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Old 06-28-2005, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bush's Speech Tonight - the best of his career.

at least i think so.


definately a lot of things in iraq have gone RIGHT - the government of iraq is on track to follow every single benchmark they have promised....the terrorists are not stopping any progress from occuring...

now yes a lot has gone wrong too, but a war is never cut and dry or neat and clean.


regardless i think this speech will carry him thru till at least winter....
 
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Most. Transparent. Speech. Ever.

"Iraq... September 11... Iraq... September 11... Iraq... September 11... Iraq... September 11... "
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9/11 Commission Report what now? Oh yeah, that huge ass OFFICIAL book from the Government stating they had nothing to do with each other.

So tell me J-Wonder, who should I believe? The Government or....The Government? Both can't even get their stories correct.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4625215.stm

The US defence secretary told Fox News: "Insurgencies tend to go on five, six, eight, 10, 12 years.
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So tell me J-Wonder, who should I believe? The Government or....The Government? Both can't even get their stories correct.
Gotcha there.
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So tell me J-Wonder, who should I believe? The Government or....The Government? Both can't even get their stories correct.
You should believe me!
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i cant fucking believe the lies that people eat up.








on another note, did anyone watch the halliburton hearings on cspan? maybe taxpayers will care that theyre being fucked once they realize theyre getting their money stolen



and hey...cheneys still receiving checks from halliburton.
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The US defence secretary told Fox News: Insurgencies tend to go on five, six, eight, 10, 12 years
And Blair says Iraq remains on the brink of disaster, Gen. George Casey, says that the conflict in Iraq will not be settled on the battlefield, Gen. John Abizaid says the insurgency numbers are increasing etc fecking etc.

Bush is a dumb hand puppet and fat-arse Rove has completely lost the plot.
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i cant fucking believe the lies that people eat up.








on another note, did anyone watch the halliburton hearings on cspan? maybe taxpayers will care that theyre being fucked once they realize theyre getting their money stolen



and hey...cheneys still receiving checks from halliburton.
haha...everyone time i turn it on, i get to see parts of it i haven't seen yet.

endless corruption stories of managers and staff eating all the good food, while SOLDIERS are eating LIMITED SUPPLIES of EXPIRED food.



and guess who keeps getting reconstruction contracts?!!!!!!!!!

what the fuck?! how can someone explain this for me?
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good thread j...

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He really pounded the message home. The same vague message. Over and over. Multiple times during the speech. Sometimes simultaneously, for which I must give props. About how we are going to be doing things. Doing the things that are going to be done. Getting done all the things that you can now, truely see, are done. And looking back and forth and realize how much we've "done" in Iraq. I agree that we've "done" a lot.

I tried watching it. I took a big hit right when I decided to settle on NBC, channel 24, passing all the other stations, trying to find the one with the best color representation of how I thought the president would look like if he was a real boy, not a puppet. So I tried watching it right after taking a nice sweet hit of my cheeba that I saved from mowing lawns and I don't think the president knows that many words. Just the ones pertaining to resolve and freedom, people and peace.

It just doesn't do anything for me. That which I am perceiving, that is.
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Bush reflects American society; gullible, shallow, simple and oblivious.

He's the smily "everythings gonna' be jus' fine now!" Polly-Ana representation that people must see to feel secure that what we're actually doing is related to Freedom and more importantly, Retribution.

People want to think Iraq is legitimate because we need somewhere to direct our anger @ 9/11. And what better target than a delapitated country with lots of spare Oil? Who coincidentally, look just like the Evil Men that attacked our Free and Blessed Nation!

Bush represents what people want to believe to support anything so obviously malicious and transparent as the cause touts. This is Noble, this is REQUIRED if we don't want to repeat 9/11.

Yet, the very core of his belief and essence of the Word is to turn the other Cheek. Ironic, eh?
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why do i always feel like he's talking down to everyone like his shit doesn't stink?


clinton lied, no one died.
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"I Love the Leader"


in a brainwashed monotone chant.
I was just thinking about that on the walk back to my house right now.

The car I passed had a I STAND WITH BUSH on its window, amongst its "SURFERS FOR BUSH" and Christian Fish.

The support stickers are always such loud testaments to the level they truly believe this cause. It's always large lettering, Crying Eagles and "UNITED WE STAND." You know, the same cars you see cutting you off and giving you the finger...all you see is the yellow "support our troops" stickers against the H2's bumper.
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that's why he repeats certain words over and over in his speech.....he's using brainwashing techniques....you think?
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In my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda.
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hehe,

way to be brave and post you bush loving pussies (who obviously didnt post anything)....

bush has been 50 percent popular (read: 50 percent hated) for the last 5 years, now its down to like 45 and everyone thinks its some crazy revolution.

i was in the same mind state for about a week until i realized if we dont stick with the plan we're going to be up shits creek without a paddle.

we're not going to get rid of Bush in any less than 3 years....
Iraq will be much worse off if we leave before the Iraqi army can take over....
theres no point in any americans being stubbornly opposed to iraq NOW.....what are you opposed to ? a free iraq? or the lies that brought about its conception? if its the latter, then id advise you to REALIZE THAT CERTAIN THINGS HAVE OCCURED, GOING ON 2+ YEARS AGO, THEY CANNOT BE REVOKED< SO EITHER MOVE TO CANADA WHERE YOU CAN PAY HALF YOUR PAYCHECK FOR POOR PEOPLES HOSPITAL VISITS OR S T F U !!!!
 
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yea....so they had an international iraq tribunal the other day...id recommend watching it...get a feel for whats REALLY going on in iraq.



ill give you a hint....it rhymes with gloody benocide


and fo reedom or fanyone



just ubjugation and soppression









with that in mind, i support iraqis right to resist the occupation by any means necessary
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hehe,

way to be brave and post you bush loving pussies (who obviously didnt post anything)....
Or maybe they just aren't there...?

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bush has been 50 percent popular (read: 50 percent hated) for the last 5 years, now its down to like 45 and everyone thinks its some crazy revolution.
Actually, its 43....

Percent...

Which means 57% (what we call nowadays, the majority) are disagreeing. The same majority you had so much pride in when Bush won. Ironic, eh?
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That's quite a majority there right after the elections though. Let's hear it for the +/-3% the republican party had the the dems, and let's be proud.

A better idea would be to talk people into reality instead of an ideology.
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