Check out the music that I produce

BuzzFreak · 06-30-2005, 03:01 PM

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp...=285926&T=7520

Inside the blackhole is my trippiest song ever. guarenteed u will like it.

BuzzFreak · 07-01-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman_130

lol buy a guitar dude c'mon.

I own a seven string ibanez. ..)

B. · 07-02-2005, 03:57 AM

Gonna have a listen...

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Originally Posted by sandman_130

lol buy a guitar dude c'mon.

That is such an ignorant statement... why do people who play guitar think thay have more right to the term musician than anyone else??

Pharmacopeia · 07-02-2005, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by B.

That is such an ignorant statement... why do people who play guitar think thay have more right to the term musician than anyone else??

Because virtually any guitar riff > 99.9999999% of the world's electronica.

B. · 07-02-2005, 06:14 AM

Which automatically means EVERYTHING MUST be played on a guitar right???

And I am positive that there was music before the guitar was invented.. I am absolutely sure of this... so all you guitarists should go out an buy a violin right??

What I am getting at is music evolves, just cos something sounds like a guitar riff, or follows the same notation as something Jimmy Page once played like 20 odd years ago isn't a cue for all the worlds guitarists to jump on their high horses and start issuing lectures on the origins of music, cos contrary to what you guys believe guitarists DID NOT invent music and we
ALL have the right to create our own interpretations...

@ Buzzfreak, I am on a very old P.C and it is having difficulty opening your tracks on Acid planet

, will try again in a bit.

Pal · 07-02-2005, 08:21 AM

I don't really like techno, let alone "acid techno" (???), so this really wasn't my slice of pie. My suggestion is spend some money on a fancier mixing software, one that sounds cleaner, more professional, more accurate, and is just plain better than using MIDI files. I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I have a free program that I could do the same exact thing with if you give me a few hours.

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Originally Posted by B.

Which automatically means EVERYTHING MUST be played on a guitar right???

And I am positive that there was music before the guitar was invented.. I am absolutely sure of this... so all you guitarists should go out an buy a violin right??

What I am getting at is music evolves, just cos something sounds like a guitar riff, or follows the same notation as something Jimmy Page once played like 20 odd years ago isn't a cue for all the worlds guitarists to jump on their high horses and start issuing lectures on the origins of music, cos contrary to what you guys believe guitarists DID NOT invent music and we
ALL have the right to create our own interpretations...

@ Buzzfreak, I am on a very old P.C and it is having difficulty opening your tracks on Acid planet

, will try again in a bit.

You have a very strange grudge towards guitar players, and I believe I understood you correctly. I don't understand how you think guitarists believe they invented music, or how lectures are spoken in the name of Jimmy Page (care to elaborate?). It seems like there was some event that causes you to 1. dislike guitar players and 2. think these obscene thoughts... Like you witnessed someone murder a guy while playing guitar when you were 2. Anyway I think the main problem you have is associating every guitar player with these flaws (flaws which I've never even considered, let alone heard of before). The truth is, no matter how strong you think a stereotype is, it's not true for everyone. Anyway, if we were to put an ACCURATE stereotype on guitarists, it would most likely be a pot smoking, chill guy who just wants to jam and have fun. Not power hungry villains aimed to take over The Music.

Pharmacopeia · 07-02-2005, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by B.

Which automatically means EVERYTHING MUST be played on a guitar right???

And I am positive that there was music before the guitar was invented.. I am absolutely sure of this... so all you guitarists should go out an buy a violin right??

What I am getting at is music evolves, just cos something sounds like a guitar riff, or follows the same notation as something Jimmy Page once played like 20 odd years ago isn't a cue for all the worlds guitarists to jump on their high horses and start issuing lectures on the origins of music, cos contrary to what you guys believe guitarists DID NOT invent music and we
ALL have the right to create our own interpretations...

Who cares about evolution or who 'invented' music? Guitars have a better sound. And it doesn't take a lot of time or effort to make average electronica. That's why it's not respected -- most of it SUCKS.

Papercup · 07-04-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacopeia

Who cares about evolution or who 'invented' music? Guitars have a better sound. And it doesn't take a lot of time or effort to make average electronica. That's why it's not respected -- most of it SUCKS.

wanker alert...

this post only serves to make you look ignorant. Electronica may not be respected by you, but clubbers everywhere beg to differ. Good Electronica, despite what you say, does take alot of time, effort and certain skills to produce something of a good quality.

I'm not a major fan of Electronica, I don't spend my time listening to it, but that doesn't mean I dismiss it as a talentless genre. You need to be less narrow-minded.

