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Old 02-10-2004, 12:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ebb n flow or drip hydro systems?

which would you prefer and why?
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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On the rare occassions I've done percy 'dro grows I like good old flood tables, clay pellets, one flood an hour, aerated res and tank.

Why? Simplicity. You can go away for week or two and leave it running with a big enough res.

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Old 02-10-2004, 03:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree, very simple system with superb results. Take care of the basics, use good genetics, and your home free.
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Old 02-10-2004, 05:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have grown using a flood and drain system before with excellent results. I am now using an aeroponics system and I have to say, the growth I'm seeing is unlike anything I've seen before. My res. is large and I can leave it alone for up to one week at a time. I guess I could go longer but I like to change the water every week. The downfall to an areoponics system is if you have a pump failure you only have about six hours before you will loose your plants. Therefore I keep a back up pump and try to check them every morning and evening. If I was unable to do this I would probably go back to a more simple system like a flood and drain or ebb and flow.
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Old 02-11-2004, 02:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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vedaponics works by drip only becuz its just slightly lower tech than flood and drain and was the easiest/simplest to make out of the materials at hand (either free or supercheap) but our setup isnt what id call ghetto-fabulous, more like shanty-town shiznit

the disadvantage is that the drippers are exposed to the light so they grow green algae beards that have to be cleaned off occasionally or else they get clogged. ive thought about all different ways to deal with that problem but all my ideas seem like more of a pain than just cleaning off the drippers now and then.
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Old 02-11-2004, 03:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally posted by v3d4
our setup isnt what id call ghetto-fabulous, more like shanty-town shiznit
*laughs so hard trimming flies everywhere*

Tease...



A glimpse here, a glimpse there...

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Old 03-05-2004, 07:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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a tease, am i?
well i never!

ok then ill tell you SS, and i trust you to not go blabbing to everybody how my secret system works

the vedaponic system is an example of the recovery system given here: http://www.simplyhydro.com/system.htm

the plants, either clones or seeds, are started in rockwool or peat pellets and kept under fluros untill they are ready to go into the vedaponicator9000 under the big light.

when ready, the plants are placed in 18oz plastic cups that have been liberally perforated with a soldering iron and filled with hydroton. these cups go into the vedaponicator which is nothing more than a covered aquaduct meant to channel water back to the reservoir.
a $30 submersible aquarium pump forces the nutrient solution through plastic hose to the drippers postioned over the hydroton cups. gravity takes the water back to the reservoir (large plastic bucket.) theres an airstone in there to disturb the surface of the water and a small fan blows across the top of the water to provide good gas exchange.
thats it.

now i have left out some details about our specific system but they dont matter. with the exception of the water and air pump and hose, the vedaponicator system can be built out of any storebought or found or liberated materials keeping costs low. variations include the use of plastic pvc pipe, wooden troughs or boxes lined with plastic sheet, or sections of rain-gutter which may have fallen (or accidentally pulled) off of a government building. the system can be made to be more or less NFT-like, without having to buy any of those long plastic boxes (NFT gallery) which are expensive, bulky and difficult to transport in a stealthy manner, and arent easily adaptable to other purposes.

vedaponics is better becuz:
this is among the simplest possible hydro systems and in my opinion has many advantages:
- the pump is always on, eliminating the need for an expensive specialized timer required by other systems. in a regular boaboabados hardware store all they have are appliance timers which only work in hour long intervals.
- the drip system doesnt require a powerful expensive pump, as most areoponic sprayers/jets need at least 40psi to work
-it can be very easily expanded or modified.
-it can be very easily dismantled or disguised.

i guess the main thing is that its beauty is in its simplicity and infinite adaptability- and the fact that even i can put it together and make it work, makes it in my opinion among the best all around general purpose hydro systems.
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*chuckles*

Now that's what we like. Tease them to the edge of their seat, squirming in anticipation, bursting for fulfilment....

....and *ahem* satisfies....

....and with a smile and ready rolled joint too.

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