nuremberg trials.
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Old 08-28-2003, 04:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I came across that a few months ago...makes you think a bit
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Old 08-30-2003, 07:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's still a great quote to send out. It's even more powerful prior to the election to get people thinking about the assholes running this country.
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Old 08-31-2003, 09:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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sounds like what bush and his cronies do

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brings to mind the old saying..."if we dont learn from the past we are doomed to repeat it."

it's kind of sad that a nazi understood more about the war in iraq in 1946 than most americans do today.
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Old 09-04-2003, 09:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think it is a great quote, but I dont really think it applied to americans. Everyone who fought against Iraq did it 100% on their own will. They enlisted themselves in the army, and they were sent to war. They were all told of the risks, and did it anyways, because they are suicidal lunatic yokels who think that war is the answer. I would like to see America if the entire army was given a wake-up call and decided to throw down their weapons and quit.

Now the Iraqis, that is a different story. But still they aren't being forced to fight, but rather they think it's wrong for the US to invade their country and distroy their homes (they have a point).

But still, the quote still stands in that all the government needs to do to get these people to join the army/navy/air force is bring up patriotism, and make people think that it is the right way to go about things, and that it is neccessary.

God Damn the fucking Army.
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puffman...being from canada you probably dont understand just how much that quote applies to america around the time of the start of the war. american soldiers did choose to fight on their own free will, its true, but their decision stemmed from their desire to be patriotic and because they thought the war was completely necessary. exactly like the quote said.

"All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked" .

....this was shown in the government's attempts to connect saddam with al queda.

"denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger" sure this is hard to understand when you arent experiencing it first hand, but the vast majority of the people in this country were quick to label war protestors as nothing short of traitors. the media and government also would have you believe that if you werent rallying around cnn waiving "go usa" banners....that somehow news of your lack of support would reach the troops, cause them to lose morale, and as a result die.

"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders"

....this is the scariest, and yet most truthful, part of the quote. the fact that the government can get thousands upon thousands of people to voluntarily put their lives on the line to due its bidding was as true in 1939 as it is now (although on a much, much smaller scale.)

this quote bears more of a resemblance to the events of the last few months than anyone from outside america can begin to imagine. in fact...i think the last 4 or so sentences perfectly sums up how bush got america to go along with his war.
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It is reducing thousands of boys to CRIMINAL INSANITY.
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The marihuana weed, according to Mr. Anslinger, is grown, sold and USED in every State in the Union. He charges, and rightly, that this is not a responsibility of one State, but OF ALL — and of the Federal Government. American women, aroused to this DANGER, will GET ACTION.

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Anslinger read into U.S. Congressional testimony (without objection) stories about `coloreds' with big lips, luring white women with jazz music and marijuana.
If he had bothered to check, showed at least 65-75% of all murders in the U.S. were then—and still are—alcohol related.

"Marihuana Makes Fiends of Boys in 30 Days; Hasheesh Goads Users to Blood-Lust" create terror of the "killer weed from Mexico." Through his relentless disinformation campaign, Hearst is credited with bringing the word "marijuana" into the English language. In addition to fueling racist attitudes toward Hispanics, Hearst papers run articles about "marijuana-crazed negroes" raping white women and playing "voodoo-satanic" jazz music. Driven insane by marijuana, these blacks -- according to accounts in Hearst-owned newspapers -- dared to step on white men's shadows, look white people directly in the eye for more than three seconds, and even laugh out loud at white people.

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Anslinger read an account of two "Negro" students at the University of Minnesota doing this to a white coed "with the result of pregnancy." The Congressmen of 1937 gasped at this and at the fact that this drug seemingly caused white women to touch or even look at a "Negro."

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Marijuana does not lead to physical dependency, although some evidence indicates that the heavy, long-term users may develop a psychological dependence on the drug"

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"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

President Ronald Reagan, at the urging of then Vice President George Bush, appointed Carlton Turner as the White House Drug (czar) Advisor in 1981. Soon after Turner left office, Nancy Reagan recommended that no corporation be permitted to do business with the Federal government without having a urine purity policy in place to show their loyalty. Carlton Turner became a rich man in what has now become a huge growth industry: urine-testing.

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