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Old 01-29-2006, 05:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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cool post man. i hope scientists are researching this subject more.
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Old 01-29-2006, 05:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Is that directed towards me?
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Old 01-29-2006, 06:27 PM   #23 (permalink)
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My apologies, you must understand I have a particular distaste for the specifics sometimes, since I find they can convolute the big picture (which is in this post, that Pattern exists everywhere, down to the very actions that we might even call 'free will.'). No offense meant.
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cool post man. i hope scientists are researching this subject more.
Means little to me. Ancient Mystics already uncovered this long, long ago, no research required.
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ya they discovered that everything is connected, not how it is connected.
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Old 01-29-2006, 07:11 PM   #26 (permalink)
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And I don't mind the How, I just think we get so lost in the How we forget the Why.
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Who says there is a why?
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science. the universe has a beginning and will have an end.

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every action has energy behind it. to say there is no "why" behind existance is to say there can be an action with which there was no cause. like a glass of water that was poured upside down. we cant see the action of the pouring but we can see the water puddle on the ground. i think they call it "causality." there had to be a force that took the glass of water and poured it upside down, just like there had to be a force that created our universe.
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Occam's Razor, don't pose unnecessary pluralities. If something works perfectly without the notion of a why or a consciousness guiding it, then there’s no reason to postulate one. Science is not just making a bunch of random shit up and deciding to believe it.
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Who says there is a why?
Just you asking that question proves there is.

Think about it for a few Millenia, you'll get it eventually.
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What are you talking about? And don't say I just don't understand, or I just don't get "it".
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And I don't mind the How, I just think we get so lost in the How we forget the Why.
fuckin good post man. that brought me a smile. a very clever thinker you are.
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Occam's Razor, don't pose unnecessary pluralities. If something works perfectly without the notion of a why or a consciousness guiding it, then there’s no reason to postulate one. Science is not just making a bunch of random shit up and deciding to believe it.
but nothing works perfectly. we are nowhere near an understanding of how the universe works, let alone how it was created. I dont get your argument here. NOTHING works perfectly without a notion or consciousness guiding it. Thats causality.

You wake up to see a man lying on the floor with a knife in his back. The universe dictates, through linear time, that some force had to stick a knife in the mans back. Just like a force had to create the physical universe we now reside in. its not debatable. what science is now trying to discover is the "why." the "how" is only a part of the "why."
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What are you talking about? And don't say I just don't understand, or I just don't get "it".
You don't understand or 'get it.'
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fuckin good post man. that brought me a smile. a very clever thinker you are.
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Yay for Kiwi theories of the universe

I can't seem to make that compressing the speed of light by 34560 to get anywhere near the speed of sound though, but then I suck at maths.

Good post nonetheless, self-similarity is just everywhere when you start opening your eyes to it.
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You just twist and torture the numbers till they fit. It's easier then actually coming up with something intelligent.
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Old 01-31-2006, 12:09 PM   #38 (permalink)
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^howbout ya chill out there bud. we are all talking about something we really know nothing about.
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