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Old 12-27-2004, 03:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Effects of mobiles likely more damaging than those of marijuana

Long story so im just gonna post the link..

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Old 12-27-2004, 04:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Uh...this isnt actually fact. its just what this guy thinks.
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i know.. but it brings up some interesting points
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Here's the difference...

" of course I beg to differ where differing should otherwise be unthought of. I beg to differ... "

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No. This MUST be posted!

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Effects of mobiles likely more damaging than those of marijuana - [Science]
Submitted by scienott on 12/22/2004 10:22:53 AM

A lot of comparitive media studies I've been seeing lately are rather useless, so I decided to come up with one of my own wild analysis: Weed Vs Mobiles. A lot of you will say that there is no relevant connection between the two, and that reefer is not as important as yacking, but of course I beg to differ where differing should otherwise be unthought of. I beg to differ primarily because a popular fan of IRCspy, whose initials are DJB, thinks that all I care about is rationalizing the choice and right to consume pot. At the very least, I would like to sarcastically strengthen this stereotype [that pot users' lives revolve around pot]. My comparison between weed and cell phones is not much more out of line [than the mentioned stereotype].

Generally speaking, one would be doing lesser damage to themself by consuming marijuana, and enjoying a buzz, rather than if they were talking on their cell phone. Radio waves from mobile phones harm cells and damage DNA, according to a four-year European study. Nowhere in the history of marijuana research have scientists ever confirmed something as unappealing as this. In fact, a lot of effects of marijuana are beneficial - such as stress relief. Phones rarely relieve stress, and instead are usually an aid to stress.

Cells (not phones) exposed to high-frequency radio waves from mobiles had significantly more breaks in single and double-strand DNA. Much of the damage to genomes - the carrier of genes - could not be repaired and could lead to the development of "catastrophic" diseases such as cancer, the study claimed. This data gives us good reason to be skeptical of mobile phone usage.

I know what you're saying: "but scienott, people have to talk on the phone...they don't have to smoke dope". That's wonderful but let me move on. One can talk on their mobile while intoxicating themselves with pot's active ingredient, THC, creating a sort of double-whammy. Actually, come to think of it, pot users are so lazy and poor that they would never be able to comprehend the bother of a cell phone, so this is impossible; sorry for once again raising something of no significance.

There are so many human habits which put us at risk that it almost seems like a lost cause to prolong a life destined to be unhealthy anyway. Assuming violence is not involved, everyone in the end should decide for themselves what is likable and what is not (not some government/religion/other form of order). Some get off on smoking a joint, and some get off on bitching at someone for smoking a joint. My suggestion is that we at least enjoy ourselves while exposing and encouraging mutation unto our bodies, and find something we truely enjoy doing (which can include talking on your mobile, or bitching at someone for smoking a joint). I'm not here to 'bash' people who use a phone, nor those who are against pot for the wrong reasons...I'm here to mock parties who make statements that lack any thorough validity. This rant is symbolic of such rotten media. I apologize if this satirical side of IRCspy doesn't interest you, but if you've made it this far, I'd like to follow up on how people's emotions react to what sort of media coverage they would prefer to indulge in.

For all the anti-marijuana supporters: remind me what your real purpose is in protesting against pot? I can't really remember, but I think it's because the majority of you know very little about it. There are many other possibilities as to why people are divided on marijuna, but this is my queue to remind everyone of the lack of education there is about pot. At least with reefer, unlike a cell phone, you get a buzz on. How's that for some liberal education.

I'll leave you with this thought; studies were done on news readers/viewers, and almost every one of the people agreed that they would rather only see "their side of the story" in the news. They don't want to see opposing views...they want their own views to be verified and fed to them as if there is no difference left in our world. Sit on that while you complain about such inordinateness.

Not to forget my words about the U.S...Rest In Peace those who died in Iraq today...CNN is saying 22 deaths (14 of those being U.S. soldiers), and other sources say different - which is another part of media that is rotten - the inconsistencies. Apparently there were 72 wounded. Misinformation in news fucks people up, so I hope I've raped each and every one of your cynical minds, because this seems to be the latest trend, regardless of simple ways to avoid miscommunication.

To top it off, I would like to remind everyone that Donald H. Rumsfeld is a demon. This joke of a secretary used a machine to forge his signature on condolence papers which were sent to families of dead soldiers. There is nothing right about that, and no one should have mercy for a secretary of defense who can't sacrifice (maybe) a wrist cramp for his (lack of) doings. I'm sure he's a busy man, but I think his (lack of) effort is sick as shit.