Buzzfreak- I agree with what Pal said... its a good start and you should look into a more sophisticated software in order to refine the sound. Sounds good though

B. · 07-04-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pal

You have a very strange grudge towards guitar players, and I believe I understood you correctly. I don't understand how you think guitarists believe they invented music, or how lectures are spoken in the name of Jimmy Page (care to elaborate?). It seems like there was some event that causes you to 1. dislike guitar players and 2. think these obscene thoughts... Like you witnessed someone murder a guy while playing guitar when you were 2. Anyway I think the main problem you have is associating every guitar player with these flaws (flaws which I've never even considered, let alone heard of before). The truth is, no matter how strong you think a stereotype is, it's not true for everyone. Anyway, if we were to put an ACCURATE stereotype on guitarists, it would most likely be a pot smoking, chill guy who just wants to jam and have fun. Not power hungry villains aimed to take over The Music.

Mate, I have no grudge towards guitar players or any musician with an ounce of talent, regardless of their chosen discipline, my "anti" guitarist statement was just a reaction to this unbelievably ignorant comment....

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Originally Posted by sandman_130

lol buy a guitar dude c'mon.

You obviously did not understand me correctly, and I was only using Jimmy Page as an example because a lot of people look up to him, myself included, I worship Led Zep, probably why he was the first person to spring to mind.
I just do not like that comment made by sandman because it implies that unless you play guitar then you are a pathetic waste of time and do not deserve the name musician, which is utter bollocks!

Pal, I am not having a go at you but please read the full thread then you would understand my reaction in the correct context instead of accusing me of stereotyping guitarists, which I absolutely did not intend to do.

(care to elaborate?).

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Originally Posted by Me

(just because some (Mainstream) Electronica) follows the same notation as something Jimmy Page once played like 20 odd years ago isn't a cue for all the worlds guitarists to jump on their high horses

I don't understand how you think guitarists believe they invented music

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Originally Posted by Pharmacopeia

Because virtually any guitar riff > 99.9999999% of the world's electronica.

Again, I don't actually belive all guitarists think they invented music, just another reaction to an ignorant comment coming from someone with dubious knowledge of true electronica...

I honestly do not understand why these silly, misinformed comments irritate me so much, and apologies if my generalisation offends you, but if its ok for anti electro people to be ignorant towards my type of music then they are gonna get it right back, childish I know but hey...

B. · 07-04-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacopeia

Who cares about evolution or who 'invented' music? Guitars have a better sound. And it doesn't take a lot of time or effort to make average electronica..

Err, I do, it interests me, I like to know the origins of things you know instead of being totally ignorant to the world I have been born into.
Guitars are nice sounding but IMO are old hat and pretty much impossible to create anything original on which is why a lot of people make electronica.

Not everyone has the time and money to buy and learn how to play a guitar, and contrary to your misinformed little head, not everyone in the world shares your taste in music.

If you think electronica is so easy to create, then go ahead, knock me out big man, make me a track and prepare to be slated!

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Originally Posted by Pharmacopeia

That's why it's not respected -- most of it SUCKS.

Who are you to tell the world that electronica is not respected, go to Detroit, go to Berlin, listen to some proper electronica instead of forming an opinion based on listening to chart dance music, which I agree sucks big time..

Some recommendations - Matthew Dear, John Tejada, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Kenny Larkin to name but a few, you may not personally like them but if you say that this music is talentless, then you have no clue about what goes into producing music.

Pharmacopeia · 07-04-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Papercup

wanker alert...

this post only serves to make you look ignorant. Electronica may not be respected by you, but clubbers everywhere beg to differ. Good Electronica, despite what you say, does take alot of time, effort and certain skills to produce something of a good quality.

Yeah, hence why I said "most" of it SUCKS. Let's face it, MOST of the world's electronica does suck because it's so easy to produce -- everyone and their mother can (and seems to) play around in fruityloops and churn out some average beats.

I respect the hell out of good electronica. I'd even venture to say that guys like Simon Posford have more overall musical prowess than most of today's guitarists.

Hell, maybe I just think that music should be a physical extension of your soul. I have a hard time finding that kind of vibe from electronica. With piano, guitar, etc, there's a physical element; you need to train your muscles and hands just to be able to play. Electronica (again, for the most part) is a point and click learning process. And god damnit a live show with a band has way more energy than some guys with a couple laptops churning out samples. A DJ could go take a piss while playing a show and nobody would notice he was gone.

B. · 07-04-2005, 04:29 PM

Yes but guitar playing is also just a learning process, everyone and their mother can pick up a guitar and churn out some average chords, might not sound very good, bit like your average electronica.

All forms of music have good and bad elements, its up to people to decide what they like and dislike, but because you dislike summat doesnt give you the right to tell people who do that their music is basic and crappy, that is very insulting to people who take it seriously.

