vanilla

so i've been distributing various goods the last few months, when my girlfriend's cousin approached me about buying in bulk. i've gotten along great with him, despite his checkered past and what the family has told me about him, he's had a few stints in jail and whatnot. anyways, first bunch of times everything was fine, now a few weeks ago he was short on cash so i let him get off with a bit over 200$ to be paid at a later date.

a week after, i called him to see what was going on, he said he had the money but had some bills to pay and asked for another week, since he was in a bit of a jam. again, me not thinking twice, especially since im dating his cousin, wouldnt think he'd rip me off.

now, over a week after the last call, ive showed up to his house with his car in the driveway and rang the bell, no answer, and drove away and noticed someone upstairs peering through a curtain.

long story short, i know the guy is ducking me and i want that money, but if i escalate this any further i don't know what this psycho is going to do, because honestly if i piss him off he could really let loose.

do i let it slide, seeing as how im not hurting for money at all, or bide my time and think of someway to get it back?

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SageTree

I'd error on the side of letting it go, to keep it short and sweet.

Letting some one 'borrow' money, large or small, in my experience, has rarely went as the word 'borrowed' would imply... it's more akin to 'borrowing a cig' .....

Maybe some day there is that off hand chance that the person has a 'pack of smokes' , that is in this case, runs into some money.

Then it's tactical to ask for a 'smoke' or if you'd really like it back...

Considering it a donation might not be all bad either.

$200 bucks might be a LOT more to him that you, know what I mean?
You could be helping this dude eat essentially...

I think it helps me to consider the running total of things I've been given through out my life, and in that mind set... I owe LOTS of people, who gave and never expected in return, even though it's never just been cash in hand....

I don't think it'd be bad to remind dude or make up some payment plan if you want to hold him to his word.... but I totally agree that money is nothing to get hurt over.

Good luck deciding.

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HTAM

Hate the post not the Poster!!!!!!

1. You were repeatedly warned/advised by his family about this persons
character. You chose not to listen.

2. According to you, he was short on money and based on previous performance (which is NEVER any guarantee of future results) you elected to provide him with goods with nothing more a verbal commitment by him.

3. So a week goes by, and after not hearing from him, you call to find out what is going on, and decide to enjoy the story he's feeding you.
A. It's a story, because if he were genuine about it, he would of called and said 'Hey, I'll have things covered, I'll just call you in a week.'
B. It's a story because he never called you after you talked to him the first time. You also go on to say that you 'know' he's ducking you .

I believe you. You were scammed. Deny it, he can deny it, you can both have a 'Happy Dance' around the fire and call me a liar, but you were scammed.

4. Dismiss any connection between your girlfriend and him. This is your deal. If she chooses to involve herself in this, that's completely different than you saying anything to her about it. If you do say anything and this blows up, you can almost count on hearing, 'We'll, we tried to tell you.' You didn't start dating her because her cousin could assist you with distribution issues, and that shouldn't have anything to do with why you might break up with her.

Never fund anyone without being completely comfortable with the fact that you may never get any return. There should be a distinct timeline agreed upon, and when that day arrives, they either put money in your hand or they return whatever it is that they have left, and the money that makes up the difference. If the terms are 'when you have a few bucks just pay down on what you owe me' then you take whatever they offer when they offer it.

'I get paid first. It's not my responsibility to call you if something happens, so don't make me track you down. I don't want any stories about why you don't have my money or what happened to my shit. If you are not 100% absolutely clear about any of this, do not leave with what you have asked me to loan you, because that is MY money, and I don't support you.'

Nothing personal, just business.

SmokeaJoint

I say just show up a his place with a gun, kick his door down and get your fucking money.

I also am the guy whos always paranoid the cops are looking for him for similar reasons.

Pros n Cons, but if hes really a psycho, you gotta double that crazy to get results. How much is $200 worth to you? To me, thats a whole lotta money, enough to risk getting into some shit for. For you, maybe not?

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SageTree

um hmmmm.......


Yea, idk Vanilla, Maybe you should just burn down his house so that when he runs out you can shoot his dog in front of him and then make him beg for his life before you kill him and toss him back on the fire.......


But that's me.... maybe it's not worth it for you....



(read: SAJ.... you are crazy dude)

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farmergiles

I'd recommend having as little to do with him as possible in future irrespective of the outcome of said $200 debt.

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AlteredStateGrl

looks like you got yourself in a bit of a pickle, dick.

this is what i say.
you've made a huge, tiny mistake.

cut your losses and don't make these same mistakes again in the future.

also, stare down that motherfucker every time you see him...maybe give him the "i'm watching you focker" fingers followed by the "gun shooting, gun smoke blowing" fingers.

that'll teach him.

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Captain Cannabis

you are probably better off if this guy avoids you anyway

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Flamingnun

Consider it a $200 idiot tax.

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HTAM

Yes. In terms of the value of information, it only cost you $200.00.

It could of cost you so much more.

Clearly he doesn't care about your interests, and would like serve you up with no hesitation if it meant his ass would be left alone.

Remind him that he can always count on you, but you probably won't come through for him because he owes you dos hundo.

Rubix

ive lost money to an addict once, then a couple hundred to a wangster; lesson here is: only deal drugs on the internet.

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Qui-Bong Jinn

I don't fuck around with sketch bags, and I don't lend money to people I don't know extremely well. Lesson learned man, don't deal with sketch bags.

~1~

Now I'm not usually one to advocate violence but in this case I say go for it but know that once you knock the fuck out of him, with a bat, the two bills is the price of admission to his ass beating.

When you're done let him know that he's off the hook for the money, he don't owe nothin' else.


But...

He better use a wide berth next time you come around or it'll be more of the same since $200 worth of ass kicking'll go a long way in todays economy.



Sometimes you have to let folks walk on you a bit but they may as well do it with a bit of a limp.

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Geeno

Come on vanilla. You know how this goes.

I expect these kinda posts from some 15 yo n00b.

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tedkennedy

chalk it up as a loss and a lesson learned...

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vanilla

well i got a hold of the guy the other day, he gave me another sob story but actually just came back from dropping the money off in an envelope at my girlfriends. im even steven, and who knows, maybe you can trust an ex-con?

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SageTree

That is good news man.

I'll say that if you went into this questioning your safety and likelihood of getting paid back based on his record and others opinions and now you questioned 'that which you thought true' , that is pretty cool way to look with in, in general.

'Trust' here has two practical parts .....

1. physical safety

2. payment

I think you know the best answers since you have the truest 'taste' for all the information you've gathered...




But personally speaking, in my life I imagine* that I've been ripped off and hurt by way more people who weren't convicts or known black sheep and may even be the ones that said they were helping me or a friend.....


*(read: based on what I assume to be true)


Maybe next time just flip em a $20 and don't worry about it

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hairry_3

200.00 lesson for ya

Lloydy

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