seraphim: i would just like to add that this is an opinion not scientific fact so dont sell your mobile for a marijuana plant

scienott: i could have sworn this was scientific fact, hahaha...thanks for clearing that up seraphim - i almost duped everyone!
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I know what you're saying: "but scienott, people have to talk on the phone...they don't have to smoke dope". That's wonderful but let me move on.
Handles that situation like a champ.
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What a stupid fuck hey. Weed is way more important to me than my shitty mobile phone. I hate telephone calls aswell. Isn’t that over 50% of the world population have never made a telephone in their life? Tell those cunts that they NEED to use phones. Ah whatever, people slip bullshit out now and then, and stuff can look meaner in text. I hate it when people use that word.. DOPE.
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Old 12-27-2004, 11:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Uh...this isnt actually fact. its just what this guy thinks.
actually its scientific fact that cellphones casue brain tumors and its scientific fact that THC stops them from forming....and no thats not what i think THATS WHAT I KNOW and thats what publications like the New England Journal of Medecine state
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It wouldn’t be fact. There’s a bunch of people that think it causes tumors etc, there’s a bunch of people that don’t. If this was fact, they’d be protesting and a lot less users of mobiles. But we all know that mobile phone sales are continuing to rise.
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
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it is fact though....there are numerous studies coming out of the UK that have shown rats grow huge tumors when exposed to EM waves emmited by cell phones. There was one study that proved a person talking on a cell phone had totaly un natural brainwaves and had little or no hand eye cordination. When they moved the cellphone away to a distance of a foot, the brain wave activity would go back toward normal but wouldnt be at a normal state until the cellphone was fully turned off. too bad all the good studies and information coming out of the UK is no more. they are shredding all files that they feel the public would want access to, becasue as of Jan. 1, 2005 the public will have acces to almost all government files due to a Freedom if Information Act, so rahter then let the public know the truth the Brits are shredding everything.....
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i think the brains of rats and the brains of humans are a little bit fucking different dude. i hope you dont believe all the weed tests they've done on rats and monkeys aswell. that brainwave stuff shouldn't be too much to worry about, because television does that.
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actually its scientific fact that cellphones casue brain tumors and its scientific fact that THC stops them from forming....and no thats not what i think THATS WHAT I KNOW and thats what publications like the New England Journal of Medecine state
Ok, then lets see what the NEJM says about it...

oh yeah, they have never writen anything about the effects of THC vs. cell phones

Its like saying that when you are in an airplane the chances that you will be attacked by a shark are zero. What the fuck does one have to do with the other...nothing.

Show me where it says that THC stops tumors from forming. It dosen't.

This whole article has no fact in it whatsoever, it's just this one shmucks opinion. And a badly formed one at that. This guy is an idiot. There is zero scientific fact in the whole article.
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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i vote marijuana over cell phones

marijuana and tumors....

i bet there's something on that

i know there is for cell phones

but private/university gov funded study aint spending equally

then again we do well in surveys

piece had me on the floor

of course

i was fond of the Rumsfeld stuff
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Ok, then lets see what the NEJM says about it...

oh yeah, they have never writen anything about the effects of THC vs. cell phones

Its like saying that when you are in an airplane the chances that you will be attacked by a shark are zero. What the fuck does one have to do with the other...nothing.

Show me where it says that THC stops tumors from forming. It dosen't.

This whole article has no fact in it whatsoever, it's just this one shmucks opinion. And a badly formed one at that. This guy is an idiot. There is zero scientific fact in the whole article.

You are just an idiot.

harsh. thc can prevent things like cancer and tumour. i've read heaps of shit supporting this.
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Ok, then lets see what the NEJM says about it...

oh yeah, they have never writen anything about the effects of THC vs. cell phones

Its like saying that when you are in an airplane the chances that you will be attacked by a shark are zero. What the fuck does one have to do with the other...nothing.

Show me where it says that THC stops tumors from forming. It dosen't.

This whole article has no fact in it whatsoever, it's just this one shmucks opinion. And a badly formed one at that. This guy is an idiot. There is zero scientific fact in the whole article.

You are just an idiot.

I dont think hes saying that there is scientific proof of any of that stuff in the article itself.

I am not sure, but I have read enough different sources to believe that this is fact: Cell phones aid in causing brain tumors; THC helps stops some cancerous growth.

So this comparison makes sense, and its a good point to make for all those anti-pot people. Yeah give up your cell phone before you tell me that it should be illegal because its bad for me
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again electric you have no idea what you are talking about.and absolutly no grounds to call me an idiot.


no no study has been done comparing thc to cell phones but studies have been done on both. A) THC prevents brain tumors from forming becasue it stops the cancerous cells from forming.It stops MS tumors from forming and is one of the reasons a Cannabis Extract drug is now being aporoved by health canda for MS patients.
B) Cell phones cause tumors in ALL living things. Pitfal...DUDE...EM waves emiteed by cellphones have the same effect on the brains of rats as they do on humans or monkeys or elephants.


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http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6283 Cannabis extract shrinks brain tumours
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I retract my former comment however, I would like to state that the author of the original article in question uses no scientific research to valiate his claim that marijuana is better for you than cell phones.
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yeah one-of-the-few my man, any articles on the em wave stuff?
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Here ya go on the EM wave articles

Cell Phones Alter DNA and other related articles
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cheers man. you're trustworthy with your information, i love that about ya. i'm glad i don't use my mobile much. being that there's danger everywhere, i don't try and worry AT ALL. i just hope for good luck and kinda hope that fate exists. everything causes cancer etc ya know, so you can't worry about every single risk out there. danger is at every corner, especially in the world of FOOD!
any news on microwaves??
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