Philly (.Y.) · 07-04-2005, 04:33 PM

see i dont think that computer generated music is talentless, but its a different kind of tallent than playing an instrument
it doesnt require anywhere near as much musical talent as playing a guitar would

with a program like FruityLoops you can make fairly professional sounding techno with no previous experience or musical knowledge, in a matter of hours

i dont know about you, but i couldnt just pick up a guitar and instantly start playing songs, let alone making new ones
...that takes years of practice

pullmeunder · 07-04-2005, 04:36 PM

why does everyone always relate guitar to jimmy page, he was not that good, i think he is the most overrated guitarist of all time.

B. · 07-04-2005, 04:45 PM

Ok sorry about the jimmy page comment, he was the first person to pop into my head, I was listening to Led Zep 3 at the time!!!

I know being a good guitarist takes years of practice, but so does being a good Dj or a good techno producer, techno is a simpler form of music, part of its attraction in my opinion.

Like I said, anyone can make AVERAGE electro in FL, anyone can churn out AVERAGE chords on a guitar, it aint that hard to do the basics of any form of music given a little practice, but it takes dedication to get anywhere with anything.

Listen to a dj mix by Terence Parker and tell me anyone can get on decks and do the same, or listen to 'My Red Hot Car' by Squarepusher and tell me you could do better in Fruity given a couple of hours, shit just dont work like that..

FoTwenny · 07-04-2005, 06:21 PM

Don't be dissin on Fruity Loops, some people can make some bad ass shit in there.

Check out this track for instance, Concord Dawn - Morning Light.

Waves · 07-05-2005, 01:44 AM

its all about getting what you hear in your head onto record. who the fuck gives a shit what medium you use? would axis:bold as love be any worse if jimi had went through and done all the guitar and bass and shit on MIDI? no, a song is a song, a note is a note. Everything else is just icing.

Pharmacopeia · 07-05-2005, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by B.

Yes but guitar playing is also just a learning process, everyone and their mother can pick up a guitar and churn out some average chords, might not sound very good, bit like your average electronica.

All forms of music have good and bad elements, its up to people to decide what they like and dislike, but because you dislike summat doesnt give you the right to tell people who do that their music is basic and crappy, that is very insulting to people who take it seriously.

I already said I like a lot of electronica I'm just not blind to how easy it is to make it.

"with a program like FruityLoops you can make fairly professional sounding techno with no previous experience or musical knowledge, in a matter of hours"

Exactly. Some might even consider that a good thing.. I don't.

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Originally Posted by B.

If you think electronica is so easy to create, then go ahead, knock me out big man, make me a track and prepare to be slated!

Haha, I love this kind of response. "Well if it's so easy why aren't you doing it? blah blah" In case you couldn't tell from my replies in this thread -- ELECTRONICA BORES ME. I have absolutely no interest in throwing samples together.

Funny thing is, if you give most skilled guitarists a couple days with fruityloops, they'll probably be able to create better music than someone who doesn't know how to play the guitar or any other complex instrument.

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Originally Posted by B.

Guitars are nice sounding but IMO are old hat and pretty much impossible to create anything original on which is why a lot of people make electronica.

Wrong. Many bands are still experimenting with original guitar compositions using off-notes and such. Opeth comes to mind.

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Originally Posted by B.

Not everyone has the time and money to buy and learn how to play a guitar

You said it all right there. Enjoy your cheap and lazy music.

Ego Tripping · 07-05-2005, 08:49 AM

You cannot compare the two. Apples and oranges. Just as you have crappy electronica, there's also incredibly talented artists like Richard D. James (Aphex Twin), DnTel, Air, etc..

Good Charlotte uses guitars and they suck ass. Case closed.

edit - Oh, and so does Opeth, typical Crapcore. Ironic that you use them to justify your idea of 'talented' music.

CowMan · 07-05-2005, 09:57 AM

^word.

As a clubber i've learned to actually enjoy good techno/electronica. Great dance music.

But i have a respect for DJ's that comes from a hip-hop influenced background.

Anyone who dosent give other music a chance is only limiting their understanding of music. They have generally found something they like and won't be bothered to listen to anything but their guitar riffs or phat beats or bumpin techno.

There's room for all of it.
why be a douche bag over something so trivial?

