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Old 02-08-2013, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Smile Locking down a trait

How do you know if you have successfully locked down a trait? Does is repeat generation after generation? Or is A specific trait locked down only for a few generations? If you introduce your next desired trait to your strain, does the previous trait become unlocked and run the risk of being lost in the breeding proccess?

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Old 02-08-2013, 01:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you can make some seeds which all (or most) of them produce plants with the trait you are interested in then you have what you want I guess.

How you go about this depends on a bunch of things.

Do you know about dominant and recessive genes and punnet squares?
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I am familiar with dominant and recessive genes. Punnet squares sounds familiar...

There is a gene that I have been unable to succesfully lock out. I think it might be a genetic mutation. In the center of the leaf appears two extra leafblades. I guess I could run with it and make it my trademark. The ducksfoot strain is recognizable by its unique leaf structure... perhaps these strange extra leafblades could work in my favor.
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What plants are you starting with?

Do they all show the extra two leaflets?

You definitely want to swat up on punnet squares.
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Wow... I got some serious work to do. I had no idea that a punnet square could be so useful. Thanks

The two leaflets is a reccessive trait... it pops up every now and then. It has been present for 3 generations now...
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Cannabis Botany by RC Clark and The Cannabis Breeder's Bible by Greg Green are good reading for this sort of thing.

Breeding isn't easy unless you can grow a fair few plants- the greater the numbers the better different crosses can be tested and understood.

Are you sure the trait is not susceptible to being triggered by environmental factors? This may have a bearing on your goals and the best steps to take.
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Its possible that it could be triggered by the environmet, but if this was the case wouldnt it show up more frequent? Last season only one exhibited this trait. Right now only one out of nearly 30 plants has exhibited these extra leaflets.

The only thing that I can think of is the giant street light I have in my backyard. I did some research, and it is a high pressure sodium light. It helps keep my plants in vegg mode. So I built a greenhouse and decided to take advantage of this street light. I usually vegg my plants until they are about 7 feet, then I flower them. Having built this greenhouse has made the flowering proccess a lot easier. I simply roll down an opaque black plastic over the greenhouse. - Do you think the light might be stressing them out? Thus triggering the "two extra leaflets" trait?
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Any pics of the leaflets?
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I can snap a few pics, but I have yet to figure out how to upload them. Is there a section in the forums that can hep me upload some pics?
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Not all leafs exhibit these 2 extra leaflets. This tree is about 4 months old...
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You know, I'd probably not worry about it too much.

Quality of smoke, yield, pest/mould resistance, stress resistance and so on are the important factors and the flavour too of course!

But if you have an idea of Mendelian inheritance it will probably help you achieve your aims in any case.

Mendel bred carrots I think.
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I think it was peas
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I looked it up, you're right.
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Its definetly a genetic mutation...
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