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myxomatosis · 04-04-2010, 10:38 AM

If that's the story you're going with...

Not really the place for this discussion so I'm not taking it any further but blaming a book or an album or even drugs for that matter for your coming close to offing yourself is pretty ludicrous. Even if you want to say they influenced you to do so it still comes down to you in the end.

Qui-Bong Jinn · 04-04-2010, 10:38 AM

lol kitch, just forget I said anything about his girlfriend. Xomatosis man, you just know everything...

cantSEEme · 04-04-2010, 10:44 AM

really tho, that whole argument that violent/depressing media makes ppl violent/depressed has been around since humans first started to write, and there is no concrete evidence to support that. it really does come down to yourself.

and s.a.j., im willing to bet the zanax is more of a reason than your books and cd's. that actually could alter your mindstate to the point of suicide.

SmokeaJoint · 04-04-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by myxomatosis

Even if you want to say they influenced you to do so it still comes down to you in the end.

I agree completely which is why I didn't do anything stupid. Blaming anything other than yourself is stupid. However, are you going to say that music, books, etc. can't influence moods? All I'm saying is they're a contributing factor

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Originally Posted by ©antSEEme

really tho, that whole argument that violent/depressing media makes ppl violent/depressed has been around since humans first started to write, and there is no concrete evidence to support that. it really does come down to yourself.

and s.a.j., im willing to bet the zanax is more of a reason than your books and cd's. that actually could alter your mindstate to the point of suicide.

I think the Zanax was a lot to blame also. Its no longer an issue, sorry I had to explain myself so much over an example.

Roach · 04-04-2010, 02:19 PM

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building up a lot of testosterone which helps fight depression.

so does releasing it

That's the angle I was going with.

Never really understood cutters tho, or body piercing for that matter. Both are levels of sadomasochism I never attained.

So like, "He's got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one" ?

Being stuck in a manipulative relationship, tho, I understand the best remedy is to run (not walk) to the nearest exit.

(that does not include trying to "carve" a new human out of the existing one.)

hope he figures this out for himself.

violentfemme00 · 04-04-2010, 07:21 PM

Well, I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents because I used to be a cutter, and i had a best friend who accidentally overdosed because of some shit a whore was talking.Whether or not it is due to teenage hormones, lack of weed, xanax, or whatever, if this kid is cutting himself at all, then I feel like he has the balls to kill himself. I can be the worlds biggest pussy about some stuff, like meeting people, but i was NEVER afraid to do damage to myself. Also, this chick thing is tricky. Yes, I am a girl, but admitedly not a HUGE fan of other girls...mostly because of bitches like this one. You can't bad mouth her, you will run him off and right to her. Try to get him to realize that she is not for him, without him realizing you are doing that. Ask him stuff like what do they have in common, what about her makes him happy, etc. If he can realize on his own, then it will be much better. He needs to know that he is awesome the way he is, weed smoking and all and if she doesnt like it..FUCK HER someone else will. And oh yeah, Xanax makes me wanna kill myself on a good day so he needs to stay away from it. I just lost my father, who raised me alone and was my best friend ever, and the xanax they gave me for my "anxiety/depression" made me want to die. Weed is what works for me, and obviously what works for him. you need to help him realize that if she cared about him, she would accept him.period. I'm sure this is prob. the wrong question to ask, but what kind of parents does he have? Not saying you should go to them..just curious. they may be making things worse too.

Qui-Bong Jinn · 04-08-2010, 02:28 PM

I've known his parents my whole life, they're good people, they wouldn't have anything to do with it. Last I talked to him, the dumbass got himself kicked out.

~1~ · 04-08-2010, 08:23 PM

exercise cures depression, you wanna help, find a couple of bikes and go for a nice ride a couple times a week.

Hell, roll a big fat joint and go for a ride!

I aint bullshittin' either man, go do it, go do anything outside in the sunshine and see how much fucking better you feel about life in a couple weeks.

And tell your friend to dump that bitch, fucking cunt is no help, what the fuck does someone in high school need to be fucking around with a relationship for anyway. Figure out how to live with yourself first.

**SageTree** · 04-08-2010, 11:59 PM

Thanks for being his friend man. It sounds like he really needs one. Firm love and compassion Brother!

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myxomatosis life is music Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: between a pair of headphones Posts: 3,917 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 934 Times in 597 Posts	If that's the story you're going with... Not really the place for this discussion so I'm not taking it any further but blaming a book or an album or even drugs for that matter for your coming close to offing yourself is pretty ludicrous. Even if you want to say they influenced you to do so it still comes down to you in the end. __________________ oh sometimes the blues is just a passing bird and why can't that always be tossing aside from your birches crown just enough dark to see how you're the light over me last.fm blog deal (updated 12/22/11)

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04-04-2010, 10:38 AM	#22 (permalink)
Qui-Bong Jinn Jedi High Council Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 2,135 Thanks: 911 Thanked 501 Times in 372 Posts	lol kitch, just forget I said anything about his girlfriend. Xomatosis man, you just know everything...

04-04-2010, 10:44 AM	#23 (permalink)
cantSEEme Cold School Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,019 Thanks: 152 Thanked 127 Times in 457 Posts	really tho, that whole argument that violent/depressing media makes ppl violent/depressed has been around since humans first started to write, and there is no concrete evidence to support that. it really does come down to yourself. and s.a.j., im willing to bet the zanax is more of a reason than your books and cd's. that actually could alter your mindstate to the point of suicide.

04-04-2010, 07:21 PM	#26 (permalink)
violentfemme00 YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents because I used to be a cutter, and i had a best friend who accidentally overdosed because of some shit a whore was talking.Whether or not it is due to teenage hormones, lack of weed, xanax, or whatever, if this kid is cutting himself at all, then I feel like he has the balls to kill himself. I can be the worlds biggest pussy about some stuff, like meeting people, but i was NEVER afraid to do damage to myself. Also, this chick thing is tricky. Yes, I am a girl, but admitedly not a HUGE fan of other girls...mostly because of bitches like this one. You can't bad mouth her, you will run him off and right to her. Try to get him to realize that she is not for him, without him realizing you are doing that. Ask him stuff like what do they have in common, what about her makes him happy, etc. If he can realize on his own, then it will be much better. He needs to know that he is awesome the way he is, weed smoking and all and if she doesnt like it..FUCK HER someone else will. And oh yeah, Xanax makes me wanna kill myself on a good day so he needs to stay away from it. I just lost my father, who raised me alone and was my best friend ever, and the xanax they gave me for my "anxiety/depression" made me want to die. Weed is what works for me, and obviously what works for him. you need to help him realize that if she cared about him, she would accept him.period. I'm sure this is prob. the wrong question to ask, but what kind of parents does he have? Not saying you should go to them..just curious. they may be making things worse too.

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Qui-Bong Jinn Jedi High Council Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 2,135 Thanks: 911 Thanked 501 Times in 372 Posts	I've known his parents my whole life, they're good people, they wouldn't have anything to do with it. Last I talked to him, the dumbass got himself kicked out.

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