06-30-2005, 03:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
BuzzFreak Old School Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 74 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Check out the music that I produce http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp...=285926&T=7520 Inside the blackhole is my trippiest song ever. guarenteed u will like it. __________________ "Chong out with your dong out" -BuzzFreak

07-02-2005, 06:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
B. Drexciyan Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 762 Thanks: 19 Thanked 85 Times in 66 Posts	Which automatically means EVERYTHING MUST be played on a guitar right??? And I am positive that there was music before the guitar was invented.. I am absolutely sure of this... so all you guitarists should go out an buy a violin right?? What I am getting at is music evolves, just cos something sounds like a guitar riff, or follows the same notation as something Jimmy Page once played like 20 odd years ago isn't a cue for all the worlds guitarists to jump on their high horses and start issuing lectures on the origins of music, cos contrary to what you guys believe guitarists DID NOT invent music and we ALL have the right to create our own interpretations... @ Buzzfreak, I am on a very old P.C and it is having difficulty opening your tracks on Acid planet , will try again in a bit. __________________ The Lizard-Man makes his living as a freak... Sound Cloud photos

07-04-2005, 04:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
B. Drexciyan Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 762 Thanks: 19 Thanked 85 Times in 66 Posts	Yes but guitar playing is also just a learning process, everyone and their mother can pick up a guitar and churn out some average chords, might not sound very good, bit like your average electronica. All forms of music have good and bad elements, its up to people to decide what they like and dislike, but because you dislike summat doesnt give you the right to tell people who do that their music is basic and crappy, that is very insulting to people who take it seriously. __________________ The Lizard-Man makes his living as a freak... Sound Cloud photos

07-04-2005, 04:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
B. Drexciyan Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 762 Thanks: 19 Thanked 85 Times in 66 Posts	Ok sorry about the jimmy page comment, he was the first person to pop into my head, I was listening to Led Zep 3 at the time!!! I know being a good guitarist takes years of practice, but so does being a good Dj or a good techno producer, techno is a simpler form of music, part of its attraction in my opinion. Like I said, anyone can make AVERAGE electro in FL, anyone can churn out AVERAGE chords on a guitar, it aint that hard to do the basics of any form of music given a little practice, but it takes dedication to get anywhere with anything. Listen to a dj mix by Terence Parker and tell me anyone can get on decks and do the same, or listen to 'My Red Hot Car' by Squarepusher and tell me you could do better in Fruity given a couple of hours, shit just dont work like that.. __________________ The Lizard-Man makes his living as a freak... Sound Cloud photos

07-04-2005, 06:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
FoTwenny Eats laughs Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Middle Earth/Narnia Posts: 2,336 Thanks: 1 Thanked 326 Times in 127 Posts	Don't be dissin on Fruity Loops, some people can make some bad ass shit in there. Check out this track for instance, Concord Dawn - Morning Light. __________________ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Check it __________________ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

07-04-2005, 04:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Philly (.Y.) Old School Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,479 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	see i dont think that computer generated music is talentless, but its a different kind of tallent than playing an instrument it doesnt require anywhere near as much musical talent as playing a guitar would with a program like FruityLoops you can make fairly professional sounding techno with no previous experience or musical knowledge, in a matter of hours i dont know about you, but i couldnt just pick up a guitar and instantly start playing songs, let alone making new ones ...that takes years of practice

07-04-2005, 04:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
pullmeunder Old School Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,540 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	why does everyone always relate guitar to jimmy page, he was not that good, i think he is the most overrated guitarist of all time.

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Waves Duderino Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: chiburbs Posts: 15,475 Thanks: 991 Thanked 4,021 Times in 2,219 Posts	its all about getting what you hear in your head onto record. who the fuck gives a shit what medium you use? would axis:bold as love be any worse if jimi had went through and done all the guitar and bass and shit on MIDI? no, a song is a song, a note is a note. Everything else is just icing.

07-05-2005, 08:49 AM	#19 (permalink)
Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,461 Thanks: 229 Thanked 657 Times in 438 Posts	You cannot compare the two. Apples and oranges. Just as you have crappy electronica, there's also incredibly talented artists like Richard D. James (Aphex Twin), DnTel, Air, etc.. Good Charlotte uses guitars and they suck ass. Case closed. edit - Oh, and so does Opeth, typical Crapcore. Ironic that you use them to justify your idea of 'talented' music. __________________ God appears, and God is light, To those poor souls who dwell in night; But does a human form display To those who dwell in realms of day.

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CowMan Just a friend Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the other side Posts: 2,385 Thanks: 42 Thanked 106 Times in 31 Posts	^word. As a clubber i've learned to actually enjoy good techno/electronica. Great dance music. But i have a respect for DJ's that comes from a hip-hop influenced background. Anyone who dosent give other music a chance is only limiting their understanding of music. They have generally found something they like and won't be bothered to listen to anything but their guitar riffs or phat beats or bumpin techno. There's room for all of it. why be a douche bag over something so trivial? __________________ He who hesitates is lost

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